Cooper Flagg -- Season 1 thread

Darren · Post #41 » by **Darren** » Sat Apr 19, 2025 11:51 am

41Dirk41 wrote:I want Dumont, Harrison, Kidd, PJ and Dinwiddie out of the state. Thank you.

Trade them to Pheonix for Durant. To match the salary, you have to add more.

Darren · Post #42 » by **Darren** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 9:06 am

Jeremy Fears sounds like a solid pick.

Darren · Post #43 » by **Darren** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 9:25 am

I don't think Fears is still available there. I think Lamelo Ball should be the first option with KD being a close secondn

Darren · Post #44 » by **Darren** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 9:27 am

The draft prospects available are faulted beyond the top few. I think many team may trade the pick.

Darren · Post #45 » by **Darren** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 9:50 am

Let's be honest. Are any playmaking guards available performing better than Max? If not, just add strength and more consistent jumpers from Max. I think there're quite some PJ, Maxi or Gafford type of players available at 12, though.

arkuo · Post #46 » by **arkuo** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 4:25 pm

Darren wrote:Let's be honest. Are any playmaking guards available performing better than Max? If not, just add strength and more consistent jumpers from Max. I think there're quite some PJ, Maxi or Gafford type of players available at 12, though.

Let's be real. Jason Kidd is not handing over a starting spot to a 19 year old guard. Any rookie the Mavs draft here will still come off the bench. Unless by some sort of miracle they draft Cooper Flagg. Otherwise it's still off the bench.

A playmaking big guard can be had in the summer via trade. And as much as I hate D Angelo Russell, he fits that mold because the Mavs are desperate. He's 6'4 so he's bigger than Kyrie. Can play 2 guard. Very poor defense and not really a great shooter. Has a relationship with AD but that's pretty much it. Nothing impressive so far.

Teffer10 · Post #47 » by **Teffer10** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 1:01 pm

Hell, I'm beginning to think we should just take Maluach.
He will be immediately useful and would allow us to move Gafford for a veteran guard or playmaker. We'd still have a solid center rotation with both on rookie contracts.

Astaluego · Post #48 » by **Astaluego** » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:36 am

I like Jakucionis in the Mavs range, wish he was there + a CP3 signing or a Martin/Gafford (3 team) trade for Smart?

Darren · Post #49 » by **Darren** » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:48 am

Teffer10 wrote:Hell, I'm beginning to think we should just take Maluach.
He will be immediately useful and would allow us to move Gafford for a veteran guard or playmaker. We'd still have a solid center rotation with both on rookie contracts.

I think I lane towards finding replacement for PJ instead of Gafford. The Mavs need someone who can bang and make game changing plays. PJ, meanwhile, has injured a lot last season. At 6-7, PJ lacks the ideal size to be a stopper. PJ falls rather convincingly against Morant. I'd explore trade for KD or Isaac.

Of course, if Gafford expects higher offer, I think the Mavs has to move on.

arkuo · Post #50 » by **arkuo** » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:27 pm

If the Mavs move up in the draft, it's Adam Silver compensating for the trade. 100% rigged IMO.

If it was rigged, Silver would need to send compensation to pacify a fanbase that felt cheated. If he gives Dallas a top 10 pick, he just might save Nico's life.

Teffer10 · Post #51 » by **Teffer10** » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:31 pm

Darren wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Hell, I'm beginning to think we should just take Maluach.
He will be immediately useful and would allow us to move Gafford for a veteran guard or playmaker. We'd still have a solid center rotation with both on rookie contracts.

I think I lane towards finding replacement for PJ instead of Gafford. The Mavs need someone who can bang and make game changing plays. PJ, meanwhile, has injured a lot last season. At 6-7, PJ lacks the ideal size to be a stopper. PJ falls rather convincingly against Morant. I'd explore trade for KD or Isaac.

Of course, if Gafford expects higher offer, I think the Mavs has to move on.

It would take PJ/Gafford/Klay to get Durant and I'd be out on that. Problem is I have a feeling Nico will make a similar deal.

dirkules_41 · Post #52 » by **dirkules_41** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 8:43 am

arkuo wrote:If the Mavs move up in the draft, it's Adam Silver compensating for the trade. 100% rigged IMO.

If it was rigged, Silver would need to send compensation to pacify a fanbase that felt cheated. If he gives Dallas a top 10 pick, he just might save Nico's life.

Unless we're getting the #1 pick and Cooper it's a lousy effort of consolation

arkuo · Post #53 » by **arkuo** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 9:16 am

dirkules_41 wrote:
arkuo wrote:If the Mavs move up in the draft, it's Adam Silver compensating for the trade. 100% rigged IMO.

If it was rigged, Silver would need to send compensation to pacify a fanbase that felt cheated. If he gives Dallas a top 10 pick, he just might save Nico's life.

Unless we're getting the #1 pick and Cooper it's a lousy effort of consolation

Agreed. But hey, it's the Mavs. So keep the expectations low.

dirkules_41 · Post #54 » by **dirkules_41** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 2:58 pm

arkuo wrote:
dirkules_41 wrote:
arkuo wrote:If the Mavs move up in the draft, it's Adam Silver compensating for the trade. 100% rigged IMO.

If it was rigged, Silver would need to send compensation to pacify a fanbase that felt cheated. If he gives Dallas a top 10 pick, he just might save Nico's life.

Unless we're getting the #1 pick and Cooper it's a lousy effort of consolation

Agreed. But hey, it's the Mavs. So keep the expectations low.

They'd trade him for two 2nds.

arkuo · Post #55 » by **arkuo** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 3:13 pm

dirkules_41 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
dirkules_41 wrote:Unless we're getting the #1 pick and Cooper it's a lousy effort of consolation

Agreed. But hey, it's the Mavs. So keep the expectations low.

