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2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#1561 » by Vertical Limit » Fri Apr 18, 2025 3:11 am

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Were probably interested in Derozan again lol



hard to think that team had Halliburton and Fox....right?


Sabonis came out today and said they need a PG lol

Funny that he would say that.. because the idiots that run the Kings, who had a complete image overhaul the last couple years mostly due to Mike Brown and de’aaron fox.. decided to get rid of both mid season and that Sabonis was always the franchise player to build around,.

Guy looked as bad as Edey yesterday.. barely an effective player to build around..


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Post#1562 » by batterybro42 » Fri Apr 18, 2025 3:34 pm

jbsays wrote:Wade vs. Thompson

Come on man.... Wade's best years were playing next to past his prime Jermaine O'Neal, Udonis Haslem, Mario Chalmers, and Michael Beasley. Thompson spent his entire prime playing next to Curry and Green.

Hell take their first 8-9 years in to account (i.e. Wade's time prior to Lebron joining Heat). If they swapped places do you think the Warriors would have had more or less success with Wade on the Warriors instead of Thompson? If they swapped places do you think the Heat would have had more or less success with Thompson on the Heat instead of Wade? Do you see the Heat winning Finals with Thompson next to Shaq?


Aside from Kobe prime Wade is the closest thing this league has ever seen to Jordan. People who don’t understand this just never watched him play then look at his box scores and think the Big 3 era where Wade was already in decline and playing through pain that would have ended a lesser players career was the height of his ability.

Wade basically had what happened to Derrick Rose happen to him, but he was so unbelievably skilled he was still able to drain those knees and keep playing at an all star level. Wade has a top 5 bag in league history.

Before the knees started going and he had all his burst that guy could score whenever he wanted on packed paints and true bigs while getting almost all the defensive attention. I haven’t seen player carry a team as much as 06 Wade did to a title since it happened. It was unbelievable just straight iso ball, and mid range supremacy. If he doesn’t have the abdominal injury in 05 the Heat likely go back to back those years and I just wonder what that would have done to his legacy.

Early in their careers especially after the 06 finals Wade was considered to be better than LeBron, and frankly he was all you need to look at is their first finals appearance together, where Wade put forth ANOTHER top 5 finals performance of all time in a losing effort. We were an injury and LeBron not being ready for the moment away from Wade here with 5 rings matching Kobe.

What always bothers me is how people treat a lesser player like Allen Iverson in comparison
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Post#1563 » by Lennyzinho » Fri Apr 18, 2025 3:55 pm

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DBurks2818 wrote:I know this is more of an off-season thing, but I'm curious to see what kind of contract Davion Mitchell gets this off-season. Because I think it's unlikely he comes back merely on the QO.

Some comparisons:
  • TJ McConnell: 11mm/yr average
  • Pritchard: ~8mm/yr average (top-value contract and therefore unrealistic)
  • McBride: ~4mm/yr average (top-value contract and therefore unrealistic)
  • Conley/Paul: ~10mm/yr average
  • Clarkson: ~14mm/yr average
  • Cole Anthony: ~14mm/yr average
  • Gabe Vincent: ~11mm/yr average

So, with a realistic range of 10-14mm/yr for backup point guards, I'd love to see something like a 3yr/36mm deal for him (with no player options). That would be right down the middle and give both sides time to see if a new deal is needed down the road.

And then minimum deals for everyone else who will be retained, except Burks who probably deserves something like a 2yr/10-12mm deal if some other guys get cut or traded to open up space.

I'll try to comment on restructures and trades more in the off-season thread!


TBH I think if Miami makes the playoffs, it increases the likelihood that Davion's contract number becomes a little too pricey to lock in


Everyone's price that we would want to keep or extend, would go up with solid playoff performances.
Burks, davion for sure, maybe even jovic if we tried working out an extension and he played well although I think its very improbable that he'd play jovic over slo-mo in the playoffs after being out and missing the stretch where we started playing better.

