How can Hawks get out of the Trae business, but stay competitive?

Dr Positivity · Post #1 » by **Dr Positivity** » Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:39 pm

It seems like a good time to trade him before he either leaves in free agency or becomes their new Max Joe salary wise, after another middling year, but I don't think Hawks want to rebuild with development of players like Daniels, Johnson, Okongwu and Risacher.

Is there a guard for guard trade out there? Murray, Morant, LaMelo, etc.?

jayjaysee · Post #2 » by **jayjaysee** » Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:09 pm

Think Hawks want to see him and Jalen on the court together.. probably think the season goes differently with Jalen on the court instead of Niang.

LarsV8 · Post #3 » by **LarsV8** » Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:15 pm

Got to find another team with a good player who wants to rebuild, and a third team that prefers Trae to that teams player.

Sabonis and the Kings comes to mind.

Saints14 · Post #4 » by **Saints14** » Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:37 pm

Trae is tough, the Hawks are pretty much built around him so trading him would likely signal a rebuild and it’s hard to identify a team that would give up a lot just to build around Trae with limited assets. I think their best course of action is standing pat and hoping that Jalen Johnson, Risacher and/or Daniels can make leaps

CP War Hawks · Post #5 » by **CP War Hawks** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:08 am

jayjaysee wrote:Think Hawks want to see him and Jalen on the court together.. probably think the season goes differently with Jalen on the court instead of Niang.

Correct. Niang, Gueye, Capela, Nance, Barlow. 44 million worth of salary to bigs that either are not up to par, injured, or both.

Xman · Post #6 » by **Xman** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:02 am

[quote="LarsV8"]Got to find another team with a good player who wants to rebuild, and a third team that prefers Trae to that teams player.

Sabonis and the Kings comes to mind.[/quote]

So,
Trae to Houston
Sabonis and Sheppard to Atlanta
Niang, JGreen, Cam, 9, 22 to Sacramento

LarsV8 · Post #7 » by **LarsV8** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:04 am

Xman wrote:
LarsV8 wrote:Got to find another team with a good player who wants to rebuild, and a third team that prefers Trae to that teams player.

Sabonis and the Kings comes to mind.

So,
Trae to Houston
Sabonis and Sheppard to Atlanta
Niang, JGreen, Cam, 9, 22 to Sacramento

Sheppard shouldn't be needed.

Myth · Post #8 » by **Myth** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:29 am

Scoot/Ayton(expiring)+picks?

MessiahUjiri · Post #9 » by **MessiahUjiri** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 3:29 am

#7, Immanuel Quickley, 2 2nds for Trae Young, #22

Get a top 10 pick, a scoring guard to work with Dyson. This satisfies the objective of staying competitive and getting out of the Trae business.

Trae is essentially UFA expiring, and he really needs the ball in his hands. That factors in value here. Raptors would need some assurances he will extend.

HornetJail · Post #10 » by **HornetJail** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:47 am

I'd be very curious to see Trae and Melo in action together. Melo has been at his best when playing roughly 60/40 on-ball/off-ball rather than being asked to take on prime Harden usage like he had to do earlier this season.

Charlotte desperately needs playmaking wherever we can get it, idc whether it's a PG or a C. Melo/Miller/Bridges are versatile enough to play with anybody offensively.

Defense is a whole other story, but I absolutely cannot watch another season of our current offense. Jeff Peterson's aversion to anybody that can dribble is absolutely maddening.

Like with any other star that hits the market, I'm offering up our draft pick provided it's not Flagg... TBD on whether I'd trade Harper, but probably

babyjax13 · Post #11 » by **babyjax13** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 7:13 am

MessiahUjiri wrote:#7, Immanuel Quickley, 2 2nds for Trae Young, #22

Get a top 10 pick, a scoring guard to work with Dyson. This satisfies the objective of staying competitive and getting out of the Trae business.

Trae is essentially UFA expiring, and he really needs the ball in his hands. That factors in value here. Raptors would need some assurances he will extend.

I dont understand how they'd be competitive downgrading from Trae to Quickley.

tbhawksfan1 · Post #12 » by **tbhawksfan1** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:26 am

I expect Trae and the Hawks will find the right contract to extend. Hawks need a vet center and JJ back healthy. Add two FRPs and a little FA help is likely how it will go

MessiahUjiri · Post #13 » by **MessiahUjiri** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:08 pm

babyjax13 wrote:
MessiahUjiri wrote:#7, Immanuel Quickley, 2 2nds for Trae Young, #22

Get a top 10 pick, a scoring guard to work with Dyson. This satisfies the objective of staying competitive and getting out of the Trae business.

Trae is essentially UFA expiring, and he really needs the ball in his hands. That factors in value here. Raptors would need some assurances he will extend.

I dont understand how they'd be competitive downgrading from Trae to Quickley.

Well the obvious answer is that this is embracing a younger team, and taking the ball out of Trae’s dominant hands. The whole offense will change to allow others to grow, instead of standing and Trae watching.

Yeah they might take a step back initially, but they’re not even a playoff team now. Plus They’re gonna add a top 7 pick.

raleigh · Post #14 » by **raleigh** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:13 pm

Myth wrote:Scoot/Ayton(expiring)+picks?

This is my preferred trade, but it's definitely a risky one. This kind of move worked with the DJM-Daniels trade, so why not try it again?

MessiahUjiri wrote:#7, Immanuel Quickley, 2 2nds for Trae Young, #22

And this is the other end of the spectrum. I actually prefer this one with Mann/Barrett added in. It keeps the Hawks in the play-in battle, which ownership might prefer.

Astaluego · Post #15 » by **Astaluego** » Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:36 pm

I would do the opposite, since they don't have their own draft picks. I would try to consolidate and get a star-level center. AD? Rudy Gobert? I think they have the assets to do it.

Post #16 » by **Diop** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:15 am

seeing Houston shoot like crap, could he fit there?

ReggiesKnicks · Post #17 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:19 am

tbhawksfan1 wrote:I expect Trae and the Hawks will find the right contract to extend. Hawks need a vet center and JJ back healthy. Add two FRPs and a little FA help is likely how it will go

FRP isn't going to help the Hawks win in 2025-2026. It will help the Risacher timeline win, but not next year's Atlanta team.

Ultimately, I think that Trae is a good fit for a team going through a pseudo-rebuild like Atlanta. Trae allows more limited rookies to get on the court.

Trae/Risacher/Jalen/Krejci/Daniels is an intriguing core moving into the next 2-4 years.

LarsV8 · Post #18 » by **LarsV8** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:21 am

Diop wrote:seeing Houston shoot like crap, could he fit there?

Not sure.

It would be better, but what would the defensive drop off be?

Trae works best with Shooters and Rim Runner, and we don't really have that.

Post #19 » by **Diop** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 4:23 am

LarsV8 wrote:
Diop wrote:seeing Houston shoot like crap, could he fit there?

Not sure.

It would be better, but what would the defensive drop off be?

Trae works best with Shooters and Rim Runner, and we don't really have that.

yeah fair, no need for Houston to panic either.