2025 Draft thread

[bluejerseyjinx]

Lol the Hawks don't trade up in the 1st round. They've never done it. They're known to trade back. But they've never traded up in the 1st. I can promise you they definitely won't this year.

They also haven't met with Shedeur. They met with Milroe. But he's not in play for them at 18.

Teams are not looking to trade up. Because this is not the draft to do it. Everyone wants to accumulate more picks in the top 100. Which is the strength of the class. So, you're not going to see very many trades happen.

Yea the odds of teams trading up is not good. You never know though when it comes to drafting a QB.

I didn’t know that Seattle has never traded up before. That doesn’t mean they never will but I do agree that this is not the draft you want to trade up. I could see Cleveland and New York trying to trade up to get a QB (if they want that 5th year option).

The last time they made a significant trade up for a player was for Walter Jones (1997). That's how long it's been.

You're just not going to see trades happen this year.

Not even one? I mean there are some really stupid organizations out there.

[Cactus Jack]

Yea the odds of teams trading up is not good. You never know though when it comes to drafting a QB.

I didn’t know that Seattle has never traded up before. That doesn’t mean they never will but I do agree that this is not the draft you want to trade up. I could see Cleveland and New York trying to trade up to get a QB (if they want that 5th year option).

The last time they made a significant trade up for a player was for Walter Jones (1997). That's how long it's been.

You're just not going to see trades happen this year.

Not even one? I mean there are some really stupid organizations out there.

A team might trade up if Shedeur starts to fall. But for the most part teams don't want to move up this year. Everyone wants to move back & collect more picks on days 2 & 3. That's why you're going to see less trades occur. The value for trading back won't be there. So, teams will just stick & pick.

[bluejerseyjinx]

The last time they made a significant trade up for a player was for Walter Jones (1997). That's how long it's been.

You're just not going to see trades happen this year.

Not even one? I mean there are some really stupid organizations out there.

A team might trade up if Shedeur starts to fall. But for the most part teams don't want to move up this year. Everyone wants to move back & collect more picks on days 2 & 3. That's why you're going to see less trades occur. The value for trading back won't be there. So, teams will just stick & pick.

Not that I disagree with all your points here because I don't. I just have a feeling some teams are more desperate than they are letting on. I'm now seeing draft that the Chiefs will be moving up if Simmons and Banks get drafted before their pick.

[Mr B]

Lol the Hawks don't trade up in the 1st round. They've never done it. They're known to trade back. But they've never traded up in the 1st. I can promise you they definitely won't this year.

They also haven't met with Shedeur. They met with Milroe. But he's not in play for them at 18.

Teams are not looking to trade up. Because this is not the draft to do it. Everyone wants to accumulate more picks in the top 100. Which is the strength of the class. So, you're not going to see very many trades happen.

Yea the odds of teams trading up is not good. You never know though when it comes to drafting a QB.

I didn’t know that Seattle has never traded up before. That doesn’t mean they never will but I do agree that this is not the draft you want to trade up. I could see Cleveland and New York trying to trade up to get a QB (if they want that 5th year option).

The last time they made a significant trade up for a player was for Walter Jones (1997). That's how long it's been.

You're just not going to see trades happen this year.

We will definitely see a trade or two but we won’t see a lot of them. The trades will all be centered around the QB’s or if Jeanty makes it past the Raiders I could see Denver jumping in front of the Bears to draft him. The Bears are one of the teams rumored to be interested in Jeanty at 10. Or they could wait until pick 11 to trade up so that Dallas doesn’t draft Jeanty.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Yea the odds of teams trading up is not good. You never know though when it comes to drafting a QB.

I didn’t know that Seattle has never traded up before. That doesn’t mean they never will but I do agree that this is not the draft you want to trade up. I could see Cleveland and New York trying to trade up to get a QB (if they want that 5th year option).

The last time they made a significant trade up for a player was for Walter Jones (1997). That's how long it's been.

You're just not going to see trades happen this year.

