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Post#61 » by Bernman » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:12 pm

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BroncoBuck wrote:Porter still played 30 minutes.

I don’t care about starting lineups. It means nothing in comparison to minutes played and the more important closing lineups.

The team won’t shoot this bad again. At least we suffered through our classic Bucks **** noon tipoff game. It feels like we always play like garbage in these early tips

Dude, digging yourself an early hole with a big and slow lineup doesn't mean nothing. They were getting open 3's because Prince and Lopez can't hang.


You mean coming back from 25 points, because you've played a sub-standard lineup for 3 extended periods in games, isn't a sustainable strategy? Isn't that how the 00's Spurs, 90's Bulls, & 80's Celtics built dynasties?
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Post#62 » by Prez » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:13 pm

The "it doesn't matter who starts, it's about minutes and who closes" stuff has to be one of the most irritating takes I've seen from Bucks fans the past however many weeks that this Prince/Kuzma bull **** has been happening. I don't see it as much here but I do elsewhere, I see it all the time and it is baffling. Like no, it actually does matter. Starting a garbage lineup each half that digs you into holes and lets the opposing team get into easy shooting rhythm absolutely can sink you. Like it did today.
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Post#63 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:13 pm

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ShootingtheJ wrote:I wonder what happened to the posters that told me adamantly that Kuzma was good? The NBAs worst regular season player is now the worst postseason player. Stay hot Horst

I had blind optimism his first few games, but know he just makes you want to be blind whenever he’s on the court


Yup, he's gauge your eyeballs out bad
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Post#64 » by MickeyDavis » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:15 pm

Prez wrote:The "it doesn't matter who starts, it's about minutes and who closes".

Under normal standards this is not unreasonable. But this isn't normal. The starting lineup is beyond bad. You can't dig out of 20+ holes in the playoffs.
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Post#65 » by CharityStripe34 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:16 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:And **** it, more Jericho and Pat at PF minutes. This ain’t a Prince/Bobby series.
Thought the same. Need more athleticism and movement.

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Post#66 » by FrieAaron » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:18 pm

On the plus side, between this and game 2 should be a great time to buy some good game 3 tickets cheap.
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Post#67 » by Prez » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:19 pm

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Prez wrote:The "it doesn't matter who starts, it's about minutes and who closes".

Under normal standards this is not unreasonable. But this isn't normal. The starting lineup is beyond bad. You can't dig out of 20+ holes in the playoffs.

Exactly. Starting a lineup that isn't your best lineup can be fine if it's still generally a very good lineup that makes sense, and you have a "death lineup" of sorts that you can lean into heavily and use in crucial stretches/4th quarters.

But if you're intentionally starting a DUMB lineup that by all objective evidence doesn't work, actively makes everything harder for your best player, and requires you to consistently dig out of holes, that's just coaching malpractice.
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Post#68 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:20 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote:And **** it, more Jericho and Pat at PF minutes. This ain’t a Prince/Bobby series.
Thought the same. Need more athleticism and movement.

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Sims would play for Brook. Bobby needs to make a 3, but other than the misses he didn't hurt us at all, we won his minutes because we got stops and rebounds.
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Post#69 » by ShootingtheJ » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:21 pm

Kuzma is just the 6th player in NBA playoff history with all zeros in 20 minutes.
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Post#70 » by nagawicka » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:23 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:I wonder what happened to the posters that told me adamantly that Kuzma was good? The NBAs worst regular season player is now the worst postseason player. Stay hot Horst

Relax, you only have to see these guys for 3 more games.
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Post#71 » by neiLz » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:23 pm

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neiLz wrote:Doc defending kuz and prince wtf

Is there a live stream?

Just had fan duel network on. Basically was asked why kuzma and prince had zero points. He said cuz they didn't pass the ball on offense.
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Post#72 » by CharityStripe34 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:25 pm

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CharityStripe34 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:And **** it, more Jericho and Pat at PF minutes. This ain’t a Prince/Bobby series.
Thought the same. Need more athleticism and movement.

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Sims would play for Brook. Bobby needs to make a 3, but other than the misses he didn't hurt us at all, we won his minutes because we got stops and rebounds.
True. He was at least active defensively and grabbed some boards. Would be nice if he can hit a couple open threes.

Bottom line is we were top 3 in 3pt efficiency and it takes Doc 2.5 quarters to start incorporating lineups with the actual shooters in there.

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Post#73 » by Karsenmitsche » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:26 pm

Doc in the presser saying the starters just need to move the ball more. Called Kuzma a good player who just didn't get enough touches :banghead:
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Post#74 » by drew881 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:26 pm

Prez wrote:The "it doesn't matter who starts, it's about minutes and who closes" stuff has to be one of the most irritating takes I've seen from Bucks fans the past however many weeks that this Prince/Kuzma bull **** has been happening. I don't see it as much here but I do elsewhere, I see it all the time and it is baffling. Like no, it actually does matter. Starting a garbage lineup each half that digs you into holes and lets the opposing team get into easy shooting rhythm absolutely can sink you. Like it did today.


The “it doesn’t matter who starts” usually assumes that those starters are at least somewhat playable.
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Post#75 » by nagawicka » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:27 pm

blazza18 wrote:Not going to win too many games when Giannis has more attempts from three than he does assists.

Not a serious organisation if you trade for Kyle Kuzma.

The Bucks' price for agreeing to the AJ Johnson-Kuzma trade was the Wizards had to take on Midds' contract. Never happen without adding in Midds.
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Post#76 » by blazza18 » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:27 pm

Read on Twitter


Was catching up on things and saw this. Dame coming back might give us a boost but not sure anything matters if we can’t find lineups that can get stop’s consistently.
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Post#77 » by neiLz » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:28 pm

Karsenmitsche wrote:Doc in the presser saying the starters just need to move the ball more. Called Kuzma a good player for us who just didn't get enough touches :banghead:

He's not changing anything.
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Post#78 » by PG Graveyard » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:28 pm

I still think Kuzma makes a lot of sense playing 4/5 next to Giannis but we are just never ever going to try it. It’s just an unreal bad fit in the starting lineup.
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Post#79 » by nagawicka » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:28 pm

Wonka wrote:
msiris wrote:
Chad34 wrote:Pat hit more threes than Bobby, TP and Kuzma combined
4 points for all 3 in over 60 minutes of play. Barf.


And somehow Bobby was the only guy who played real minutes, other than Sims, who was a positive +/- He was at least active on D and on the boards for our comeback unit.

Bobby might be fresh, but he sure wasn't in tune with an already synced-up roster.
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Post#80 » by Plossum » Sat Apr 19, 2025 8:29 pm

Impressive from Kooz to pull off a Snell in his first Playoff game for the Bucks.

The great irony is ppl said it’s at least better than having Midds in street clothes. Are we still so sure?
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