2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East First Round: #3 New York Knicks vs #6 Detroit Pistons (Series tied 1-1)

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Who'll Win the Series?

Poll ended at Mon Apr 21, 2025 12:27 pm

Knicks, via SWEEP!
20
7%
Knicks, 4-1
61
23%
Knicks, 4-2
80
30%
Knicks, 4-3
27
10%
Pistons, 4-3
24
9%
Pistons, 4-2
47
17%
Pistons, 4-1
4
1%
Pistons, via SWEEP!
8
3%
 
Total votes: 271

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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS East First Round: #3 New York Knicks vs #6 Detroit Pistons 

Post#581 » by jokeboy86 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:55 am

MrBigShot wrote:
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jasonxxx102 wrote:Piston fans get the JB experience in game 1.

This is what your entire playoff experience will be with this guy. 0 offense when the games matter. Nothing but iso ball and bad basketball.

Cavs fans know this all too well.
Tried to warn em, they didn't wanna hear it lolololol


This loss had nothing to do Bickerstaff. Our young guys made a ton of dumb mistakes and Duren cant defend a traffic cone


Yeah but thats on the coach to settle them down and calm their nerves. Especially since they dont have any veterans with significant winning playoff experience.
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Post#582 » by Clincher » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:56 am

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picc wrote:What just happened bro.


Pistons only veteran presence is Harris and Hardaway. Neither are pgs so I dont know who's going to get them to settle down on the floor.

Dennis had moments in the 3rd quarter but yeah the bigs are really inexperienced and vs Towns/Mitch Robinson, it's becoming the difference.
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Post#583 » by Butch718 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:56 am

Kat played like he heard the disrespect all week. The 4th was the best he’s looked defensively all year.
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Post#584 » by sp6r=underrated » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:56 am

RB34 wrote:Anyone got the stats on when a team was last called for 3 defensive 3 seconds in a single game?


anyone got stats about whining about fouls when their team shot 3 more free throws total
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Post#585 » by RB34 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:57 am

sp6r=underrated wrote:
RB34 wrote:Anyone got the stats on when a team was last called for 3 defensive 3 seconds in a single game?


anyone got stats about whining about fouls when their team shot 3 more free throws total


I’m not a Pistons fan and you barely ever see that call.
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Post#586 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:58 am

jokeboy86 wrote:This doesnt bode well for the Rockets who are also a very young team whose in the playoffs for the first time. Thankfully Udoka is a better coach than Bickerstaff.

It has more to do with the weight of the moment than anything else. Udoka has to coach them through it. For these young teams the pressure builds and every decision is magnified. It takes a little bit to get them going.
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Post#587 » by Dennis Reynolds » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:58 am

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scrabbarista wrote:Man, I've only been peeking in from time to time, but from what I've seen, it's looked like the league 100% decided who was going to win this one. Interesting that it's the same lead ref from the last game I watched in which the league picked the winner beforehand.


No they haven't, stop talking nonsense.


Obviously, I could be missing some of the story, but when you see a few calls that are 80%, 95% of the time called a certain way, and they're called the other way, that's usually a good clue.


When you miss 80%, 95% of the game and you still come in here just to bitch about the refs cause the team you prefer is losing is not only annoying but also very typical of you.
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Post#588 » by Statlanta » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:59 am

___Rand___ wrote:
jokeboy86 wrote:This doesnt bode well for the Rockets who are also a very young team whose in the playoffs for the first time. Thankfully Udoka is a better coach than Bickerstaff.


Udoka isn't the only difference. The vets on Rockets are the leaders. The young players (Cade) are the leaders for Pistons. That makes a huge difference too.


Agreed. Feel the same way with Memphis

Way better feeling with Vanvleet/Adams as offenisive and defensive leaders

vs.

Morant/Jackson Jr.(or Edey), Cunningham/Duren
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Post#589 » by BrianInPhilly » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:00 am

sp6r=underrated wrote:Why wouldn't you challenge that? Coaches really overvalue timeouts relative to possession


Seriously. Made no sense - Saving a Timeout? What stupid logic, you're down 6 and need the ball.

