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Post#1781 » by The Consiglieri » Fri Apr 18, 2025 3:53 pm

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The Consiglieri wrote:I am curious and maybe a little crazy. Would the NBA just rip our pick, if we violated all of their subtle bull---- rules about tanking?


All we know is Adam Silver said the competition committee would talk about rules proposals to discourage tanking.

Last time they did that they came up with the modified odds. Do they expand the lotto odds to the bottom 8? Or if the bottom 4 had 10% each but those after that had better odds? Or the two worst teams get the 4&5 pick? These are all ideas floated by Mike Vorkunov of the Athletic to encourage a dogfight even among the teams at the bottom of the standings.

I wouldn’t hate it if the cellar dwellers had to fight it out. A little late season juice to look forward to. Or a mini tournament among those that missed the playoffs where the best of the worst got bettered odds as a reward. Plus cash incentives for the players to encourage participation. I dunno. The toilet bowl. The stupor bowl.

Owners still have to vote on whatever they come up with. But I get the sense that anything that screws Ted wouldn’t entirely be frowned on.


I guess I'll just say, none of it makes any sense to me.

The way they layed it out seemed to designed, though I know that's tin foil hat syndrome (it was just stupidity on their part) to reward great flagship teams, that already get the benefit of free agent interest, with the chance to dip into the lottery in the event of a catastrophic mid season injury. Philly did this this year, Miami basically did this due to Butler's melt down with the FO, if the Celtics lost Tatum and/or Brown they would do the same. It essentially is a system that inherently enriches strong franchises that have 1 season of bad luck, and ruthlessly punishes teams at rock bottom, and especially teams headed to rock bottom in undesirable locations unlikely to ever draw elite free agents (see Charlotte, Orlando, Milwaukee, Indiana etc).

It didn't achieve its objectives (preventing tanking) actually accelerated 2nd half of season tanking, and it made the leagues most fundamental issue (half the franchises are totally ----ed or nearly ----ed in a way that isn't true in any other sport, even baseball, barring lottery good fortune/or a SGA/Giannis/Jokic Miracle pick) significantly worse. As Milwaukee loses Giannis in the next year or two, their chances at rising back to the top are infinitely more remote than they were 10 years ago of effecting such change and such a rise. Indeed, w/o the last of the truly colossal idiot trades benefitting OKC, it would be in an identical situation.

That's what frustrates me. The lack of self-awareness, that cities like Milwaukee, Indiana, Charlotte, Orlando etc desperately need to have reasonable lottery odds to have any chance, period, and the league basically shot gunned those hopes six or seven years ago w/those changes. Now instead of a 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 chance of a miracle having a decisive impact, those cities float in a world where their chances are more like 1 in 8 to 1 in 12 at best, which is still possible, but highly unlikely and NO FA's are ever targeting Milwaukee, Indiana or Charlotte period....There is nothing wrong with tanking and never has been anything wrong with it. All a GM and Owner owe their teams is to do their very best to manage in the best long term interests of the franchise. If you have a great build, thats in contending, if you have a desolate roster, then its in tanking, period. Honestly, there shouldn't even be a lottery period, it should simply be in order of finish, period. I've never understood their distaste for it, the GM's and Coaches that tank for franchise QB's in elite classes, are simply doing whats in their teams long term interest just as a playoff contender does the same. No difference whatsoever, and its ridiculous to treat it differently in my view. If you're mad some teams sitting its best players late, maybe you should have won more games early, too freaking bad, Never understood this issue, it's utter nonsense and always has been. There is no tanking issue, period. Its simply smart roster management.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1782 » by doclinkin » Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:23 pm

Their other proposal was to follow the WNBA model that averages the record of the last two years to determine tanking order, exactly to prevent top-tier teams from tanking due to injury. You can still do a The Process that way, and institutionally tank for a few years, but whatever. I think The Process was the thing that made them decide to blow the whole thing up.
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Post#1783 » by dobrojim » Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:43 pm

Carter Bryant

He's not listed on Tankathon but his YouTube highlight look really good (who's don't?)

What's his story? Age, height etc

Looks like a strong solid PF frame with all the accoutrements. I'm not sure why
a guy as impressive as he seems to be wasn't on Tank.
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Post#1784 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:30 pm

New video AVC breaks down the Bleacher Report mock draft...


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Post#1785 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:58 pm

dobrojim wrote:Carter Bryant

He's not listed on Tankathon but his YouTube highlight look really good (who's don't?)