We will definitely see a trade or two but we won’t see a lot of them. The trades will all be centered around the QB’s or if Jeanty makes it past the Raiders I could see Denver jumping in front of the Bears to draft him. The Bears are one of the teams rumored to be interested in Jeanty at 10. Or they could wait until pick 11 to trade up so that Dallas doesn’t draft Jeanty.

Good !!!! Hampton is a much better fit for the Cowboys. My dream scenario for the Cowboys this year is trade back and take an O-linemen like Banks or Simmons and also draft Hampton. But I'm hearing the Broncos like Hampton so it may be hard to find a trading partner to make it work. Denver picks 20.

[Jaydubb]

I think you’re right about 1 of the top 3 offensive linemen falling. I just think it’s going to be Kelvin Banks. I wouldn’t be upset if the Cowboys drafted Banks at 12. They need all the help they can get on the OL. If Banks were drafted and replaced Zack Martin I think Banks would be the next HOF offensive lineman for them. I think the Cowboys really like Brock Hoffman though at RG.

If Mason Graham falls to 12 for any reason they should be sprinting to turn in their draft card. He’s exactly what they need in defense. I don’t see that happening. Walter Nolen is very interesting. As a player he’s a stud. As a person he’s a jackwagen. I wouldn’t be able to draft him at 12 because of that. Now if he falls to 44 I’d be all over it.

I really think the Cowboys are going to go with a skill player at 12 and if Tet McMillan falls to 12 I think he’s going to be the pick. If not Tet then it will be Matthew Golden. The one defender (at 12) that I think may make the Cowboys pause is CB Will Johnson. If they do plan to move on from Diggs as has been rumored then Johnson might be the pick. Schotty did say the other day that he prefers to build teams from the outside in. I don’t agree with that philosophy but if that’s what he thinks then the pick is likely Will Johnson or one of the WR’s.

Personally I’d prefer they trade back in the 18-20 range (picking up a pick in the 3rd or 4th round). At the 18-20 range they could go with Josh Simmons, Omarion Hampton, Emeka Egbuka, Luther Burden, Malaki Starks, Mike Green, or several other players. Any one of them would fill a need.

I don’t get the whole Hoffman thing . He pretty much outplayed Beebe most of training camp and off season . They raved about him at Center when Beebe was having trouble with snaps . They know Beebe can play gaurd and love Hoffman at C .. they need a guard yet they already announced Beebe will stay at Center . Lolol just Dallas being Dallas . Won’t even take a look .

It makes no sense like how they keep refusing to move Tyler Smith to LT where he showed he can be really good. Not to mention they NEED a LT yet still refuse to move him there. Makes zero sense.

Well, you never know. The eagles have had success moving guys around the OL. The eagles like to get guys that are smart, athletic, and coachable for that exact reason. Landon Dickerson was drafted to be a center and now he’s one of the better LGs in the league.

[Mr B]

The last time they made a significant trade up for a player was for Walter Jones (1997). That's how long it's been.

You're just not going to see trades happen this year.

We will definitely see a trade or two but we won’t see a lot of them. The trades will all be centered around the QB’s or if Jeanty makes it past the Raiders I could see Denver jumping in front of the Bears to draft him. The Bears are one of the teams rumored to be interested in Jeanty at 10. Or they could wait until pick 11 to trade up so that Dallas doesn’t draft Jeanty.

Good !!!! Hampton is a much better fit for the Cowboys. My dream scenario for the Cowboys this year is trade back and take an O-linemen like Banks or Simmons and also draft Hampton. But I'm hearing the Broncos like Hampton so it may be hard to find a trading partner. Denver [icks 29.

I would love to draft Hampton too. It would have to be a trade back scenario though. He’s not the best player available at 12 but he also won’t make it to pick 44. If the Cowboys can find a trading partner to move back, that’s the only way I see they will have a shot at Hampton. This draft is so deep with RB’s though they might be better off waiting until round 3 to draft their RB.

