2024-2025 NBA Playoffs Round 1, Game 1: (7) Orlando Magic at (2) Boston Celtics - 3:30pm ET

[three3d]

You guys are trying too hard to identify "what went wrong". What went wrong is what we already know: we are a 7th seed and lost to a 2 seed. their stars are better and more experienced at this point, their role players are better and more experienced at this point, and their coaching is better, and that would be the case even if we were at full strength, and we are not, as we are missing two key players in Mo and Suggs.

You are all trying to solve this as if it isn't obvious. I think folks on this board need to reset their expectations for this series and enjoy that our team is battling and will grow from this series, think of it as gambling with house money.

BTW, P5 is now averaging 28pts, 9rbs, and 4ast on 42% shooting on 3pt shots over 8 playoff games against teams with ELITE defense.

He is not a rising star; he is a star now at 22 years old!

We’re probably the easiest team to beat in the Playoffs, in fact we’re so easy to beat nobody even has to play defense on Paolo and Franz. The shooting is so bad it’s debatable if anybody has to have defense plate on them.
With no real point guard ( Suggs isn’t a pg even if he was healthy) there’s nobody to control the flow and distribute shots, when Paolo and Franz have the ball is iso basketball all the defense has to do it let them kill the shot clock and try to drive to the rim or force a last second shot.

It’s simple basketball, it’s not even NBA level offense at all. Paolo or Franz would have to score 50+ points each to have a chance and that’s just not going to happen.

[basketballRob]

You guys are trying too hard to identify "what went wrong". What went wrong is what we already know: we are a 7th seed and lost to a 2 seed. their stars are better and more experienced at this point, their role players are better and more experienced at this point, and their coaching is better, and that would be the case even if we were at full strength, and we are not, as we are missing two key players in Mo and Suggs.

You are all trying to solve this as if it isn't obvious. I think folks on this board need to reset their expectations for this series and enjoy that our team is battling and will grow from this series, think of it as gambling with house money.

BTW, P5 is now averaging 28pts, 9rbs, and 4ast on 42% shooting on 3pt shots over 8 playoff games against teams with ELITE defense.

He is not a rising star; he is a star now at 22 years old!

We’re probably the easiest team to beat in the Playoffs, in fact we’re so easy to beat nobody even has to play defense on Paolo and Franz. The shooting is so bad it’s debatable if anybody has to have defense plate on them.
With no real point guard ( Suggs isn’t a pg even if he was healthy) there’s nobody to control the flow and distribute shots, when Paolo and Franz have the ball is iso basketball all the defense has to do it let them kill the shot clock and try to drive to the rim or force a last second shot.

It’s simple basketball, it’s not even NBA level offense at all. Paolo or Franz would have to score 50+ points each to have a chance and that’s just not going to happen.

Everyone else shot the ball fine. They just didn't get any shots.

Sent from my SM-G998U1 using RealGM mobile app

[eyriq]

You guys are trying too hard to identify "what went wrong". What went wrong is what we already know: we are a 7th seed and lost to a 2 seed. their stars are better and more experienced at this point, their role players are better and more experienced at this point, and their coaching is better, and that would be the case even if we were at full strength, and we are not, as we are missing two key players in Mo and Suggs.

You are all trying to solve this as if it isn't obvious. I think folks on this board need to reset their expectations for this series and enjoy that our team is battling and will grow from this series, think of it as gambling with house money.

BTW, P5 is now averaging 28pts, 9rbs, and 4ast on 42% shooting on 3pt shots over 8 playoff games against teams with ELITE defense.

He is not a rising star; he is a star now at 22 years old!

Well said!

He played good enough to lead us to victory, sadly nobody followed.

The outcome is obvious, like you said, as is the root cause. The root cause isn't injuries, roster construction, coaching, etc. It's experience and player quality. Boston is more experienced with better players.

I think we are better than the betting markets and computer models think right now, better than a seventh seed. I think the root cause of being the 7th seed is injuries. That said, even healthy we are not going to be favored against the Celtics.

Facing the best team in the NBA is a terrific opportunity for this team. We are playing with house money.

Mosley doesn't have many levers to pull. He has fewer than is reasonable because Weltman erroneously stood pat at the deadline. That said, he can still play chess. I love Mosley and think he'll step up and grow during this series.

AB is developing and this is great exposure for him. He has an opportunity to cement his reputation as a big game riser. How he handles the pressure will be very telling as to his ultimate upside.

Franz and Paolo can cement their places in the league's top 15 with how they handle this series.

[three3d]

You guys are trying too hard to identify "what went wrong". What went wrong is what we already know: we are a 7th seed and lost to a 2 seed. their stars are better and more experienced at this point, their role players are better and more experienced at this point, and their coaching is better, and that would be the case even if we were at full strength, and we are not, as we are missing two key players in Mo and Suggs.

You are all trying to solve this as if it isn't obvious. I think folks on this board need to reset their expectations for this series and enjoy that our team is battling and will grow from this series, think of it as gambling with house money.

BTW, P5 is now averaging 28pts, 9rbs, and 4ast on 42% shooting on 3pt shots over 8 playoff games against teams with ELITE defense.