What's his story? Age, height etc

Looks like a strong solid PF frame with all the accoutrements. I'm not sure why
a guy as impressive as he seems to be wasn't on Tank.




He's in Tankathon... #23 on their Big Board.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/carter-bryant

I like him a lot. He's 19, and is definitely an upside pick. He has all the physical tools, he just didn't play a lot and came off the bench most of the year as a Freshman.

When I would watch Arizona, it literally made no sense. He'd come in, start making some plays and start getting in to a flow, and then get taken out. He at times was clearly the best player on the floor, but his teammates especially Love just never seemed to look to get him involved. There was some speculation the coach was trying to limit Bryant preventing his draft stock to rise so he'd keep him another year.

I'm looking at him like Kyshawn at Miami. Didn't play a lot, didn't make a huge impact, but you can see the talent. He is obviously skilled, and has all the physical attributes you want. Similar to a lot of the European prospects that don't get a ton of PT, but you can see the flashes.

I see a kid who is long and strong at 6-8 225, was really good in H.S., has a nice shooting stroke and looks effortless on 3's, is explosive and coordinated, has a high motor and defends at a nigh level. He can play physical, and he can play skillful, with touch around the rim, or dunking with his head at rim level. And watching interviews and by all accounts he's a great kid, thoughtful and hard working.

So I like him, and once the combine and workouts get going I'm sure he's going to start rising up draft boards.
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Post#1786 » by tontoz » Fri Apr 18, 2025 10:59 pm

Memphis is a 5.5 pt favorite. Morant is a game time decision. Feeling a little nervous.
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Post#1787 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:04 pm

tontoz wrote:Memphis is a 5.5 pt favorite. Morant is a game time decision. Feeling a little nervous.



Morant better play!!!!! :o

This Grizzlies game tonight is the closest thing to a Wizards playoff game we can get! I'm going to be watching on the edge of my seat tonight!!

Grizzlies win Wizards get a 1st round pick! They lose and we lose the pick!!

This game is absolutely crucial for us!
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1788 » by Silvie Lysandra » Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:12 pm

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That's what frustrates me. The lack of self-awareness, that cities like Milwaukee, Indiana, Charlotte, Orlando etc desperately need to have reasonable lottery odds to have any chance, period, and the league basically shot gunned those hopes six or seven years ago w/those changes. Now instead of a 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 chance of a miracle having a decisive impact, those cities float in a world where their chances are more like 1 in 8 to 1 in 12 at best, which is still possible, but highly unlikely and NO FA's are ever targeting Milwaukee, Indiana or Charlotte period....There is nothing wrong with tanking and never has been anything wrong with it. All a GM and Owner owe their teams is to do their very best to manage in the best long term interests of the franchise. If you have a great build, thats in contending, if you have a desolate roster, then its in tanking, period. Honestly, there shouldn't even be a lottery period, it should simply be in order of finish, period. I've never understood their distaste for it, the GM's and Coaches that tank for franchise QB's in elite classes, are simply doing whats in their teams long term interest just as a playoff contender does the same. No difference whatsoever, and its ridiculous to treat it differently in my view. If you're mad some teams sitting its best players late, maybe you should have won more games early, too freaking bad, Never understood this issue, it's utter nonsense and always has been. There is no tanking issue, period. Its simply smart roster management.


There is a shocking amount of people that transparently want the NBA to be along the lines of soccer, where most of the teams are just fodder for the top teams. They think parity is actively bad and that we should be relegating bad teams just for the fun of seeing the teams at the bottom fight it out, with almost zero effective hope of being good. The "omg tanking" is just a figleaf for the desire of fans of the Lakers, Knicks, etc al, to have the league structurally skewed in their favor the way that only Real Madrid and Barca have a real shot in La Liga, or how Bayern Munchen wins Bundesliga 90% of the time.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1789 » by doclinkin » Sat Apr 19, 2025 12:05 am

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dobrojim wrote:Carter Bryant

He's not listed on Tankathon but his YouTube highlight look really good (who's don't?)

What's his story? Age, height etc

Looks like a strong solid PF frame with all the accoutrements. I'm not sure why
a guy as impressive as he seems to be wasn't on Tank.




He's in Tankathon... #23 on their Big Board.

https://www.tankathon.com/players/carter-bryant

I like him a lot. He's 19, and is definitely an upside pick. He has all the physical tools, he just didn't play a lot and came off the bench most of the year as a Freshman.