They'd trade him for two 2nds.

The deal has been made even before he wears the cap on stage.

Mr B · Post #56 » by **Mr B** » Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:08 am

Astaluego wrote:I like Jakucionis in the Mavs range, wish he was there + a CP3 signing or a Martin/Gafford (3 team) trade for Smart?

Draft Jakucionis and trade for Colin Sexton. Sexton would be easier to acquire.

Mr B · Post #57 » by **Mr B** » Thu Apr 24, 2025 3:42 am

Teffer10 wrote:
Darren wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:Hell, I'm beginning to think we should just take Maluach.
He will be immediately useful and would allow us to move Gafford for a veteran guard or playmaker. We'd still have a solid center rotation with both on rookie contracts.

I think I lane towards finding replacement for PJ instead of Gafford. The Mavs need someone who can bang and make game changing plays. PJ, meanwhile, has injured a lot last season. At 6-7, PJ lacks the ideal size to be a stopper. PJ falls rather convincingly against Morant. I'd explore trade for KD or Isaac.

Of course, if Gafford expects higher offer, I think the Mavs has to move on.

It would take PJ/Gafford/Klay to get Durant and I'd be out on that. Problem is I have a feeling Nico will make a similar deal.

That’s the package I think they do offer to the Suns. Gafford’s contract is coming up and he deserves to get paid. I’d prefer it be with the Mavs but I think they offer him to the Suns.

Although I wouldn’t be surprised if they traded Gafford to the Lakers (for Reeves?) I know Luka would love to have Gafford to throw lobs to and the Mavs need a PG.

If the they do move Gafford they are going to need to find another defensive big. They found Gafford so hopefully they can find another big on someone’s roster.

Bob8 · Post #58 » by **Bob8** » Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:30 am

Mr B wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:
Darren wrote:
I think I lane towards finding replacement for PJ instead of Gafford. The Mavs need someone who can bang and make game changing plays. PJ, meanwhile, has injured a lot last season. At 6-7, PJ lacks the ideal size to be a stopper. PJ falls rather convincingly against Morant. I'd explore trade for KD or Isaac.

Of course, if Gafford expects higher offer, I think the Mavs has to move on.

It would take PJ/Gafford/Klay to get Durant and I'd be out on that. Problem is I have a feeling Nico will make a similar deal.

That’s the package I think they do offer to the Suns. Gafford’s contract is coming up and he deserves to get paid. I’d prefer it be with the Mavs but I think they offer him to the Suns.

Although I wouldn’t be surprised if they traded Gafford to the Lakers (for Reeves?) I know Luka would love to have Gafford to throw lobs to and the Mavs need a PG.

If the they do move Gafford they are going to need to find another defensive big. They found Gafford so hopefully they can find another big on someone’s roster.

Nico won't make another deal with Lakers, it would be laughable to give someone for a player he could have gotten in Luka's trade for free. Secondly, D wins championship, not exactly AR's forte. Thirdly, AR is white.

I'm very sceptical about KD wanting to come in Mavs' mess.

Mr B · Post #59 » by **Mr B** » Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:53 pm

Bob8 wrote:
Mr B wrote:
Teffer10 wrote:It would take PJ/Gafford/Klay to get Durant and I'd be out on that. Problem is I have a feeling Nico will make a similar deal.

That’s the package I think they do offer to the Suns. Gafford’s contract is coming up and he deserves to get paid. I’d prefer it be with the Mavs but I think they offer him to the Suns.

Although I wouldn’t be surprised if they traded Gafford to the Lakers (for Reeves?) I know Luka would love to have Gafford to throw lobs to and the Mavs need a PG.

If the they do move Gafford they are going to need to find another defensive big. They found Gafford so hopefully they can find another big on someone’s roster.

Nico won't make another deal with Lakers, it would be laughable to give someone for a player he could have gotten in Luka's trade for free. Secondly, D wins championship, not exactly AR's forte. Thirdly, AR is white.

I'm very sceptical about KD wanting to come in Mavs' mess.

You’re probably right. I just know that Luka wants a legit lob threat and he’s very fond of Gafford.

As for KD, he’s friends with several people in the Mavs organization (team and front office). Of course that doesn’t mean he’ll want to play in this mess, it just makes some level of sense that he would. Of course that also doesn’t mean that the Mavs would have the best offer.

Bob8 · Post #60 » by **Bob8** » Thu Apr 24, 2025 1:23 pm

Mr B wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
Mr B wrote:That’s the package I think they do offer to the Suns. Gafford’s contract is coming up and he deserves to get paid. I’d prefer it be with the Mavs but I think they offer him to the Suns.

Although I wouldn’t be surprised if they traded Gafford to the Lakers (for Reeves?) I know Luka would love to have Gafford to throw lobs to and the Mavs need a PG.

If the they do move Gafford they are going to need to find another defensive big. They found Gafford so hopefully they can find another big on someone’s roster.

Nico won't make another deal with Lakers, it would be laughable to give someone for a player he could have gotten in Luka's trade for free. Secondly, D wins championship, not exactly AR's forte. Thirdly, AR is white.

I'm very sceptical about KD wanting to come in Mavs' mess.

You’re probably right. I just know that Luka wants a legit lob threat and he’s very fond of Gafford.

As for KD, he’s friends with several people in the Mavs organization (team and front office). Of course that doesn’t mean he’ll want to play in this mess, it just makes some level of sense that he would. Of course that also doesn’t mean that the Mavs would have the best offer.

KD is well aware that next year is lost because of Kyrie's injury. Kyrie might come back in 2026 but he will be normal Kyrie only in 26/27 season.

Mavs should be tanking next season for the last good pick for a long time.