Anthony Black - Arkansas

[basketballRob]

Suggs is an even worse shooter than Black without pure PG skills. He does pressure the rim harder though which is why he still sees plenty of mins but effectively speaking in a vacuum AB is a way better PG.

really there is just a congestion in Orlando, even their best player Banchero has his issues with spacing and lack of versatility. they need to make a couple of moves before they stagnate the development of all these guys. Even Jett Howard can't see the floor and he at least theoretically should be giving them spacing.

I think Suggs will be a good shooter. He shot close to 90% from the FT line this season. When Paolo went out, Suggs went from getting open looks to trying to create looks. No doubt, if he was on the Celtics this season, he'd put up similar percentages as White.

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[clyde21]

Suggs is an even worse shooter than Black without pure PG skills. He does pressure the rim harder though which is why he still sees plenty of mins but effectively speaking in a vacuum AB is a way better PG.

really there is just a congestion in Orlando, even their best player Banchero has his issues with spacing and lack of versatility. they need to make a couple of moves before they stagnate the development of all these guys. Even Jett Howard can't see the floor and he at least theoretically should be giving them spacing.

I think Suggs will be a good shooter. He shot close to 90% from the FT line this season. When Paolo went out, Suggs went from getting open looks to trying to create looks. No doubt, if he was on the Celtics this season, he'd put up similar percentages as White.

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I dunno, 4th season and he just arguably had his worst shooting one, 31% from 3 on 7 attempts per is just not good, that's not to say Black is going to be a good shooter but as it stands right now it's tough for both of these guys to play together. one has to be moved, imo.

[basketballRob]

Suggs is an even worse shooter than Black without pure PG skills. He does pressure the rim harder though which is why he still sees plenty of mins but effectively speaking in a vacuum AB is a way better PG.

really there is just a congestion in Orlando, even their best player Banchero has his issues with spacing and lack of versatility. they need to make a couple of moves before they stagnate the development of all these guys. Even Jett Howard can't see the floor and he at least theoretically should be giving them spacing.

I think Suggs will be a good shooter. He shot close to 90% from the FT line this season. When Paolo went out, Suggs went from getting open looks to trying to create looks. No doubt, if he was on the Celtics this season, he'd put up similar percentages as White.

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I dunno, 4th season and he just arguably had his worst shooting one, 31% from 3 on 7 attempts per is just not good, that's not to say Black is going to be a good shooter but as it stands right now it's tough for both of these guys to play together. one has to be moved, imo.

Suggs shot around 40% from 3 last season. He only played like 6 games with Paolo this season. It was pretty glaring how bad his looks were after Paolo went out. It was the same with Black. Black is shooting around 39% with Paolo on the floor but struggled the months Paolo was out.

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[JT3000]

I think you're making an excuse for someone else's comment. You changed the argument. Unless Black can shoot there simply is no comparison between him and Derrick White. So get back to me when that happens.

the poster clearly said he views his role as similar to White's with the Celtics, which is a reasonable take. He then said he could end up as good as White. Not that he is the same exact player but his impact would match what White provides? Do people really need to spell things out for everyone?

Why are you coping so hard?

Why are you trolling so hard?

I am not a fan of Black and White comparisons.

But if you're thinkin' about my baby, it don't matter if you're Black or White.

[EvanZ]

The fact they are starting Corey Joseph over Black tells me something.

[ReggiesKnicks]

The fact they are starting Corey Joseph over Black tells me something.

They don't trust Black's shooting so much that they are punting defensively. Not sure I agree with it, but this is what it tells me.

[QingJames]

Yeah, Corey Joseph with 26 minutes, Cole Anthony with 10 and Black with 13 tells you that the coaching staff doesn’t trust Black at all and doesn’t think he’s conducive to winning.

He’s a one way player. He’ll need to develop some semblance of an offensive game and quick, or he’ll earn the bust label.

[basketballRob]

Yeah, Corey Joseph with 26 minutes, Cole Anthony with 10 and Black with 13 tells you that the coaching staff doesn’t trust Black at all and doesn’t think he’s conducive to winning.

He’s a one way player. He’ll need to develop some semblance of an offensive game and quick, or he’ll earn the bust label.

He's a young guard in his first meaningful playoff game, is what it means. Coaches always lean on vets in those situations.

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[basketballRob]

The fact they are starting Corey Joseph over Black tells me something.

Can you name some guards who started in the playoffs during their 20-21 year old season?

I'm just curious: Are you the Warriors fan who kept coming to the Magic board because Moody looked better than Franz in his first summer league? I think there were a couple Warriors fans who were sure Moody was better.

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[QingJames]

Yeah, Corey Joseph with 26 minutes, Cole Anthony with 10 and Black with 13 tells you that the coaching staff doesn’t trust Black at all and doesn’t think he’s conducive to winning.

He’s a one way player. He’ll need to develop some semblance of an offensive game and quick, or he’ll earn the bust label.

He's a young guard in his first meaningful playoff game, is what it means. Coaches always lean on vets in those situations.

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Corey Joseph is so bad now he couldn’t even make team Canada, bud. He was getting abused out there by Boston. And they still didn’t put Black in because he’s somehow worse.

[EvanZ]

The fact they are starting Corey Joseph over Black tells me something.

Can you name some guards who started in the playoffs during their 20-21 year old season?