When I would watch Arizona, it literally made no sense. He'd come in, start making some plays and start getting in to a flow, and then get taken out. He at times was clearly the best player on the floor, but his teammates especially Love just never seemed to look to get him involved. There was some speculation the coach was trying to limit Bryant preventing his draft stock to rise so he'd keep him another year.

I'm looking at him like Kyshawn at Miami. Didn't play a lot, didn't make a huge impact, but you can see the talent. He is obviously skilled, and has all the physical attributes you want. Similar to a lot of the European prospects that don't get a ton of PT, but you can see the flashes.

I see a kid who is long and strong at 6-8 225, was really good in H.S., has a nice shooting stroke and looks effortless on 3's, is explosive and coordinated, has a high motor and defends at a nigh level. He can play physical, and he can play skillful, with touch around the rim, or dunking with his head at rim level. And watching interviews and by all accounts he's a great kid, thoughtful and hard working.

So I like him, and once the combine and workouts get going I'm sure he's going to start rising up draft boards.


He’d also fit right in in DC as a kid who was raised in the Deaf community. His grandparents were both deaf, I believe he went to Deaf schools. Anyway, fully fluent in sign language and this area has many Opportunities for people who are culturally deaf.

Agreed, I believe Arizona’s coach is known for trying to hide his talents on the bench to squeeze another year out of them.

Absolutely he looks like a Dawkins type of upside pick.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1790 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:25 am

Almost time!

Tonight is part 1 of our draft. Do we have another 1st round pick or not?? Tonight we find out!

Part 2 is The Lottery and Part 3 is The Draft.

Other key steps to look forward to include The Combine with Measurements, Wizards Team Private Workouts, and then Summer League following the draft.

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1791 » by long suffrin' boulez fan » Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:03 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:Almost time!

Tonight is part 1 of our draft. Do we have another 1st round pick or not?? Tonight we find out!

Part 2 is The Lottery and Part 3 is The Draft.

Other key steps to look forward to include The Combine with Measurements, Wizards Team Private Workouts, and then Summer League following the draft.

:pray: :wizard: :hoop: :clap:


Yep. Then ironically not a whole lot of interest for another year until next years lottery
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#1792 » by Jay81 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:22 am

Memphis losing this would be the most so wizards ever
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Post#1793 » by Jay81 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:04 am

And Memphis is blowing it
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Post#1794 » by Frichuela » Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:25 am

Nah. Back up 18 points at the end of the 3rd.

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Post#1795 » by Jimmy Recard » Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:56 am

Good job Memphis 8-) we are so back
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Post#1796 » by DCZards » Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:03 am

Gonna be a lot of good players available at what looks like will be the 19th pick. So happy we have a FO that knows its stuff when it comes to evaluating talent.
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Post#1797 » by gesa2 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:16 am

New *So Wizards* outcome- the best possible thing happening! Memphis drops to the last team in the playoffs, making their pick much more valuable than we guessed it would be at the time of the trade. It’s time for optimism guys. Now we just need a top 2 pick come lottery time!
Making extreme statements like "only" sounds like there are "no" Jokics in this draft? Jokic is an engine that was drafted in the 2nd round. Always a chance to see diamond dropped by sloppy burgular after a theft.
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Post#1798 » by dobrojim » Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:17 am

So for our 2nd FRP, between Bryant, Bailey, Fleming, Sorber and of course DQ (ccj I know your answer), who do you take?

The mocks say Ace who will probably be long gone
by our 2nd pick. I'm probably leaving some other guys
out that our FO is looking hard at. Essengue who's
really young. I gotta believe they''d be really happy
if their top choice was a PF or C so they could avoid
picking for fit. Unless they take Maluach first.

Probably or obviously might depend
on who they take with their first pick,
A G or SF or a PF/C. They might just wanna
pick someone who's not quite ready to contribute
immediately but for upside 2-3 years out given
next years draft pick encumberances. Maybe they'd
pick that way anyway.
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Post#1799 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:57 am

Yes! Way to go Memphis!! I was expecting the worst. That was great!!

Hard to believe what's happened to Dallas this season. Good for us!!

We have another 1st round pick!!
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Post#1800 » by gambitx777 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 7:33 am

So it bottoms out at 16 right? Or is it gonna be like 20?

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