Between that and also us losing our pick in a good draft with a small chance at a franchise player (top 4 12%), still prefer if we lost tonight. From a long term POV.

I'm incapable of watching a heat game and rooting for them to lose tho. The only reason I want us to win, is because I'm convinced Riley will max extend herro, and i really want to see what he does in the playoffs.

He has been mostly average at best or hurt every play off. If he can do to CLE a couple times and help us go to 6-7 games vs them, like what he did to CHI. He might actually deserve it. As he's still ascending. I really want to know what we have in herro because up to now he's just been this flashy fringe allstar type dude. And broke his hand two years ago and then last year completely overwhelmed by the eventual champs with no Jimmy and a weak roster outside of Bam and that's not a fair way to assess him.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#1564 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:13 pm

batterybro42 wrote:
jbsays wrote:Wade vs. Thompson

Come on man.... Wade's best years were playing next to past his prime Jermaine O'Neal, Udonis Haslem, Mario Chalmers, and Michael Beasley. Thompson spent his entire prime playing next to Curry and Green.

Hell take their first 8-9 years in to account (i.e. Wade's time prior to Lebron joining Heat). If they swapped places do you think the Warriors would have had more or less success with Wade on the Warriors instead of Thompson? If they swapped places do you think the Heat would have had more or less success with Thompson on the Heat instead of Wade? Do you see the Heat winning Finals with Thompson next to Shaq?


Aside from Kobe prime Wade is the closest thing this league has ever seen to Jordan. People who don’t understand this just never watched him play then look at his box scores and think the Big 3 era where Wade was already in decline and playing through pain that would have ended a lesser players career was the height of his ability.

Wade basically had what happened to Derrick Rose happen to him, but he was so unbelievably skilled he was still able to drain those knees and keep playing at an all star level. Wade has a top 5 bag in league history.

Before the knees started going and he had all his burst that guy could score whenever he wanted on packed paints and true bigs while getting almost all the defensive attention. I haven’t seen player carry a team as much as 06 Wade did to a title since it happened. It was unbelievable just straight iso ball, and mid range supremacy. If he doesn’t have the abdominal injury in 05 the Heat likely go back to back those years and I just wonder what that would have done to his legacy.

Early in their careers especially after the 06 finals Wade was considered to be better than LeBron, and frankly he was all you need to look at is their first finals appearance together, where Wade put forth ANOTHER top 5 finals performance of all time in a losing effort. We were an injury and LeBron not being ready for the moment away from Wade here with 5 rings matching Kobe.

What always bothers me is how people treat a lesser player like Allen Iverson in comparison


I agree, people always talk about guys like Rose Tmac Brandon roy Grant hill etc. as what if scenarios but if Wade has health and good knees he’s top 10 all time because he likely wins at least 1 more championship an MVP and FMVP while also pushing his longevity much further.

Wade is just never brought up in those what if convos because despite all the chronic knee injuries and the brutal 06-07 injuries he was still able to be top 20 ever
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#1565 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Apr 18, 2025 4:15 pm

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There’s no question where he wants to be and I know for a fact they’ve fallen in love with him. Hopefully we can work out something solid.

Offseason goals for him would be continue to polish the 3 ball, a massive improvement from the free throw line, and work on playmaking especially in 2 man scenarios with our bigs
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Post#1566 » by DayofMourning » Fri Apr 18, 2025 5:43 pm

According to Gambadoro (via Twitter), it’s “very unlikely” that the Rockets would be willing to give up Phoenix’s 2025 lottery pick in any deal for Durant. However, it’s possible that those future Suns draft assets could be part of any discussions between the two teams.


Very unlikely Miami would give up a first rounder this year for KD as well?
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Post#1567 » by Vertical Limit » Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:03 pm

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There’s no question where he wants to be and I know for a fact they’ve fallen in love with him. Hopefully we can work out something solid.

