KD to the Knicks part 2?

[G_K_F]

How does KD help the Knicks?

We suck defensively - specifically with no rim protection.

We have no bench to speak of.

What does 37 year old injury prone Kevin Durant at $54 million do for us?

We'd be adding a GOAT shooter as a 3rd option

And the situation here would be significantly better than what he had in Brooklyn and Phoenix. No Ben Simmons, vaccines, Bradley Beal, or questionable FOs and coaches, players playing outside their roles.

KD fits like a hand in a glove. If the Knicks can get him while retaining Brunson and KAT, they need to make this happen.

I'd rather spread that $54 million into a bench and some good defensive pieces at the 5.

[MrDollarBills]

How does KD help the Knicks?

We suck defensively - specifically with no rim protection.

We have no bench to speak of.

What does 37 year old injury prone Kevin Durant at $54 million do for us?

We'd be adding a GOAT shooter as a 3rd option

And the situation here would be significantly better than what he had in Brooklyn and Phoenix. No Ben Simmons, vaccines, Bradley Beal, or questionable FOs and coaches, players playing outside their roles.

KD fits like a hand in a glove. If the Knicks can get him while retaining Brunson and KAT, they need to make this happen.

I know two fanbases that said the same thing

[knicks94]

KD would provide the Knicks with the toughness that they lost after Randle was traded.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

How does KD help the Knicks?

We suck defensively - specifically with no rim protection.

We have no bench to speak of.

What does 37 year old injury prone Kevin Durant at $54 million do for us?

We'd be adding a GOAT shooter as a 3rd option

And the situation here would be significantly better than what he had in Brooklyn and Phoenix. No Ben Simmons, vaccines, Bradley Beal, or questionable FOs and coaches, players playing outside their roles.

KD fits like a hand in a glove. If the Knicks can get him while retaining Brunson and KAT, they need to make this happen.

I know two fanbases that said the same thing

Reading through their thread the Suns fans were actually heated they traded for him, amazing how they could see it was a bad move 2 years ago, but people on here want him


They also want him gone.

[Deeeez Knicks]

How does KD help the Knicks?

We suck defensively - specifically with no rim protection.

We have no bench to speak of.

What does 37 year old injury prone Kevin Durant at $54 million do for us?

We'd be adding a GOAT shooter as a 3rd option

And the situation here would be significantly better than what he had in Brooklyn and Phoenix. No Ben Simmons, vaccines, Bradley Beal, or questionable FOs and coaches, players playing outside their roles.

KD fits like a hand in a glove. If the Knicks can get him while retaining Brunson and KAT, they need to make this happen.

I know two fanbases that said the same thing

KAT is a great shooter too. Just needs to be unlocked more.

[Stannis]

We'd be adding a GOAT shooter as a 3rd option

And the situation here would be significantly better than what he had in Brooklyn and Phoenix. No Ben Simmons, vaccines, Bradley Beal, or questionable FOs and coaches, players playing outside their roles.

KD fits like a hand in a glove. If the Knicks can get him while retaining Brunson and KAT, they need to make this happen.

I know two fanbases that said the same thing

Reading through their thread the Suns fans were actually heated they traded for him, amazing how they could see it was a bad move 2 years ago, but people on here want him


They also want him gone.

I still do not think it's a good comparison. Suns lost their veteran PG, and then decided run with no PGs. It was a chemistry disaster. A front office disaster.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I know two fanbases that said the same thing

Reading through their thread the Suns fans were actually heated they traded for him, amazing how they could see it was a bad move 2 years ago, but people on here want him


They also want him gone.

I still do not think it's a good comparison. Suns lost their veteran PG, and then decided run with no PGs. It was a chemistry disaster. A front office disaster.

Everywhere he's been since leaving Golden State has been a disaster, how many more teams need to implode with him before we say that maybe he's no longer that great? Maybe he's part of the problem?

How would this be different from when the Bucks traded for Lillard? His raw stats were great, but he wasn't that guy anymore that could really impact winning, like KD can't impact it anymore. Lillard has been playing with a top 3 player, and they still suck.

[MrDollarBills]

We'd be adding a GOAT shooter as a 3rd option

And the situation here would be significantly better than what he had in Brooklyn and Phoenix. No Ben Simmons, vaccines, Bradley Beal, or questionable FOs and coaches, players playing outside their roles.

KD fits like a hand in a glove. If the Knicks can get him while retaining Brunson and KAT, they need to make this happen.

I know two fanbases that said the same thing

KAT is a great shooter too. Just needs to be unlocked more.

He should be taking way more threes.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Also, most importantly is that he's a free agent after next season. Imagine you trade for him, he doesn't like it and leaves regardless, then what?

[MrDollarBills]

We'd be adding a GOAT shooter as a 3rd option

And the situation here would be significantly better than what he had in Brooklyn and Phoenix. No Ben Simmons, vaccines, Bradley Beal, or questionable FOs and coaches, players playing outside their roles.

KD fits like a hand in a glove. If the Knicks can get him while retaining Brunson and KAT, they need to make this happen.