I'm just curious: Are you the Warriors fan who kept coming to the Magic board because Moody looked better than Franz in his first summer league? I think there were a couple Warriors fans who were sure Moody was better.

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Bro, Moody was better than CoJo last year. Lmao

[ReggiesKnicks]

Yeah, Corey Joseph with 26 minutes, Cole Anthony with 10 and Black with 13 tells you that the coaching staff doesn’t trust Black at all and doesn’t think he’s conducive to winning.

He’s a one way player. He’ll need to develop some semblance of an offensive game and quick, or he’ll earn the bust label.

He's a young guard in his first meaningful playoff game, is what it means. Coaches always lean on vets in those situations.

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Corey Joseph is so bad now he couldn’t even make team Canada, bud. He was getting abused out there by Boston. And they still didn’t put Black in because he’s somehow worse.

Joseph would have been better than Murray for Canada at the Olympics

[ReggiesKnicks]

Yeah, Corey Joseph with 26 minutes, Cole Anthony with 10 and Black with 13 tells you that the coaching staff doesn’t trust Black at all and doesn’t think he’s conducive to winning.

He’s a one way player. He’ll need to develop some semblance of an offensive game and quick, or he’ll earn the bust label.

He's a young guard in his first meaningful playoff game, is what it means. Coaches always lean on vets in those situations.

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Corey Joseph is so bad now he couldn’t even make team Canada, bud. He was getting abused out there by Boston. And they still didn’t put Black in because he’s somehow worse.

Joseph would have been better than Murray for Canada at the Olympics

[QingJames]

He's a young guard in his first meaningful playoff game, is what it means. Coaches always lean on vets in those situations.

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Corey Joseph is so bad now he couldn’t even make team Canada, bud. He was getting abused out there by Boston. And they still didn’t put Black in because he’s somehow worse.

Joseph would have been better than Murray for Canada at the Olympics

Murray had a bad run, no doubt. No GM is taking Corey Joseph for Jamal Murray. I’ve got a lot of love for Corey but the fact that he was cut after all his years of service and loyalty to Team Canada tells you he is well and truly washed.

And yet the Magic coaching staff believes Anthony Black is much worse than a washed Corey Joseph.

[Braggins]

Black tends to play fewer minutes in games where he doesn't play well. He played poorly last night so he didn't play as much as he normally does down the stretch.

[SeattleJazzFan]

bottom line for black. he's a role player who contributes to winning and you can never have enough of those guys on your team. essentially he's the magic's version of derrick white and has a chance to be that good someday. he's already doing those same sorts of things out on the court. taking care of the ball, defending, taking good shots, making plays for teammates, moving without the ball, etc.

Yeah about comparing Anthony Black to a dude who just averaged 38% on 9 3PA per game...

Derrick White was 2 years older than Black is right now when he was drafted and averaged 3.2 ppg his first season. I think the poster meant eventually and not essentially.

Defensively, he's comparable to White right now.

https://youtu.be/JHONwO-V6VU?si=mzjN6H7NzcWooos4

https://youtu.be/sevKJ_sFFSw?si=Q7PV9_CKU-uv1Y3O

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evan may have trouble with reading comprehension. i literally said he has a chance to be that good someday. i never said they are currently the exact same player.

even saying he is essentially the magic's version of derrick white, i clarified what i meant by that by mentioning some of the ways in which they are similar.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Do you think White is better defensively? Black us a little higher in DBPM and White is a little higher in defensive EPM.

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I think you're making an excuse for someone else's comment. You changed the argument. Unless Black can shoot there simply is no comparison between him and Derrick White. So get back to me when that happens.

the poster clearly said he views his role as similar to White's with the Celtics, which is a reasonable take. He then said he could end up as good as White. Not that he is the same exact player but his impact would match what White provides? Do people really need to spell things out for everyone?

thank you for that. thank you for knowing how to read and understand what you're reading.

[JMAC3]

Derrick White is a pretty big outlier of a player, really shouldn't be used when trying to make player comps. Especially age related comps because of his unique journey.

If you are making a case for Black I think Dyson Daniels would be the more realistic comp but even still Dyson has always been the better defender and had showed a better offensive game while being bigger and a better athlete. Also, Dyson is probably an exception as the number of guys who randomly breakout in year 3 are low, maybe Black gets moved and some team unlocks him but again that would be closer to exception than expectation for a player for what he has shown through 2 years.

[EvanZ]

Yeah about comparing Anthony Black to a dude who just averaged 38% on 9 3PA per game...

Derrick White was 2 years older than Black is right now when he was drafted and averaged 3.2 ppg his first season. I think the poster meant eventually and not essentially.

Defensively, he's comparable to White right now.

https://youtu.be/JHONwO-V6VU?si=mzjN6H7NzcWooos4

https://youtu.be/sevKJ_sFFSw?si=Q7PV9_CKU-uv1Y3O

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evan may have trouble with reading comprehension. i literally said he has a chance to be that good someday. i never said they are currently the exact same player.

even saying he is essentially the magic's version of derrick white, i clarified what i meant by that by mentioning some of the ways in which they are similar.

You said literally he’s “essentially the Magic’s version of Derrick White.” Your words. Literally. Maybe you don’t know what “literally” means.

[azcatz11]

Why are people interested in talking about him? His thread is as long as cades, cooper Flagg, etc. I have a feeling Ace Bailey is going to follow a similar trajectory next year