Offseason goals for him would be continue to polish the 3 ball, a massive improvement from the free throw line, and work on playmaking especially in 2 man scenarios with our bigs

The best team to get his three point percentage up is right here… Chris Quinn and Spoelstra has a history of developing players in that range.. his form is not that far off.. just an offseason with a few tweaks and i think we can get him at that 38%-40% range
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Post#1568 » by MartyConlonJr » Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:27 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:
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There’s no question where he wants to be and I know for a fact they’ve fallen in love with him. Hopefully we can work out something solid.

Offseason goals for him would be continue to polish the 3 ball, a massive improvement from the free throw line, and work on playmaking especially in 2 man scenarios with our bigs

The best team to get his three point percentage up is right here… Chris Quinn and Spoelstra has a history of developing players in that range.. his form is not that far off.. just an offseason with a few tweaks and i think we can get him at that 38%-40% range


Davion Mitchell is already averaging 38.2% 3PT FG over his last 2 seasons and 146 games. He was 36.1% last season in Sacramento, 35.9% in Toronto this season before his Heat stint of 44.7% pushed his total over the 38% line. He seems to shoot confidently and with decent form. Can always get better though and increase his volume while at it.
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Post#1569 » by Vertical Limit » Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:46 pm

Btw davion has showed a whole lot more ability than gabe vincent.. at the same price tag, he is worth it..
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Post#1570 » by eddieheatfan » Fri Apr 18, 2025 8:51 pm

Vertical Limit wrote:Btw davion has showed a whole lot more ability than gabe vincent.. at the same price tag, he is worth it..
yeaj i agree with this
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Post#1571 » by BringinThaHeat » Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:58 am

So Thunder just scored the 15th pick from us to complete the Jimmy trade?
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#1572 » by DBurks2818 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:43 am

BringinThaHeat wrote:So Thunder just scored the 15th pick from us to complete the Jimmy trade?


Yes. Now the doomsday scenario of owing unprotected firsts in 2026 & 2028 has been averted.
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Post#1573 » by Daffy » Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:46 am

Tell me I'm reading wrong. We completely loss the draft pick? The Jeremiah Fears dream is completely dead?
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Post#1574 » by Daffy » Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:46 am

How many tradeable picks do we have now?
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Post#1575 » by marson » Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:47 am

Daffy wrote:Tell me I'm reading wrong. We completely loss the draft pick? The Jeremiah Fears dream is completely dead?


You can look forward now to AJ Dybantsa next year. We own our pick.
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Post#1576 » by oreon » Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:49 am

marson wrote:
Daffy wrote:Tell me I'm reading wrong. We completely loss the draft pick? The Jeremiah Fears dream is completely dead?


You can look forward now to AJ Dybantsa next year. We own our pick.


I don't follow high school or college bbal. How is he as a prospect compared to Flagg ? Same tier or better/worse ?
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Post#1577 » by marson » Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:51 am

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Daffy wrote:Tell me I'm reading wrong. We completely loss the draft pick? The Jeremiah Fears dream is completely dead?


You can look forward now to AJ Dybantsa next year. We own our pick.


I don't follow high school or college bbal. How is he as a prospect compared to Flagg ? Same tier or better/worse ?


6'9" wing with a 6'11" wingspan and 8'10" standing reach

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9 

Post#1578 » by batterybro42 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:17 am

oreon wrote:
marson wrote:
Daffy wrote:Tell me I'm reading wrong. We completely loss the draft pick? The Jeremiah Fears dream is completely dead?


You can look forward now to AJ Dybantsa next year. We own our pick.


I don't follow high school or college bbal. How is he as a prospect compared to Flagg ? Same tier or better/worse ?


Better in my opinion
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Post#1579 » by DayofMourning » Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:20 am

Daffy wrote:Tell me I'm reading wrong. We completely loss the draft pick? The Jeremiah Fears dream is completely dead?


Its gone buddy!!

We getting Dru back next year anyway. Our PG play will be steady af.
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Post#1580 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:25 am

I had one request if we were going to screw ourselves and not get the pick and put pressure on the front office to build a contender as early as next season and it was to not play those fuxkin clowns in Boston. They managed that so I guess I can’t complain
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