I know two fanbases that said the same thing

Reading through their thread the Suns fans were actually heated they traded for him, amazing how they could see it was a bad move 2 years ago, but people on here want him


They also want him gone.

There were fans over there who wanted nothing to do with him and they were right.

I know the grass looks greener, but it's really not.

[Stannis]

Everywhere he's been since leaving Golden State has been a disaster, how many more teams need to implode with him before we say that maybe he's no longer that great? Maybe he's part of the problem?

How would this be different from when the Bucks traded for Lillard? His raw stats were great, but he wasn't that guy anymore that could really impact winning, like KD can't impact it anymore. Lillard has been playing with a top 3 player, and they still suck.

I don't think it's that simple.

I think sometimes it makes perfect sense to take a player from a bad situation and put him in a better one. Other than KAT (who was traded for financial reasons), I the majority of the trades the Knicks have made recently fit this criteria.

If the idea is to just trade for "winners" on winning teams, then we will be waiting a long time.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Everywhere he's been since leaving Golden State has been a disaster, how many more teams need to implode with him before we say that maybe he's no longer that great? Maybe he's part of the problem?

How would this be different from when the Bucks traded for Lillard? His raw stats were great, but he wasn't that guy anymore that could really impact winning, like KD can't impact it anymore. Lillard has been playing with a top 3 player, and they still suck.

I don't think it's that simple.

I think sometimes it makes perfect sense to take a player from a bad situation and put him in a better one. Other than KAT (who was traded for financial reasons), I the majority of the trades the Knicks have made recently fit this criteria.

If the idea is to just trade for "winners" on winning teams, then we will be waiting a long time.

It is that simple, he's turning into the guy in the late stage of his career that can put up numbers but really can't impact winning as much as the numbers make you believe.


It's not a matter of just having winners, it's about having a group of players that are all roughly the same age. For all the complaining about KAT and Mikal, they are 28 and 30, you still have more time to figure things out. If you trade for KD and it turns into the Nets or Suns, you're done, completely done with no avenues out. Never mind the fact he's a free agent after next season.





This movie plays out all the time in the NBA, older star nearing the end that people still think can put a team over the top. For every LeBron & Curry, there's 10 Steve Nashes to the Lakers, or Lillards to the Bucks.

[Stannis]

It's hard for me to say KD was the problem when the Nets seasons were riddled with them trading Harden, Kyrie Irving and vaccines, and then Ben Simmons. KD still managed to put a good playoff run.

As far as the Suns... I'm being mocked for GMing like I'm "playing 2k" lol. But the most NBA 2k thing to do is ditch a PG and just play with volume scorers and give them play making duties (that's what I did in NBA 2k2 with Sprewell and Houston). It's easy, just make everybody pass a little bit more. You don't need a PG. That's exactly what the Suns did, and it's the opposite of what the Knicks would do.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I know two fanbases that said the same thing

Reading through their thread the Suns fans were actually heated they traded for him, amazing how they could see it was a bad move 2 years ago, but people on here want him


They also want him gone.

There were fans over there who wanted nothing to do with him and they were right.

I know the grass looks greener, but it's really not.

This is like when people wanted Lil Wayne at the superbowl.

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And Wayne hasn't been swept 2 of the last 3 times he's been in the playoffs.

[Stannis]

It is that simple, he's turning into the guy in the late stage of his career that can put up numbers but really can't impact winning as much as the numbers make you believe.

It's not a matter of just having winners, it's about having a group of players that are all roughly the same age. For all the complaining about KAT and Mikal, they are 28 and 30, you still have more time to figure things out. If you trade for KD and it turns into the Nets or Suns, you're done, completely done with no avenues out. Never mind the fact he's a free agent after next season.

This movie plays out all the time in the NBA, older star nearing the end that people still think can put a team over the top. For every LeBron & Curry, there's 10 Steve Nashes to the Lakers, or Lillards to the Bucks.

Sorry to keep dragging this on. But I think balance is important here. Teams like the 2011-2013 Lakers did not have balance. It was multiple guys in their twilight years with MDA as HC. On the Knicks, KD would be the only go over 31.

Lillard? There's no real comparison here to KD. Lillard was always an undersized + inefficient scoring guard.

As for extensions, it's likely KD extends prior to the trade.

BTW, I'm saying Knicks should only pursue KD if it means keeping KAT. I'm not advocating for a KAT <> KD swap.

If the criticism is wishful thinking on my part, I totally get that. All my arguments are moot if teams like Rockets, Wolves, and maybe OKC , Spurs, or Warriors make a strong push for KD.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

It is that simple, he's turning into the guy in the late stage of his career that can put up numbers but really can't impact winning as much as the numbers make you believe.

It's not a matter of just having winners, it's about having a group of players that are all roughly the same age. For all the complaining about KAT and Mikal, they are 28 and 30, you still have more time to figure things out. If you trade for KD and it turns into the Nets or Suns, you're done, completely done with no avenues out. Never mind the fact he's a free agent after next season.

This movie plays out all the time in the NBA, older star nearing the end that people still think can put a team over the top. For every LeBron & Curry, there's 10 Steve Nashes to the Lakers, or Lillards to the Bucks.

