2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5

[WuTang_CMB]

Would you guys be upset if the raps took Jak if they end up staying between 7-10?

Easily one of the highest IQ's in the draft. Think he could seamlessly fit with IQ or Shead in the back court.

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[DreamTeam09]

The Maluach clips against team usa has now changed my mind. Maybe he's good

He did that at 17, Duke didn't ask him to do much and he still somewhat excelled in his role. He'll have more room and space to grow and develop in the NBA.
He also gives us some size in a Kat/Allen/Turner/Porzingas/Bam/Ware eastern Conference

[Duffman100]

Would you guys be upset if the raps took Jak if they end up staying between 7-10?

Easily one of the highest IQ's in the draft. Think he could seamlessly fit with IQ or Shead in the back court.

At this point I'm not sure I'd be upset with anyone in our range. Seems like they all have pros and cons

The guy that would shock a lot people and I low key expect from Toronto is Nolan Traore. He has had pretty poor shooting numbers in the French League currently, but against his peers he played at a high level.

He has NBA type burst off a standstill and reads the game at another level. He also is a basketball lifer playing since six years old and he has been in INSEP the French b-ball system for youth. He's a lot like Tony Parker. Speaks English comfortably as well.

At Nike Hoops Summit 2024 against Flagg and with International guys like VJ, Dyabantsa and Maluach he managed to stand out and lead his team with sharp passing, tough finishing with both hands, and outside shooting. He finished with 18 points and 4 assists but also he dominated in practices.

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Then he had the AGNT 2024 tournament which exploded his hype with 45 points in the finals against Barca.

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After last summer I had him as a top three talent but now I am not sure after watching his game in France. He still averages 10 and 5 but he struggles shooting. He has similar numbers in the past two years.

Damn he looks interesting too!

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Does Wolf make it to the Portland pick?

Would rather a more finished player with the lotto pick and I don't see that with Maluach.

[Clutch0z24]

For Maluach i decided to look for vidoes of his 3 point shooting and if it can ever translate to the NBA....Its a tough sell for me....He has decent form but idk if any NBA team will let him shoot them alot...

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Offensive game way 2 raw for me still.
His highlight tape is mostly all lob dunks or wide open finishes....I have yet to see an offensive move that wow'd me ....

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The Maluach clips against team usa has now changed my mind. Maybe he's good

He did that at 17, Duke didn't ask him to do much and he still somewhat excelled in his role. He'll have more room and space to grow and develop in the NBA.
He also gives us some size in a Kat/Allen/Turner/Porzingas/Bam/Ware eastern Conference

I wouldn't mind Maluach on the condition that you develop him as more than just a rim running shot blocker.

His shot looks smooth. He seems very agile and has a standing reach longer than Wemby.

Having played basketball for 5 years...he is a blank slate. Ball handling, passing and shooting...add that to the development program.

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For Maluach i decided to look for vidoes of his 3 point shooting and if it can ever translate to the NBA....Its a tough sell for me....He has decent form but idk if any NBA team will let him shoot them alot...

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Offensive game way 2 raw for me still.
His highlight tape is mostly all lob dunks or wide open finishes....I have yet to see an offensive move that wow'd me ....

You'll be hard pressed to find centers his size let alone 18 year old ones in a typical draft with the kind of strong shooting markers he has posted.

[Clutch0z24]

For Maluach i decided to look for vidoes of his 3 point shooting and if it can ever translate to the NBA....Its a tough sell for me....He has decent form but idk if any NBA team will let him shoot them alot...

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Offensive game way 2 raw for me still.
His highlight tape is mostly all lob dunks or wide open finishes....I have yet to see an offensive move that wow'd me ....

You'll be hard pressed to find centers his size let alone 18 year old ones in a typical draft with the kind of strong shooting markers he has posted.

By shooting do mean jump shots? Because i have not seen many jumpshots from him ....Its all Open dunks, Lobs....He can't handle the ball at all, Doesn't have a polished post up game, And is not a good passer....And his rebounding is not that good for his size....

He will need a good passing PG to maximize his strengths...Like a CP3ish type which we don't really have...

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For Maluach i decided to look for vidoes of his 3 point shooting and if it can ever translate to the NBA....Its a tough sell for me....He has decent form but idk if any NBA team will let him shoot them alot...

Watch on YouTube

Offensive game way 2 raw for me still.
His highlight tape is mostly all lob dunks or wide open finishes....I have yet to see an offensive move that wow'd me ....

You'll be hard pressed to find centers his size let alone 18 year old ones in a typical draft with the kind of strong shooting markers he has posted.

By shooting do mean jump shots? Because i have not seen many jumpshots from him ....Its all Open dunks, Lobs....He can't handle the ball at all, Doesn't have a polished post up game, And is not a good passer....And his rebounding is not that good for his size....

