Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Petty sarcasm/condescension aside, what you're not understanding is he was not a U.S. citizen. Meaning, even if he wasn't supposed to go to El Salvador (which was only based on the gang violence which has ended with Bukele anyways), he can't be brought back to the United States, because he is not a citizen. It would be against the law.
It's not petty sarcasm. You'll know when it is. I said that because you just genuinely seem to be confused about the way the law and government works. A federal judge gave an order for the president to facilitate his return to the US because he was denied due process. Multiple higher courts including the Supreme Court has backed it. Prior to that, the actual ruling was already not upheld. And you have repeatedly admitted this, in acknowledging that they sent him somewhere he was not supposed to go in the first place.
The fact that you ignore that a "mistake" was made (I don't think they made a mistake tbh, I think they sent him to El Salvador with malice) to jump into rants about illegals kind of says everything. Incompetence in the government doesn't matter and we can ignore it as long as they get "those people". And then you think we can further ignore the system of checks and balances as long as its hurting "those people".
He can go somewhere else, if they will take him, but not the United States. El Salvador is his home country, he is an El Salvador citizen. As Bukele pointed out in an interview at the White House, he's not going to send him back because he would literally have to smuggle him across our border and create an international incident.
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As explained above, that's not how any of this works, but ok.
Besides all this, if you actually read into the complaints from the judge and activists, they're not even attempting to argue he should not have been deported or that he was a U.S. citizen, they're solely focusing on "due process" because they have no grounds to stand on. Which is a travesty considering due process was all but ignored by the flood of illegal aliens that caused this situation in the first place. They come over millions at a time, get court dates that are backlogged for months and even years because of "due process". The entire thing is a mockery of justice, and the hypocrisy of it all gets called out succinctly here.
I'm very happy that you are now finally all caught up. << THAT was petty sarcasm. See, I'm actually honest about why I say things and the reasons behind the positions I take. Unlike...
Anyway, yes, this is about due process. Now on to the next hurdle. Your misunderstanding of what that actually means. A "flood of illegal aliens" has nothing to do with due process and more so with enforcement at the borders. Stop them there. But once inside, and if they go through the proper channels for things like declaring asylum, etc., they are entitled to due process. This is a fact and it is law. The problem that people are raising is that allowing this and the many other actions that this administration continues to take without regard for the law or constitution, you open the door for a complete abandonment on the US system of government and democracy.
If you think I'm clicking any links to watch proud racist Stephen Miller talk about whatever tf you think he's talking about, you are sadly mistaken. You are free to do so though, and it certainly checks out that a Trump supporter has no issue with or even likely agrees with someone like that.
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/raw-storyIf you read the CNN article, which is obviously still left biased but not far left progressive, it paints a clearer picture.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/17/us/lopez-gomez-citizen-detained-ice-florida/index.htmlThe driver and others in the vehicle were in the country illegally, and stated as such. Juan Carlos was unable to communicate, only fluent in a Mayan dialect as he lived in Mexico from 1 year old until very recently, which was the cause of the mixup. Again, this isn't people roaming the streets looking for anyone hispanic. This was a case where several occupants of a vehicle pulled over, who could not produce ID, openly admitted they were here illegally, and a third occupant who couldn't speak the language got mixed up. He was also subsequently released 48 hours later.
Umm using different words to describe the situation doesn't make it somehow not what it is. He was a US citizen that was detained to be deported. Again, we're talking about a situation where you are side by side seeing an administration ignore laws and the constitution to do what they want. Unapologetically making procedural errors and still standing on them. This is a slippery slope for many other Americans who are NOT just focused on causing pain to others. This could have easily went another way if the birth certificate wasn't on hand. Or if he had no other family to fight on his behalf. He, a US Citizen, could have easily been deported to wherever they, and then similarly told "oh well" if the administration simply felt like it, instead of being bound by our constitution and system of government. THAT is the concern.
What's not clicking? And why isn't it?
So unless you do not speak english/spanish and are riding around with other illegal aliens, I would wager you are highly, highly unlikely to be profiled the way you're suggesting.
Oh. Now I see. Yes I'm sure it's only Spanish speakers, and not those that speak Creole and look a certain way being accused of eating cats and dogs, or those that speak Portuguese and look a certain way.
What a joy to be able to lie through your teeth about profiling and its potential impacts because you come from a group that is not effected and never has been.
. He's brainwashed to think what he does as he takes in misinformation non stop all the time.