He is not a rising star; he is a star now at 22 years old!

We’re probably the easiest team to beat in the Playoffs, in fact we’re so easy to beat nobody even has to play defense on Paolo and Franz. The shooting is so bad it’s debatable if anybody has to have defense plate on them.
With no real point guard ( Suggs isn’t a pg even if he was healthy) there’s nobody to control the flow and distribute shots, when Paolo and Franz have the ball is iso basketball all the defense has to do it let them kill the shot clock and try to drive to the rim or force a last second shot.

It’s simple basketball, it’s not even NBA level offense at all. Paolo or Franz would have to score 50+ points each to have a chance and that’s just not going to happen.

Everyone else shot the ball fine. They just didn't get any shots.

Sent from my SM-G998U1 using RealGM mobile app

Exactly 51 of the 81 shots came from Paolo and Franz, no point guard to creat and distribute or control flow and pace of the game is a HUGE problem.

The entire season feels like a waste I’m not even talking about injuries. Every step of the way crap was thrown against a wall to see what would stick. Caleb Houston was a DNP for most of the season then towards the end he starts getting minutes, 13 to be exact in game one. Jonathan Issac’s minutes restriction ( even if they don’t want to call it minutes restriction ) felt like they just tried to protect him all season. DaSilva goes from starter to not playing, same thing with Goga smh. Nothing made sense.

[Skybox]

You guys are trying too hard to identify "what went wrong". What went wrong is what we already know: we are a 7th seed and lost to a 2 seed. their stars are better and more experienced at this point, their role players are better and more experienced at this point, and their coaching is better, and that would be the case even if we were at full strength, and we are not, as we are missing two key players in Mo and Suggs.

You are all trying to solve this as if it isn't obvious. I think folks on this board need to reset their expectations for this series and enjoy that our team is battling and will grow from this series, think of it as gambling with house money.

BTW, P5 is now averaging 28pts, 9rbs, and 4ast on 42% shooting on 3pt shots over 8 playoff games against teams with ELITE defense.

He is not a rising star; he is a star now at 22 years old!

Don't confuse mindful criticism with despair that we lost...nobody in their right mind is picking ORL in this series. It's only distressing that the glaring glaring weaknesses are the same old stories that could have been addressed...we might still lose, but it shouldn't be so obvious how to beat this team. Suggs would have made us better (assuming-and it's not a tiny one-that his shooting last season was the real thing...not every other year's) but BOS is still BOS.

[three3d]

You guys are trying too hard to identify "what went wrong". What went wrong is what we already know: we are a 7th seed and lost to a 2 seed. their stars are better and more experienced at this point, their role players are better and more experienced at this point, and their coaching is better, and that would be the case even if we were at full strength, and we are not, as we are missing two key players in Mo and Suggs.

You are all trying to solve this as if it isn't obvious. I think folks on this board need to reset their expectations for this series and enjoy that our team is battling and will grow from this series, think of it as gambling with house money.

BTW, P5 is now averaging 28pts, 9rbs, and 4ast on 42% shooting on 3pt shots over 8 playoff games against teams with ELITE defense.

He is not a rising star; he is a star now at 22 years old!

Don't confuse mindful criticism with despair that we lost...nobody in their right mind is picking ORL in this series. It's only distressing that the glaring glaring weaknesses are the same old stories that could have been addressed...we might still lose, but it shouldn't be so obvious how to beat this team. Suggs would have made us better (assuming-and it's not a tiny one-that his shooting last season was the real thing...not every other year's) but BOS is still BOS.

Exactly and I’ll hammer home again the shooting discrepancy in the game was not accidental, Boston knows there’s no threat without the basketball in the hand of Paolo and Franz and that’s how/why Paolo and Franz had 51 of the 81 shots. Stopping 3 other guys on the court is a lot easier to do than stopping P & F

[eyriq]

Read on Twitter

?t=Ut9g4x_aIVo3aPCG_Y27vQ&s=19

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Paolo Banchero on how the Magic can find more scoring beyond him and Franz Wagner:

“I’m not sure. I’ve really got to go back and watch the game, see what went wrong, but it’s game one. There’s nerves, lit crowd, really loud. Not a total surprise that we struggled a little bit on offense, honestly.”

Magic coach Jamahl Mosley on how Orlando gets more offense from players besides Paolo Banchero & Franz Wagner: “I think it’s just the ability to play faster.”

[three3d]

Magic coach Jamahl Mosley on how Orlando gets more offense from players besides Paolo Banchero & Franz Wagner: “I think it’s just the ability to PLAY FASTER.”

Translation….. Get me a POINT GUARD , absolutely no way we’re ever going to play faster basketball with Paulo and Franz dribbling to creat their own shots.

[eyriq]

Read on Twitter

?t=qdgXO8F6AgA3nxr2Ij3IZA&s=19

[Skybox]

Magic coach Jamahl Mosley on how Orlando gets more offense from players besides Paolo Banchero & Franz Wagner: “I think it’s just the ability to PLAY FASTER.”

