Homeland security needs to detain FVV and Jalen Green

[yellowknifer]

Jalen Green is still super young; he'll figure it out.

This is year 4 and he's barely improved.

He has definitely improved. He seems destined to be streaky and over confident. I didn’t see the game but the box was ugly.

Fred needs to be smarter but this is hardly a new problem. He was at his most valuable off the bench for the raptors backing up Lowry. 20 minutes a game. Could go crazy on defense and take advantage of backups. He is a better off ball catch and shoot player strictly from a shooting efficiency standpoint. He was really nice playing with Lowry.

He needs to pick his spots better but he has no fear and way too much confidence in his ability. It’s because he will go off for 50 hitting some of those dumb shots. It’s rare he scores a lot of points on good efficiency. Houston has to adjust if they want to have a chance. They don’t have a good half court offense. They relied on offensive rebounds and the break. I think part of the reason Fred has such a green light is the offensive rebounding they have.

[picc]

Jalen Green is still super young; he'll figure it out.

This is year 4 and he's barely improved.

He has definitely improved. He seems destined to be streaky and over confident. I didn’t see the game but the box was ugly.

Imagine what his game was like from the box.

Now imagine it 10x dumber and more out of control.

[-Luke-]

Was wondering what the title was about, then I saw the box score. Nice bricklaying activity, eh?

[tribulations]

Kevin Durant would be perfect for them but only if they don’t gut the roster to acquire him

For a soon to be 37yo KD, on an expiring deal, surely FVV + filler + pick/s gets it done

[durden_tyler]

FVV, yes. Green, is just, too green, there’s hope for him.


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[durden_tyler]

That FVV contract was always a headscratcher to me.

It made perfect sense and still does actually, they got a vet on a short period of time. Good contract too, 2+1 for a vet leadership? Can't complain.

Now they do need to let him go this summer if you ask me, as the squad's needs evolved over time, and they need an absolute elite offensive player insted of a floor raiser vet playmaker like FVV.

Amen should be promoted to lead PG and they need to find a tough shotmaker to round out the roster.

Amen as PG? Can he even dribble the ball? LOL


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[-Luke-]

Kevin Durant would be perfect for them but only if they don’t gut the roster to acquire him

For a soon to be 37yo KD, on an expiring deal, surely FVV + filler + pick/s gets it done

Especially since Houston owns/controls multiple Suns picks.

On the other hand Ishbia is delusional.

[lethalizer]

That FVV contract was always a headscratcher to me.

It made perfect sense and still does actually, they got a vet on a short period of time. Good contract too, 2+1 for a vet leadership? Can't complain.

Now they do need to let him go this summer if you ask me, as the squad's needs evolved over time, and they need an absolute elite offensive player insted of a floor raiser vet playmaker like FVV.

Amen should be promoted to lead PG and they need to find a tough shotmaker to round out the roster.

Amen as PG? Can he even dribble the ball? LOL


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He can. His shot is very suspect still, though. One of the reasons the Rockets roster just can't produce offensively, their spacing is just non-existent on half court.

Besides Sengun driving they don't have any sort of reliable punch as all their players on the court just can't shoot reliably. FVV is part of the problem there obviously.

[Exp0sed]

This is year 4 and he's barely improved.

What I tried to say is, he's super young in his first ever playoff game. I didn't watch so I don't know how bad it was.

His per 36 stats strongly resemble Jordan Clarkson's. He doesn't play good defense. I wouldn't want him anywhere near my team.

he's a much better defender than someone like Clarkson

[bkkrh]

That FVV contract was always a headscratcher to me.

They went from a team that had won 17,20 and 22 games before they signed him to 41 and 52 wins. He is of course not the only reason for that, but Houston went from a team of draft picks that put up empty stats to a team competing for a playoff spot the same season they signed him and Dillon Brooks. One bad game doesn't erase that.

[bkkrh]

Kevin Durant would be perfect for them but only if they don’t gut the roster to acquire him

I think he is already too old. I'd say they need 1-2 more seasons but have the potential to become a dynasty based on their depth with talented players. From that perspective it would make more sense to trade for a proven player in his mid to late 20s, that will actually be around when they compete for championships. Kinda like Cleveland is now with Donovan Mitchell.

[jasonxxx102]

Green is another guy who I’ve been saying is bad for years and gotten flamed on here by rockets fans because “he scores 20ppg”

Dude is a possession black hole on offense, unless it’s the 5% of the time he randomly gets hot.

And he makes your defense significantly worse when he’s on the floor

Oh but yea “he’s young” like we don’t hear that every single year.

[Ice Man]

Combined 17 points on 34fga playing against 40 minutes of Steph Curry.

In fairness, Steph defended very well. They kept going at him and he kept staying in front of them, and physically too. The announcing crew missed one of the key factors of the game -- how the Rockets were targeting Steph on defense, and how he stymied that tactic. They just didn't seem to notice that.

[djw]

Combined 17 points on 34fga playing against 40 minutes of Steph Curry.

In fairness, Steph defended very well. They kept going at him and he kept staying in front of them, and physically too. The announcing crew missed one of the key factors of the game -- how the Rockets were targeting Steph on defense, and how he stymied that tactic. They just didn't seem to notice that.

I didn't see tha game but if that was the plan, why not change it once you notice it doesn't work instead of chucking 34 combined shots for 17 points? Or did Udoka also miss that along with the announcing crew?

[BHF]

I am so happy Fred is not on my team anymore, he was the most selfish and frustrating player to watch. He ruined the chemistry with his selfishness and chucking, now he is doing the same thing on the rockets.

[jbk1234]

Jalen Green is still super young; he'll figure it out.

Not every young player figures it out and gets better. Sometimes what you see is what you get. Sometimes what you get is worse because the young guy mistakenly believes he should be the No. 1 option and bucks at a reduced role.

[Ice Man]

I didn't see tha game but if that was the plan, why not change it once you notice it doesn't work instead of chucking 34 combined shots for 17 points? Or did Udoka also miss that along with the announcing crew?

That was one quarter of the plan. The Rockets had 4 plans -

1) Iso against Steph. A disaster.

2) Iso with Sengen against anybody he was facing. That worked pretty well, because the Warriors were committed to single teaming, so Sengen got his buckets. But he didn't have much opportunity to make plays for others.

3) Have FVV chuck. A disaster.

4) Crash the offensive boards after the first three options failed. That tactic worked VERY well.

[Godymas]

That FVV contract was always a headscratcher to me.

I mean it's not terrible, he's helped to improve the team and gotten the young guys to play proper team basketball. The other thing to note is that next year is a team option and I would expect Houston to decline it if FVV doesn't get it done for them in the playoffs this year.

[Godymas]

Free Reed Sheppard

Why the hell did he not play Reed when they were both stinking it up so much?

you haven't watched Reed Sheppard at all this year, he is NOT ready to play in an NBA playoff game

same reason why JJ Redick didn't run Dalton Knecht until garbage time vs. Minnesota

[LockoutSeason]

Van Vleet is worse than Jalen Green. At least Jalen is young.

I’m pretty sure Reed Sheppard is capable of shooting 4-19 and 2-12 from 3. Give the young guy a shot.