East Play-in Discussion & Game Thread: Hawks vs Heat for #8 (Fri 4/18)

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Re: East Play-in Discussion & Game Thread: Hawks vs Heat for #8 (Fri 4/18) 

Post#961 » by Rainwater » Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:13 am

rate_ wrote:Herro in these 2 play in games:

34/7/6 | 58/47/88 splits | +30

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Trae's Stats are so overrated. Dude shot 40% in both play in games and was 3 for 14 for the first 3 quarters of this game. I don't know how long the hawks will deal with this dude's inefficiencies.
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Post#962 » by NBA_is_cringe » Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:40 am

trae really sucks
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Re: East Play-in Discussion & Game Thread: Hawks vs Heat for #8 (Fri 4/18) 

Post#963 » by CP War Hawks » Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:44 am

Chuck Everett wrote:Great game. Not having Jalen Johnson, Capela and Nance was too much to overcome. A starter and two valuable backups in the frontcourt.


Is what it is mane. Atleast OO has stayed healthy to finish out the season, and he looked awesome out there.
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Re: East Play-in Discussion & Game Thread: Hawks vs Heat for #8 (Fri 4/18) 

Post#964 » by JujitsuFlip » Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:02 pm

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cavs4872 wrote:Play-in will never not be gross as hell. Congrats to the 10-seed Miami Heat being let into the playoffs. Let's just make the regular season even more insignificant. Ew.

Sounds like you’re scared to play Miami lol

So you love 37-win teams in the playoffs. Awesome.

Cavs have nothing to do with it. Play-in only made sense in the bubble.

If the 39-win Mavs get in over the 48-win Grizzlies that isn't weird to you?
But the other 2 options were the 39 win Bulls or 40 win Hawks. So i see your point but this season its hard to make.
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Re: East Play-in Discussion & Game Thread: Hawks vs Heat for #8 (Fri 4/18) 

Post#965 » by Ball4life32 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:29 pm

NBA_is_cringe wrote:trae really sucks

Yes can’t believe he can’t lead the 2nd youngest lineup in the league (younger than auburns) without his 2nd best player…clearly sucks. Trae is the hawks oldest starter but gets all the blame like hawks didn’t have multiple guys stink up last night.

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rate_ wrote:Herro in these 2 play in games:

34/7/6 | 58/47/88 splits | +30

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Trae's Stats are so overrated. Dude shot 40% in both play in games and was 3 for 14 for the first 3 quarters of this game. I don't know how long the hawks will deal with this dude's inefficiencies.

Let’s not act like hawks don’t get blown out without Trae and some dont care about clickbait stats like fg% for a small high volume PG.
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Re: East Play-in Discussion & Game Thread: Hawks vs Heat for #8 (Fri 4/18) 

Post#966 » by Stone » Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:43 pm

This matchup could have gone either way. I thought the Hawks were going to win it, but the Heat fought hard and made the right moves down the stretch. Congrats to the Heat for being the first 10 seed to make it into the playoffs.
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Post#967 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Sat Apr 19, 2025 3:39 pm

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I just struggle to understand how at this stage in the game, you can put forth so little effort.

That isnt to say he wasn’t trying to whole game of course, but man, this reminds me of the fumble in the Super Bowl where it’s right under Cam Newton and instead of trying to make a play he’s just chilling.
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Re: East Play-in Discussion & Game Thread: Hawks vs Heat for #8 (Fri 4/18) 

Post#968 » by Rainwater » Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:37 pm

Ball4life32 wrote:
NBA_is_cringe wrote:trae really sucks

Yes can’t believe he can’t lead the 2nd youngest lineup in the league (younger than auburns) without his 2nd best player…clearly sucks. Trae is the hawks oldest starter but gets all the blame like hawks didn’t have multiple guys stink up last night.

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rate_ wrote:Herro in these 2 play in games:

34/7/6 | 58/47/88 splits | +30

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Trae's Stats are so overrated. Dude shot 40% in both play in games and was 3 for 14 for the first 3 quarters of this game. I don't know how long the hawks will deal with this dude's inefficiencies.

Let’s not act like hawks don’t get blown out without Trae and some dont care about clickbait stats like fg% for a small high volume PG.