Translation….. Get me a POINT GUARD , absolutely no way we’re ever going to play faster basketball with Paulo and Franz dribbling to creat their own shots.

So, you don't think casually inbounding to a 250 lb guy at the baseline is the way to speed up?

[three3d]

Magic coach Jamahl Mosley on how Orlando gets more offense from players besides Paolo Banchero & Franz Wagner: “I think it’s just the ability to PLAY FASTER.”

Translation….. Get me a POINT GUARD , absolutely no way we’re ever going to play faster basketball with Paulo and Franz dribbling to creat their own shots.

So, you don't think casually inbounding to a 250 lb guy at the baseline is the way to speed up?

I hate those little pesky fast twitchy guys that can handle the ball under 6’5”

[Skybox]

Magic coach Jamahl Mosley on how Orlando gets more offense from players besides Paolo Banchero & Franz Wagner: “I think it’s just the ability to PLAY FASTER.”

Translation….. Get me a POINT GUARD , absolutely no way we’re ever going to play faster basketball with Paulo and Franz dribbling to creat their own shots.

So, you don't think casually inbounding to a 250 lb guy at the baseline is the way to speed up?

I hate those little pesky fast twitchy guys that can handle the ball under 6’5”

Yep...put them at C, where they can force switches

[MartinsIzAfraud]

Magic coach Jamahl Mosley on how Orlando gets more offense from players besides Paolo Banchero & Franz Wagner: “I think it’s just the ability to PLAY FASTER.”

Translation….. Get me a POINT GUARD , absolutely no way we’re ever going to play faster basketball with Paulo and Franz dribbling to creat their own shots.

BINGO, Paolo/Franz combined for 9 turnovers while both having 2nd and 3rd highest usage rates in the playoffs only behind Giannis. This teams need for a 3rd playmaker/guard who can run a competent pick and roll is HUGE

[three3d]

Magic coach Jamahl Mosley on how Orlando gets more offense from players besides Paolo Banchero & Franz Wagner: “I think it’s just the ability to PLAY FASTER.”

Translation….. Get me a POINT GUARD , absolutely no way we’re ever going to play faster basketball with Paulo and Franz dribbling to creat their own shots.

BINGO, Paolo/Franz combined for 9 turnovers while both having 2nd and 3rd highest usage rates in the playoffs only behind Giannis. This teams need for a 3rd playmaker/guard who can run a competent pick and roll is HUGE

Can you imagine Paolo rolling to the hoop of a pick and roll without the ball in his hand I’d probably damn near pass out lol. And Paolo would be saying to himself,” wow it’s a lot easier to score when you roll to the basket and have a confident point guard making the play for me!”

[three3d]

So, you don't think casually inbounding to a 250 lb guy at the baseline is the way to speed up?

I hate those little pesky fast twitchy guys that can handle the ball under 6’5”

Yep...put them at C, where they can force switches

Jeff Weltman says to himself on draft night,” If they are under 6’7” and aren’t long we don’t touch them.”

The DeVos family,” Yea we don’t use a traditional point guard or shooting guard around here, this isn’t 90’s basketball and no teams ever won Championships with those type players anyway.”

[JoshuaPotter]

Read on Twitter

?t=qdgXO8F6AgA3nxr2Ij3IZA&s=19

Ball hog, can't shoot, doesn't nothing elite, turns over too much, defense is terrible all he does is score, one dimensional, his points don't matter, doesn't rebound enough, needs to shoot more free throws, overweight for his size, doesn't have enough assists.

[basketballRob]

I hate those little pesky fast twitchy guys that can handle the ball under 6’5”

Yep...put them at C, where they can force switches

Jeff Weltman says to himself on draft night,” If they are under 6’7” and aren’t long we don’t touch them.”

The DeVos family,” Yea we don’t use a traditional point guard or shooting guard around here, this isn’t 90’s basketball and no teams ever won Championships with those type players anyway.”

Suggs is out, and we played 5 guards in the 10-man rotation last night. They made Black guard Tatum.

Sent from my SM-G998U1 using RealGM mobile app

[JoshuaPotter]

Magic coach Jamahl Mosley on how Orlando gets more offense from players besides Paolo Banchero & Franz Wagner: “I think it’s just the ability to PLAY FASTER.”

Translation….. Get me a POINT GUARD , absolutely no way we’re ever going to play faster basketball with Paulo and Franz dribbling to creat their own shots.

So, you don't think casually inbounding to a 250 lb guy at the baseline is the way to speed up?

I hate those little pesky fast twitchy guys that can handle the ball under 6’5”

Aren't they a defensive liability for all 5 positions too?

[three3d]

[tweet]1914083249279598971[/ tweet]?t=qdgXO8F6AgA3nxr2Ij3IZA&s=19

Ball hog, can't shoot, doesn't nothing elite, turns over too much, defense is terrible all he does is score, one dimensional, his points don't matter, doesn't rebound enough, needs to shoot more free throws, overweight for his size, doesn't have enough assists.

LOL I just read this and in my head I heard it as one of those Michael Jordan commercials where he’s debunking the narrative on him MJ was a beast at everything even creating narratives for him to fuel himself.