Sorry to keep dragging this on. But I think balance is important here. Teams like the 2011-2013 Lakers did not have balance. It was multiple guys in their twilight years with MDA as HC. On the Knicks, KD would be the only go over 31.

Lillard? There's no real comparison here to KD. Lillard was always an undersized + inefficient scoring guard.

As for extensions, it's likely KD extends prior to the trade.

BTW, I'm saying Knicks should only pursue KD if it means keeping KAT. I'm not advocating for a KAT <> KD swap.

If the criticism is wishful thinking on my part, I totally get that. All my arguments are moot if teams like Rockets, Wolves, and maybe OKC , Spurs, or Warriors make a strong push for KD.

It's really no different in the end, and Lillard was not an inefficient guard when they traded for him, he was coming off a 32ppg 7apg on 65% TS when they got him. He was a literal offensive machine that if you just looked at the numbers you'd have to do the trade, but reality is different and look at where they are now.


If it's not KAT for KD, it's 3 players for 1, 2 of them being starters, and that gets us into the worst part of shell game. Which is how do you replace all those rotational players when you're capped out and now deep in the second apron? Where do you find a starting 2 guard. If it's KAT for KD, you now need a center because nobody in their right mind thinks Mitch can play a full season. You trade Mikal for the center and now you need a 2 guard. This is what all these teams have done before to fix the holes they created by trading for older stars.

The Rockets/Spurs are the best situated to trade for him in terms of being able to have a future after they do it if it doesn't work out, the Wolves are already up doo-doo creek and have to do something to keep their young star in Minnesota, and that move after it fails will probably push him out of there.

[3toheadmelo]

We’re getting KD

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yeah, they have suns picks in 27/29 and the suns have a good chance of being real bad. that's what the suns will want. they'll hold out for booker before giving them picks up.

Look what Marc stein just said. KD to the Knicks is sounding like a real possibility.

Phoenix undoubtedly (and badly) wants the Rockets to want Durant to try to get back some of the Suns' precious draft capital that Houston controls: Namely first-round picks in 2027 and 2029 as well as first-round swap rights in this June's draft. Yet the Rockets' messaging all season has been consistent: When they do make their next big-swing trade, in the offseason or otherwise, they prefer to target players closer in age to their current core players.

Minnesota, New York, Miami and San Antonio rank as the most frequently cited potential Durant suitors. League sources, in particular, have been pinpointing the Timberwolves and Knicks depending on how their postseasons play out.

[god shammgod]

We’re getting KD

Read on Twitter

yeah, they have suns picks in 27/29 and the suns have a good chance of being real bad. that's what the suns will want. they'll hold out for booker before giving them picks up.

Look what Marc stein just said. KD to the Knicks is sounding like a real possibility.

Phoenix undoubtedly (and badly) wants the Rockets to want Durant to try to get back some of the Suns' precious draft capital that Houston controls: Namely first-round picks in 2027 and 2029 as well as first-round swap rights in this June's draft. Yet the Rockets' messaging all season has been consistent: When they do make their next big-swing trade, in the offseason or otherwise, they prefer to target players closer in age to their current core players.

Minnesota, New York, Miami and San Antonio rank as the most frequently cited potential Durant suitors. League sources, in particular, have been pinpointing the Timberwolves and Knicks depending on how their postseasons play out.

we're clearly not good enough. they're gonna have to make a change besides just the coach. so could be.

[3toheadmelo]

yeah, they have suns picks in 27/29 and the suns have a good chance of being real bad. that's what the suns will want. they'll hold out for booker before giving them picks up.

Look what Marc stein just said. KD to the Knicks is sounding like a real possibility.

Phoenix undoubtedly (and badly) wants the Rockets to want Durant to try to get back some of the Suns' precious draft capital that Houston controls: Namely first-round picks in 2027 and 2029 as well as first-round swap rights in this June's draft. Yet the Rockets' messaging all season has been consistent: When they do make their next big-swing trade, in the offseason or otherwise, they prefer to target players closer in age to their current core players.

Minnesota, New York, Miami and San Antonio rank as the most frequently cited potential Durant suitors. League sources, in particular, have been pinpointing the Timberwolves and Knicks depending on how their postseasons play out.

we're clearly not good enough. they're gonna have to make a change besides just the coach. so could be.

Yeah if we don’t make it to the ecf (we aren’t), I can see the Knicks trading for KD.

[god shammgod]

Look what Marc stein just said. KD to the Knicks is sounding like a real possibility.

we're clearly not good enough. they're gonna have to make a change besides just the coach. so could be.

Yeah if we don’t make it to the ecf (we aren’t), I can see the Knicks trading for KD.

we really f*cked up with the trades we made this summer because giannis is clearly gone this summer. I'll never understand why we were so patient waiting for the big star to then turn around and empty the war chest for mikal/kat. the kat trade was obviously made out of desperation because they didn't have a healthy center. and when you're desperate you make bad decisions. but what was the desperation for mikal about ? to reunite jalen with his friend ? the f*ck are we doing