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Post#121 » by FrozenEnvelope » Fri Apr 4, 2025 3:33 pm

Luv those Knicks wrote:I saw this the other day and I'd never heard of this before, though I don't know how NY could have signed him without cap space.

But Ewing didn't want Mourning on the Knicks? Why? Why Pat? Why? Afraid to share the spotlight?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/i-don-t-want-you-here-mourning-says-ewing-advised-him-to-join-the-heat-instead-of-teaming-up-with-him-in-ny/ar-AA1Ca49D?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=b5b190afb8e34581b4709e5c7a61e55c&ei=30


Don't remember ever hearing this back then but I don't think I believe it cause no way Ewing would have turned down a chance to play with his good friend. But trading for BoZo in 95 would have been difficult! Not sure we could've top the Glen Rice package that Charlotte received.
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Post#122 » by Luv those Knicks » Fri Apr 4, 2025 4:01 pm

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Luv those Knicks wrote:I saw this the other day and I'd never heard of this before, though I don't know how NY could have signed him without cap space.

But Ewing didn't want Mourning on the Knicks? Why? Why Pat? Why? Afraid to share the spotlight?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/i-don-t-want-you-here-mourning-says-ewing-advised-him-to-join-the-heat-instead-of-teaming-up-with-him-in-ny/ar-AA1Ca49D?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=b5b190afb8e34581b4709e5c7a61e55c&ei=30


Don't remember ever hearing this back then but I don't think I believe it cause no way Ewing would have turned down a chance to play with his good friend. But trading for BoZo in 95 would have been difficult! Not sure we could've top the Glen Rice package that Charlotte received.


Well, Zo signed his big deal a year later. He was on his rookie contract his first year with the Heat, so NY would have had cap space. What doesn't make sense is that Zo asking Ewing about Pat Riley, unless either the writer or Alonzo got their history mixed up.

1996, NYK signed Houston for 5, traded for LJ (making 5) and signed Childs 2.6 Zo signed for Miami for 9. But Zo playing a year in Miami, then coming to NY as a free agent, it feels a little thin.
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Post#124 » by DOT » Fri Apr 4, 2025 7:56 pm

It's really impressive how the Wolves have the 2nd best defense in the league when Randle is on the bench.
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Post#125 » by Wildcat » Fri Apr 4, 2025 8:08 pm

DOT wrote:It's really impressive how the Wolves have the 2nd best defense in the league when Randle is on the bench.


I ain't talking trash about defense with KAT as our C right now. And also, T-Wolves are 13-3 since Randle's return.
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Post#126 » by DOT » Fri Apr 4, 2025 8:36 pm

Wildcat wrote: T-Wolves are 13-3 since Randle's return.

Says a lot about the rest of the squad then. Kudos to them.
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Post#127 » by nykballa2k4 » Sat Apr 5, 2025 2:01 am

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Wildcat wrote: T-Wolves are 13-3 since Randle's return.

Says a lot about the rest of the squad then. Kudos to them.


Really good team, glad they are coming together. Randle, DDV, Ant are DAWGS.
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Post#128 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Apr 5, 2025 3:09 pm

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DOT wrote:It's really impressive how the Wolves have the 2nd best defense in the league when Randle is on the bench.


I ain't talking trash about defense with KAT as our C right now. And also, T-Wolves are 13-3 since Randle's return.

And they’re 5-8 without Randle. But let’s not let narratives get in the way of facts. :lol:
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Post#129 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Apr 5, 2025 9:06 pm

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Post#130 » by Deeeez Knicks » Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:09 am

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Post#131 » by Luv those Knicks » Thu Apr 17, 2025 6:45 am

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Post#132 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Apr 17, 2025 2:49 pm

Luv those Knicks wrote:Who remembers this guy??

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Youthful Sabonis?
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Post#133 » by Luv those Knicks » Thu Apr 17, 2025 3:09 pm

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Youthful Sabonis?


Yup. Not many saw him play, but he was coordinated and 7-3 and in the NBA, way past his prime he shot 78% from the FT line which was unheard of for a 7 footer back then, and 34% from 3 and he was a natural player and terrific passer.

He's built like a ball player, and even when he was no longer built like that and on bad ankles, he was still pretty good. In his prime he must have been incredible. I don't think it's a stretch to put him up there with David Robinson or Patrick Ewing, and perhaps better.
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Post#134 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:05 am

Luv those Knicks wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
Luv those Knicks wrote:Who remembers this guy??

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Youthful Sabonis?


Yup. Not many saw him play, but he was coordinated and 7-3 and in the NBA, way past his prime he shot 78% from the FT line which was unheard of for a 7 footer back then, and 34% from 3 and he was a natural player and terrific passer.

He's built like a ball player, and even when he was no longer built like that and on bad ankles, he was still pretty good. In his prime he must have been incredible. I don't think it's a stretch to put him up there with David Robinson or Patrick Ewing, and perhaps better.


Some have said he was maybe the best center of all time, but we'll never truly know since his prime was spent playing for Russia.
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Post#135 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Apr 19, 2025 6:38 pm

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Youthful Sabonis?


Yup. Not many saw him play, but he was coordinated and 7-3 and in the NBA, way past his prime he shot 78% from the FT line which was unheard of for a 7 footer back then, and 34% from 3 and he was a natural player and terrific passer.