Two RB’s that I really like and would love for Dallas to draft (in the middle rounds) are Quinshon Judkins (the other Ohio St guy). This guy is Marion Barber. He will run straight through your face. I also like Damien Martinez from Miami and Devin Neal from Kansas. Neal could possibly be there in round 6.

[Mr B]

I don’t get the whole Hoffman thing . He pretty much outplayed Beebe most of training camp and off season . They raved about him at Center when Beebe was having trouble with snaps . They know Beebe can play gaurd and love Hoffman at C .. they need a guard yet they already announced Beebe will stay at Center . Lolol just Dallas being Dallas . Won’t even take a look .

It makes no sense like how they keep refusing to move Tyler Smith to LT where he showed he can be really good. Not to mention they NEED a LT yet still refuse to move him there. Makes zero sense.

Well, you never know. The eagles have had success moving guys around the OL. The eagles like to get guys that are smart, athletic, and coachable for that exact reason. Landon Dickerson was drafted to be a center and now he’s one of the better LGs in the league.

Yea and Schotty did say that the best 5 OL will play.

[Cactus Jack]

Yea the odds of teams trading up is not good. You never know though when it comes to drafting a QB.

I didn’t know that Seattle has never traded up before. That doesn’t mean they never will but I do agree that this is not the draft you want to trade up. I could see Cleveland and New York trying to trade up to get a QB (if they want that 5th year option).

The last time they made a significant trade up for a player was for Walter Jones (1997). That's how long it's been.

You're just not going to see trades happen this year.

We will definitely see a trade or two but we won’t see a lot of them. The trades will all be centered around the QB’s or if Jeanty makes it past the Raiders I could see Denver jumping in front of the Bears to draft him. The Bears are one of the teams rumored to be interested in Jeanty at 10. Or they could wait until pick 11 to trade up so that Dallas doesn’t draft Jeanty.

He's not getting past the Raiders. Lock it in!!

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[Mr B]

The last time they made a significant trade up for a player was for Walter Jones (1997). That's how long it's been.

You're just not going to see trades happen this year.

We will definitely see a trade or two but we won’t see a lot of them. The trades will all be centered around the QB’s or if Jeanty makes it past the Raiders I could see Denver jumping in front of the Bears to draft him. The Bears are one of the teams rumored to be interested in Jeanty at 10. Or they could wait until pick 11 to trade up so that Dallas doesn’t draft Jeanty.

He's not getting past the Raiders. Lock it in!!

Read on Twitter

Raiders, Bears, and Broncos seem to have the most interest in Jeanty.

[GoRapstheoriginal]

Might be a smoke screen, just saying.

[Mr B]

Might be a smoke screen, just saying.

More than likely. At this time of year they’re all lying.

[Cactus Jack]

Might be a smoke screen, just saying.

knowing Pete, I think Jeanty's a lock.

But there's also the Michigan connection (Spytek). So, if a player like Graham is still on the board, it could also be him.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Might be a smoke screen, just saying.

knowing Pete, I think Jeanty's a lock.

But there's also the Michigan connection (Spytek). So, if a player like Graham is still on the board, it could also be him.

You sure about that? I've heard some statements and seen some mock drafts showing the Raiders could go 3 ways here. They are also desperate for an OL and DT as well. Poor Raiders. They have been rebuilding since I joined Realgm 11 years ago.

[SurfAndTurf]

I don’t get the whole Hoffman thing . He pretty much outplayed Beebe most of training camp and off season . They raved about him at Center when Beebe was having trouble with snaps . They know Beebe can play gaurd and love Hoffman at C .. they need a guard yet they already announced Beebe will stay at Center . Lolol just Dallas being Dallas . Won’t even take a look .

It makes no sense like how they keep refusing to move Tyler Smith to LT where he showed he can be really good. Not to mention they NEED a LT yet still refuse to move him there. Makes zero sense.

