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Post#161 » by Bucknado » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:26 am

Does Horst survive regardless of what happens? Khris and AJ for Kuz looks pretty damn rough. I know Khris’ value wasn’t great but Kuz looks like a straight negative. He’s lucky he turned MJB into Scoot.
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Post#162 » by blazza18 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:31 am

TroyD92 wrote:Lot of talk about kuzma, but somehow I think TP is even worse


Yeah, it's definitely close between the two because of how we use him. Think he could be a much more useful player with a smaller/different role.
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Post#163 » by Matches Malone » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:31 am

Bucknado wrote:Does Horst survive regardless of what happens? Khris and AJ for Kuz looks pretty damn rough. I know Khris’ value wasn’t great but Kuz looks like a straight negative. He’s lucky he turned MJB into Scoot.


I honestly get a weird feeling that the Kuz deal was more of a Doc idea than Horst. Not to say Horst is free of any criticism but his power seems limited after the owners went over his head to hire Doc over Horsts preferred option, Atkinson.

That being said, we probably need a fresh perspective in the GM seat. I just worry it's going to be Doc as POBO and we end up way worse off than if we just stuck with Horst.
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Post#164 » by Plossum » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:36 am

I swear some folk are only seeing this team for the first time. We’ve been atrocious all year. Winning this was always going to be difficult against a very good Indy team.

While not over, it’s naive to think we’re the better team.
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Post#165 » by stillgotgame » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:45 am

CJTURT wrote:Pick the best team right now in the NBA and put Doc rivers on there and he would run them right into the dirt


Taylor Jenkins and Mike Malone are available.
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Post#166 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:56 am

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CJTURT wrote:Pick the best team right now in the NBA and put Doc rivers on there and he would run them right into the dirt


Taylor Jenkins and Mike Malone are available.

Many pine for them but I'd pass
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Post#167 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:01 am

it makes me every year we have a guy like Giannis gather so much gravity and we can't make them pay by shooting 40%+ from 3. so many games we shoot sub 25% as a team
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Post#168 » by Vasquectomy » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:16 am

Only got to page 6 so maybe this has been covered.

I’m wondering about all of the “look what happens when you give the ball to Giannis” over the past few weeks… this game felt like traditional bad Bucks playoffs. Stand around and let Giannis do his thing.
Today’s issue wasn’t just Giannis not passing, It was Gianni’s taking what was offered to him. Seems like the Pacers decided to take away the Buck’s handoff ball movement offense and then tighten up on outside shooters. They sat on Giannis’s preferred kick-outs and dated people into the paint.

At the same time, there was a pretty soft underbelly to if the abu is got there m. Lopez had a couple of awkwardly successful drives to the rim, but maybe KPJ, Sims or bizarro Kuzma might have more consistent luck diving to the rim off of Giannis.

On the other side, drop defense and slow wings are problems. Also, allowing easy ball movement for open 3s on the road didn’t work in the regular season. Not surprised that was the ticket to a blowout loss today.
Finally, was that Doc or Carlyle’s doing to get AJ Green on post defense positions, He held up pretty well, but that’s a minor victory in the grand scheme of the game.



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Post#169 » by -Jragon- » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:16 am

Anti Kuzma dudes think we need less Kuz but we need better Kuz instead... besides ga, kuz and KPJ everyone we have is either a plodder or midget... those 3 have the size, speed and length to bother all those 3s they get.. as soon as Bobby is in they suddenly are wide open everytime.. this isn't a Bobby series. Kuz get your head out yo as$
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Post#170 » by bucksfansince88 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:20 am

-Jragon- wrote:Anti Kuzma dudes think we need less Kuz but we need better Kuz instead... besides ga, kuz and KPJ everyone we have is either a plodder or midget... those 3 have the size, speed and length to bother all those 3s they get.. as soon as Bobby is in they suddenly are wide open everytime.. this isn't a Bobby series. Kuz get your head out yo as$


He looked lazy out there! Piss poor effort on D, except for Green
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Post#171 » by nagawicka » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:22 am

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Coach maxed your minutes, huh. What was your +/-

-12, but I logged all my minutes with the cat and she doesn’t handle playoff pressure.

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Post#172 » by -Jragon- » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:22 am

Besides that we have to pick our poison.. when they are at home them 3s are wet.. I'd stay sticky on them shooters.. don't collapseband try to make them beat us mid range by stopping Siakim/Hali/Math etc on their dribble. At the BC maybe they'll be off on the 3s so then collapse
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Post#173 » by -Jragon- » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:25 am

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-Jragon- wrote:Anti Kuzma dudes think we need less Kuz but we need better Kuz instead... besides ga, kuz and KPJ everyone we have is either a plodder or midget... those 3 have the size, speed and length to bother all those 3s they get.. as soon as Bobby is in they suddenly are wide open everytime.. this isn't a Bobby series. Kuz get your head out yo as$


He looked lazy out there! Piss poor effort on D, except for Green


I agree but this is the dude we need to challenge those shots or we're in trouble.. as many kpj/ga/kuz minutes as possible . Someone light a fire under his as$.. idc if he shoots.. we need those defensive flashes we saw
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Post#174 » by -Jragon- » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:27 am

They lose Bobby like he falls into quick sand on any switch.. he's not the one.. he's going to lose this series for us
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Post#175 » by -Jragon- » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:27 am

Next series would be a Bobby series. Indy flies around
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Post#176 » by jschligs » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:31 am

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:it makes me every year we have a guy like Giannis gather so much gravity and we can't make them pay by shooting 40%+ from 3. so many games we shoot sub 25% as a team


I know teams shoot worse in the playoffs. But the Bucks seem to shoot FAR worse than any other team come playoffs. So many god awful shooting nights and the looks are usually decent or open giving Giannis' gravity like you mentioned.
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Post#177 » by stillgotgame » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:31 am

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stillgotgame wrote:
CJTURT wrote:Pick the best team right now in the NBA and put Doc rivers on there and he would run them right into the dirt


Taylor Jenkins and Mike Malone are available.

Many pine for them but I'd pass


How about Sam Cassell?

Or we need a 1990’s Don Nelson. He’d run a lineup of:
Giannis- point center
AJJ as energy PF
GTJ
KPJ
AJG

Still probably wouldn’t win much but would be fun as hell to watch!
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Post#178 » by -Jragon- » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:32 am

Dame back relegates Kuz to the corner...

This also isn't a Giannis as pg series .. he needs to catch somewhere else against them
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Post#179 » by -Jragon- » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:34 am

If kuz only shoots corner 3s this series on O we're probably better
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Post#180 » by soxperry » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:35 am

I think the thing im now praying for most is a Kpj opt in with long-term promise, and then use the full mle on a proven guy. We just really need more actual dudes.

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