Trae’s TS percentage is not very good either. If Trae shoots at the very least shoots 45% from the field the hawks win last night’s game. Outside of the one fluke playoff run, Trae’s inefficiency is one of many reasons why the Hawks have not found success in the playoffs. You just are aren’t going to win many games when your best players consistently is shooting 40% from the field with a TS percentage of 53% in the playoffs. This is not even counting his lazy defense. Trae cannot be the best player for the hawks for them to find success.
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Re: East Play-in Discussion & Game Thread: Hawks vs Heat for #8 (Fri 4/18) 

Post#969 » by Ball4life32 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:45 pm

Rainwater wrote:
Ball4life32 wrote:
NBA_is_cringe wrote:trae really sucks

Yes can’t believe he can’t lead the 2nd youngest lineup in the league (younger than auburns) without his 2nd best player…clearly sucks. Trae is the hawks oldest starter but gets all the blame like hawks didn’t have multiple guys stink up last night.

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Trae's Stats are so overrated. Dude shot 40% in both play in games and was 3 for 14 for the first 3 quarters of this game. I don't know how long the hawks will deal with this dude's inefficiencies.

Let’s not act like hawks don’t get blown out without Trae and some dont care about clickbait stats like fg% for a small high volume PG.



Trae’s TS percentage is not very good either. If Trae shoots at the very least shoots 45% from the field the hawks win last night’s game. Outside of the one fluke playoff run, Trae’s inefficiency is one of many reasons why the Hawks have not found success in the playoffs. You just are aren’t going to win many games when your best players consistently is shooting 40% from the field with a TS percentage of 53% in the playoffs. This is not even counting his lazy defense. Trae cannot be the best player for the hawks for them to find success.

Disagree on the first part. Trae doesn’t need a high fg% to make a high impact offensively with his playmaking. He creates the most open looks in the nba and is 3rd ALL time in APG behind Magic and Stockton a stat not a lot talk about. His defense is a way bigger issue and the reason hawks have been mediocre since their run.

His efficiency has gone down too as he used to be 60 ts% player but hes still making a high impact of offense. I do agree hawks need Jalen or Risacher to be a legit all star next to them to make a big leap.
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Post#970 » by flytimes11 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:50 pm

For the majority of Traes hawks tenure the best players he has had have been Capela, Collins and dejounte Murray. We have seen almost every other guard in the league with all star help. Luka, maxey, Hali, Brunson, garland, dame, harden, and curry all have all star help. The hawks have never had depth besides the year they made the conference finals, since then Atl has traded Collins for 37 year old Rudy gay who retired, traded heurter for Justin holiday, traded Bogi for Terrance man and traded multiple unprotected firsts for Murray. They also missed on the cam reddish pick, missed on the hunter pick, missed on the aj griffin pick, possibly missed with Zacc who was terrible in the play in games. How can any of this be put on Trae? If anything he has overachieved, nobody else could lead the league in assists with this roster. We saw MVP Jokic get swept without Porter Jr and Murray but Trae supposed to win with what he has. The 3 times Trae has made the playoffs the team he lost to went to the finals. Heat, Bucks and Celtics.
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Re: East Play-in Discussion & Game Thread: Hawks vs Heat for #8 (Fri 4/18) 

Post#971 » by Rainwater » Sat Apr 19, 2025 9:35 pm

Ball4life32 wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
Ball4life32 wrote:Yes can’t believe he can’t lead the 2nd youngest lineup in the league (younger than auburns) without his 2nd best player…clearly sucks. Trae is the hawks oldest starter but gets all the blame like hawks didn’t have multiple guys stink up last night.


Let’s not act like hawks don’t get blown out without Trae and some dont care about clickbait stats like fg% for a small high volume PG.



Trae’s TS percentage is not very good either. If Trae shoots at the very least shoots 45% from the field the hawks win last night’s game. Outside of the one fluke playoff run, Trae’s inefficiency is one of many reasons why the Hawks have not found success in the playoffs. You just are aren’t going to win many games when your best player is consistently shooting 40% from the field with a TS percentage of 53% in the playoffs. This is not even counting his lazy defense. Trae cannot be the best player for the hawks for them to find success.

Disagree on the first part. Trae doesn’t need a high fg% to make a high impact offensively with his playmaking. He creates the most open looks in the nba and is 3rd ALL time in APG behind Magic and Stockton a stat not a lot talk about. His defense is a way bigger issue and the reason hawks have been mediocre since their run.

His efficiency has gone down too as he used to be 60 ts% player but hes still making a high impact of offense. I do agree hawks need Jalen or Risacher to be a legit all star next to them to make a big leap.


I don’t know how many teams have won a title when the player taking the majority of the shots is shooting 40% and below from the field. It’s not a winning formula.