Well, you never know. The eagles have had success moving guys around the OL. The eagles like to get guys that are smart, athletic, and coachable for that exact reason. Landon Dickerson was drafted to be a center and now he’s one of the better LGs in the league.

Dallas doesn’t have the luxury of a Jeff Stouland . When Callahan was on the staff the line always seemed more interchangeable. But they did bring in a couple alleged offensive line gurus with the new coaching staff so at least they are trying to change at least part of the culture. Could be why they didn’t cut ties with Steel they might be hoping the new coaches can get more out of him but …

[bluejerseyjinx]

It makes no sense like how they keep refusing to move Tyler Smith to LT where he showed he can be really good. Not to mention they NEED a LT yet still refuse to move him there. Makes zero sense.

Well, you never know. The eagles have had success moving guys around the OL. The eagles like to get guys that are smart, athletic, and coachable for that exact reason. Landon Dickerson was drafted to be a center and now he’s one of the better LGs in the league.

Dallas doesn’t have the luxury of a Jeff Stouland . When Callahan was on the staff the line always seemed more interchangeable. But they did bring in a couple alleged offensive line gurus with the new coaching staff so at least they are trying to change at least part of the culture. Could be why they didn’t cut ties with Steel they might be hoping the new coaches can get more out of him but …

[Mr B]

Might be a smoke screen, just saying.

knowing Pete, I think Jeanty's a lock.

But there's also the Michigan connection (Spytek). So, if a player like Graham is still on the board, it could also be him.

Don’t be surprised if Michigan TE Colston Loveland goes higher than expected. If Pete Carroll is looking for an offensive threat Loveland might be the best pass catcher in the draft.

[Cactus Jack]

Might be a smoke screen, just saying.

knowing Pete, I think Jeanty's a lock.

But there's also the Michigan connection (Spytek). So, if a player like Graham is still on the board, it could also be him.

Don’t be surprised if Michigan TE Colston Loveland goes higher than expected. If Pete Carroll is looking for an offensive threat Loveland might be the best pass catcher in the draft.

They have Brock Bowers. They won't take another TE.

If it's not Jeanty, then it could be Graham. But with how much Pete values RBs, Jeanty makes too much sense.

He would take a RB every year if given the chance. That's how much he values the position. A stud like Jeanty? He can't resist.

[Cactus Jack]

Might be a smoke screen, just saying.

knowing Pete, I think Jeanty's a lock.

But there's also the Michigan connection (Spytek). So, if a player like Graham is still on the board, it could also be him.

You sure about that? I've heard some statements and seen some mock drafts showing the Raiders could go 3 ways here. They are also desperate for an OL and DT as well. Poor Raiders. They have been rebuilding since I joined Realgm 11 years ago.

Carroll took Rashad Penny in the 1st round when he already had Chris Carson on the roster. He took Zach Charbonnet in the 2nd round, after taking Ken Walker the previous year. Yes, the man loves his RB's.

He tried to find a replacement for Marshawn for nearly a decade. You think he's going to pass on a talent like Jeanty? If he has any say.

[bluejerseyjinx]

knowing Pete, I think Jeanty's a lock.

But there's also the Michigan connection (Spytek). So, if a player like Graham is still on the board, it could also be him.

You sure about that? I've heard some statements and seen some mock drafts showing the Raiders could go 3 ways here. They are also desperate for an OL and DT as well. Poor Raiders. They have been rebuilding since I joined Realgm 11 years ago.

Carroll took Rashad Penny in the 1st round when he already had Chris Carson on the roster. He took Zach Charbonnet in the 2nd round, after taking Ken Walker the previous year. Yes, the man loves his RB's.

He tried to find a replacement for Marshawn for nearly a decade. You think he's going to pass on a talent like Jeanty? If he has any say.

It would be nice to hear from Raider posters and fan base that watch all the games. Be interesting to hear what they think the team needs. I've talked to 4 different Raider fans in my neck of the wood and I got 4 different answers on who the Raiders should take with their first pick.