He will need a good passing PG to maximize his strengths...Like a CP3ish type which we don't really have...

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Watch for the footage of the South Sudan vs team USA in this highlight package. He drills a long 2 with Embiid in his face. He also hits an open 3.

The form on the shot looks good.

And as I said before...he's even said in an interview while at Basketball Africa Academy that Kyle Korver was helping him with his 3 point shot...at age 16.

Just because you don't see him doing it at Duke...doesn't mean he doesn't have it. It's the way he was used by the coaching staff.

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Mark Williams is allergic to defence despite his blocks and is a pretty terrible comp for Maluach. So no, that would not be appealing and would be terrible lol.

Williams is probably not someone you can win with playing matador defence at the 5. Probably should make you more weary of Queen if anything.

In all honesty i like both prospects Maluach and Queen, but they both have potential to end up just as decent role players. Hope not, but you can’t be blind to it.

I am unsure his defense / rebounding is better than Mark Williams. Keep in mind that he was terrible against Houston with zero rebound.
Again, that is a pretty fair average case scenario for Maluach. Your Chandler comparison is high end, that is the assumption that he improves his defense and rebounding to that level.

Hmm not sure how much of Maluach you have watched then, unless you just watched the last game (Houston) when he heard he was about to be deported. There us no way you could think that of you watched his previous games closely. He is an extraordinary defender for some one who has only been playing a few years and switchable too.

Mark Williams doesn’t really play any defence so.. if Maluach plays anything like him then yeah you’re right no one should draft him He won’t even be in the league.

You failed to understand visa and immigration. He wont be deported. Those without talent and fight against Americans for average jobs will get deported. The purpose of visa is to ensure talent stay at that country.

Malauch has yet to show he is a capable defender, we are talking about potential here. Would not be surprised he foul out in 5 mins with our perimeter defense.

[Son Goku 25]

A taller Shaun Livingston? Maybe without the playmaking.. I can see him be a raps pick lol there's so many choices it makes sense what Masai is saying.

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Yeah ofc that is an amazing player....Chandler was one heck of a big man for his time....Its just hard for me to see Maluach being anything more than a Lob threat P&R guy....We can say he will be Chandler with a 3 pointer but he still has so much to develop in his game that he could also be the bust of the draft....And end up another Thon Maker/Thabeet/Darko.....Like i said i won't mind the swing at 9th...If we are choosing between CMB/Maluach/Kasparas/Kon ...Im prolly going Maluach....But at 7/8 if any of Tre/Queen/Fears are still on the board im prolly taking them respectfully.

A championship teams needs a defensive anchor. Tyson Chandler got Dirk his campionship. Gasol got us ours, mind you, without blocking a ton of shots. I will not pretend to know but IF Maluach can be that, well, that is a piece. Not every player on the team are going to be amazing at everything.

Gasol is more comparable to Queen.
We dont really need much from shot blocker in our championship run, because we got good defenders all across positions. From Lowry / VanVleet at PG, Green / Powell at SG, Leonard / Anunoby at SF, Siakam at PF, Gasol / Ibaka at C. All of them can straight up guard their position, or even switch over.

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I hate this part of the draft cycle. We've already discussed these prospects at Nasueam, and it's gotten stale. The lottery will be the first domino, but combine/workouts are when it gets sweet.

Nobody wants to talk about Johni Broome even though it was a nonstop circle jerk over Dalton Knecht at this time last year. The difference between these older guys is one can successfully scale down and the other can't.

This draft is loaded up the rear with a number of older guys who almost certainly will return t20 class vorp.

Because there are the 5th year seniors in this draft, which is why the bottom is more stacked.

Teams always pick on freshman for potential, because teams feel they will be missed with other teams picking them earlier. Seniors are more a safe picks, but most high potential candidates were drafted, so the remaining ones are not high ceiling.

We have more success with seniors, and players like Vince Carter, Leonard, Siakam, they are not freshman, and they show their stuff instead of just raw and potential.

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Does Wolf make it to the Portland pick?

Would rather a more finished player with the lotto pick and I don't see that with Maluach.

Wolf can't handle C and isn't quick enough for the 4.

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Doesn't he look like Poeltl that can shoot?

I guess JV 2.0? Quinten Post?

[Grew]

I tuned in to a couple Illinois games. Tomislav looked like he couldn't guard a 5th grader on the perimeter. Wouldn't use the 39th on him.

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I tuned in to a couple Illinois games. Tomislav looked like he couldn't guard a 5th grader on the perimeter. Wouldn't use the 39th on him.

Isn't he returning to Illinois and joining his brother on transfer?