Yes, the hawks lack talent but Trae’s inefficiency and defense has hurt the hawks especially in the playoffs. This can’t be denied.
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Post#972 » by Ball4life32 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:25 pm

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Trae’s TS percentage is not very good either. If Trae shoots at the very least shoots 45% from the field the hawks win last night’s game. Outside of the one fluke playoff run, Trae’s inefficiency is one of many reasons why the Hawks have not found success in the playoffs. You just are aren’t going to win many games when your best player is consistently shooting 40% from the field with a TS percentage of 53% in the playoffs. This is not even counting his lazy defense. Trae cannot be the best player for the hawks for them to find success.

Disagree on the first part. Trae doesn’t need a high fg% to make a high impact offensively with his playmaking. He creates the most open looks in the nba and is 3rd ALL time in APG behind Magic and Stockton a stat not a lot talk about. His defense is a way bigger issue and the reason hawks have been mediocre since their run.

His efficiency has gone down too as he used to be 60 ts% player but hes still making a high impact of offense. I do agree hawks need Jalen or Risacher to be a legit all star next to them to make a big leap.


I don’t know how many teams have won a title when the player taking the majority of the shots is shooting 40% and below from the field. It’s not a winning formula.

Yes, the hawks lack talent but Trae’s inefficiency and defense has hurt the hawks especially in the playoffs. This can’t be denied.

Trae is a generational playmaker and already led hawks on a run before so it’s hard to compare him to anyone. Hawks talent is all young and Trae’s efficiency suffers because of it….i still would like to see now the team looks fully healthy. Hawks can’t afford multiple injuries to their rotation like we’ve seen last cpl of years.
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Re: East Play-in Discussion & Game Thread: Hawks vs Heat for #8 (Fri 4/18) 

Post#973 » by Rainwater » Sat Apr 19, 2025 11:47 pm

Ball4life32 wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
Ball4life32 wrote:Disagree on the first part. Trae doesn’t need a high fg% to make a high impact offensively with his playmaking. He creates the most open looks in the nba and is 3rd ALL time in APG behind Magic and Stockton a stat not a lot talk about. His defense is a way bigger issue and the reason hawks have been mediocre since their run.

His efficiency has gone down too as he used to be 60 ts% player but hes still making a high impact of offense. I do agree hawks need Jalen or Risacher to be a legit all star next to them to make a big leap.


I don’t know how many teams have won a title when the player taking the majority of the shots is shooting 40% and below from the field. It’s not a winning formula.

Yes, the hawks lack talent but Trae’s inefficiency and defense has hurt the hawks especially in the playoffs. This can’t be denied.

Trae is a generational playmaker and already led hawks on a run before so it’s hard to compare him to anyone. Hawks talent is all young and Trae’s efficiency suffers because of it….i still would like to see now the team looks fully healthy. Hawks can’t afford multiple injuries to their rotation like we’ve seen last cpl of years.


This run was 5 years ago since then he hasn’t done anything. And even with a healthy JJ was still pretty inefficient.
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Re: East Play-in Discussion & Game Thread: Hawks vs Heat for #8 (Fri 4/18) 

Post#974 » by cavs4872 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:16 am

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Wolfgang630 wrote:Sounds like you’re scared to play Miami lol

So you love 37-win teams in the playoffs. Awesome.

Cavs have nothing to do with it. Play-in only made sense in the bubble.

If the 39-win Mavs get in over the 48-win Grizzlies that isn't weird to you?
But the other 2 options were the 39 win Bulls or 40 win Hawks. So i see your point but this season its hard to make.

Well in the West it's easy to make.
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Post#975 » by Najeem27 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:16 am

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Re: East Play-in Discussion & Game Thread: Hawks vs Heat for #8 (Fri 4/18) 

Post#976 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Apr 20, 2025 3:04 am

cavs4872 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
cavs4872 wrote:So you love 37-win teams in the playoffs. Awesome.

Cavs have nothing to do with it. Play-in only made sense in the bubble.

If the 39-win Mavs get in over the 48-win Grizzlies that isn't weird to you?
But the other 2 options were the 39 win Bulls or 40 win Hawks. So i see your point but this season its hard to make.

Well in the West it's easy to make.
If it woulda happened but it didn't.
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Post#977 » by cavs4872 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:07 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
cavs4872 wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:But the other 2 options were the 39 win Bulls or 40 win Hawks. So i see your point but this season its hard to make.

Well in the West it's easy to make.
If it woulda happened but it didn't.

Meaning that the game never should've even existed in the first place.

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