I'm sorry but I don't buy the "inexperience" excuse for Detroit in the 4th - It was inexcusable lack of focus throughout the quarter ... countless lack of concentration ... The inbound pass, being blown by on defense, not being in defensive stance, not boxing out, not knowing where you help is, throwing the ball away, not being strong with the ball etc etc. C'mon. It's the 4th quarter of a playoff game on the road - You knew Knicks were gonna go hard; Detroit just gave up playing hard mentally.

Not saying "inexperience" doesn't matter. But define it correctly - It's "inexperience" + weak-minded attitudes. Not all young teams fall apart at the end of playoff games (OKC for example). Just saying "inexperience" lets the guys off the hook.
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Post#590 » by CKB » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:00 am

Beasley doing a shimmy will haunt him. He is no Curry. That lit the Knicks up for the comeback.
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Post#591 » by Revived » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:01 am

RB34 wrote:
sp6r=underrated wrote:
RB34 wrote:Anyone got the stats on when a team was last called for 3 defensive 3 seconds in a single game?


anyone got stats about whining about fouls when their team shot 3 more free throws total


I’m not a Pistons fan and you barely ever see that call.

Probably cause usually teams aren’t dumb enough to keep committing that violation after the first two times.
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Post#592 » by Revived » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:02 am

Knicks could sweep this but most likely they win in 5.
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Post#593 » by Revived » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:04 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:
jokeboy86 wrote:This loss is on Bickerstaff. There's no way you allow a 21-0 run if you're a coach. Its on you to settle the team down
He's clueless.

He’s like a Mark Jackson or Scott Brooks…good coach to turn things around for a franchise but you need to fire them and get someone once becoming a playoff team if you want to become a contender.
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Post#594 » by AFM » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:07 am

absolutely obliterated my guy
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Post#595 » by sp6r=underrated » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:07 am

infinite11285 wrote:Putrid effort in the 4th by the Pistons. I don't believed they executed a single play the entire quarter.


They made the Knicks look like the thunder on D.
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Post#596 » by jasonxxx102 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:08 am

MrBigShot wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
jasonxxx102 wrote:Piston fans get the JB experience in game 1.

This is what your entire playoff experience will be with this guy. 0 offense when the games matter. Nothing but iso ball and bad basketball.

Cavs fans know this all too well.
Tried to warn em, they didn't wanna hear it lolololol


This loss had nothing to do Bickerstaff. Our young guys made a ton of dumb mistakes and Duren cant defend a traffic cone


You say that now until you get to see it over and over and over again.

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Post#597 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:10 am

Revived wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:
jokeboy86 wrote:This loss is on Bickerstaff. There's no way you allow a 21-0 run if you're a coach. Its on you to settle the team down
He's clueless.

He’s like a Mark Jackson or Scott Brooks…good coach to turn things around for a franchise but you need to fire them and get someone once becoming a playoff team if you want to become a contender.
100%. He's a great floor raiser.

But playing harder than people and preaching fundamentals only goes so far when there are no back to backs and the opposition is solely game planning for you.

bickerstaff will never figure it out, same story with every team he's ever been the head coach of.
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Post#598 » by sp6r=underrated » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:14 am

jasonxxx102 wrote:
MrBigShot wrote:
JujitsuFlip wrote:Tried to warn em, they didn't wanna hear it lolololol


This loss had nothing to do Bickerstaff. Our young guys made a ton of dumb mistakes and Duren cant defend a traffic cone


You say that now until you get to see it over and over and over again.

Don't worry, it may take you 4 years like it took some Cavs fans but you'll get it


He helped the Pistons make a tremendous improvement this year.
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Post#599 » by Wingy » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:18 am

:lol:

People putting tons of blame on the coach cause a first-time playoff team whose 2nd best shot creator is…Tobias Harris…or Dennis Schroder…and struggles mightily to score vs a top 5 defense at home that’s turning it up a notch.
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Post#600 » by ElectricMayhem » Sun Apr 20, 2025 1:21 am

Even up 7, I knew the game was over with the 5-second violation to start the 4th. And then doubly so with the 24-second violation on the very next possession. The game was too big for them. It's still night and day from where they were last year, though. They'll learn - it's a process.
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