He's built like a ball player, and even when he was no longer built like that and on bad ankles, he was still pretty good. In his prime he must have been incredible. I don't think it's a stretch to put him up there with David Robinson or Patrick Ewing, and perhaps better.


Some have said he was maybe the best center of all time, but we'll never truly know since his prime was spent playing for Russia.


Probably Jokic with better defense is a comp.

I think we can all say now that Jokic is the best passing center of all time, even above young Sabonis.
Young Sabonis was a force defensively though.
Jokic is underrated on defense but Sabonis was another level.

Jokic now up for debate as best passing forward, if anyone is reluctant to put him in with guards. He's in the conversation of best passer of all time. He's at least in that top 5 list.
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Post#136 » by Clyde_Style » Sat Apr 19, 2025 7:23 pm

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Yup. Not many saw him play, but he was coordinated and 7-3 and in the NBA, way past his prime he shot 78% from the FT line which was unheard of for a 7 footer back then, and 34% from 3 and he was a natural player and terrific passer.

He's built like a ball player, and even when he was no longer built like that and on bad ankles, he was still pretty good. In his prime he must have been incredible. I don't think it's a stretch to put him up there with David Robinson or Patrick Ewing, and perhaps better.


Some have said he was maybe the best center of all time, but we'll never truly know since his prime was spent playing for Russia.


Probably Jokic with better defense is a comp.

I think we can all say now that Jokic is the best passing center of all time, even above young Sabonis.
Young Sabonis was a force defensively though.
Jokic is underrated on defense but Sabonis was another level.

Jokic now up for debate as best passing forward, if anyone is reluctant to put him in with guards. He's in the conversation of best passer of all time. He's at least in that top 5 list.


I probably should watch more Nuggets games just for the pleasure of watching Jokic operate. He is the best touch passer I have ever seen. He could have the ball in his hands for a fraction of a second before he re-routes it to a teammate in whatever brilliant flick of the wrist it takes to deliver the ball to them instantly. There has rarely been a player with such court awareness combined with his abilities.

If we're talking about bigs like centers and forwards and excluding PGs, then the only people whom I can think of who did some of the things Jokic does would be guys like Bird, Walton, Russell and I'm sure there are a few others. But none of them would do magic tricks a dozen times a game like Jokic.

There's no real reason to compare his passing to PGs at his size. No PG other than maybe Magic had the size to look over everyone and pass from any angle to anywhere on the floor. With his frame and reach, Jokic can direct an offense from a standstill position in the pivot at high post or in the paint without even dribbling. He is Sui Generis.

There are too many defensive greats at his position for him to stack up against, but he holds his own enough that his impact on the offensive end is fairly unprecedented.

Sabonis prime vs. Jokic would certainly have been an entertaining matchup.

Jokic is easily in the top 5 passers of all time. He may be the best, if not now then by the time he is done.

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Post#137 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Apr 20, 2025 3:17 pm

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Luv those Knicks wrote:I saw this the other day and I'd never heard of this before, though I don't know how NY could have signed him without cap space.

But Ewing didn't want Mourning on the Knicks? Why? Why Pat? Why? Afraid to share the spotlight?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/i-don-t-want-you-here-mourning-says-ewing-advised-him-to-join-the-heat-instead-of-teaming-up-with-him-in-ny/ar-AA1Ca49D?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=b5b190afb8e34581b4709e5c7a61e55c&ei=30


Don't remember ever hearing this back then but I don't think I believe it cause no way Ewing would have turned down a chance to play with his good friend. But trading for BoZo in 95 would have been difficult! Not sure we could've top the Glen Rice package that Charlotte received.

It’s just wild how thirty years pass…
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Post#138 » by dakomish23 » Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:16 pm

When we traded for KAT, besides being excited for KAT & being upset Randle couldn't get a chance w/ this new roster since his signing started it all, my takeaway was that if we had used Mitch instead of DDV and somehow kept Hartenstein, we'd be the same level as BOS.

I stand by that comment. I think those two with this 6 would just absolutely destroy teams. Hot take am I right
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Post#139 » by sol537 » Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:54 pm

dakomish23 wrote:When we traded for KAT, besides being excited for KAT & being upset Randle couldn't get a chance w/ this new roster since his signing started it all, my takeaway was that if we had used Mitch instead of DDV and somehow kept Hartenstein, we'd be the same level as BOS.

I stand by that comment. I think those two with this 6 would just absolutely destroy teams. Hot take am I right


That's not a hot take at all... DDV and iHart were great players here and if both were still here instead of, let's say, Mitch, Precious, and Deuce/Payne... we're easily on the level of CLE/BOS/OKC. Even with Thibs at the helm. iHart / KAT / OG / Mikal / Brunson with Hart & DDV as your two bench weapons is absolutely devastating and improves our current weaknesses tremendously (defense, 3pt volume, more playmaking, more offensive boards, more "heart")... We could beat anyone. Plus, OKC would be weaker sans iHart...
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Post#140 » by Capn'O » Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:13 pm

dakomish23 wrote:When we traded for KAT, besides being excited for KAT & being upset Randle couldn't get a chance w/ this new roster since his signing started it all, my takeaway was that if we had used Mitch instead of DDV and somehow kept Hartenstein, we'd be the same level as BOS.

I stand by that comment. I think those two with this 6 would just absolutely destroy teams. Hot take am I right


I mean, yeah, we'd be a lot better. But we couldn't pay iHart and the Wolves had no use for Mitch with Gobert and Reid in tow.
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