2025 NBA Draft

[ibraheim718]

I just think the point guard the team needs is not in the NBA right now or is unattainable. Paolo is only 22 so they can afford to draft one.. this is the draft to do it. Black looks to be a good back up point guard long term unless he has a mindset makeover (which can happen). He has the talent but he doesn't have the drive as of yet.

[basketballRob]

I just think the point guard the team needs is not in the NBA right now or is unattainable. Paolo is only 22 so they can afford to draft one.. this is the draft to do it. Black looks to be a good back up point guard long term unless he has a mindset makeover (which can happen). He has the talent but he doesn't have the drive as of yet.

I like Suggs and Black starting next season with KCP and Clayton off the bench.

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[Duke4life831]

I do like the Clayton fit for y’all. It definitely would be a HR swing for sure. If his game does end up translating, he’s really the ideal fit. But there is a good chance he just doesn’t translate and he’s just another inefficient gunning small scoring guard. But with using your 2nd 1st round pick on him seems like the ideal scenario to take more of a high risk, high reward move.

[KillMonger]

I do like the Clayton fit for y’all. It definitely would be a HR swing for sure. If his game does end up translating, he’s really the ideal fit. But there is a good chance he just doesn’t translate and he’s just another inefficient gunning small scoring guard. But with using your 2nd 1st round pick on him seems like the ideal scenario to take more of a high risk, high reward move.

do you think he'll continue to rise? or will he stay around late first range?

[fendilim]

I do like the Clayton fit for y’all. It definitely would be a HR swing for sure. If his game does end up translating, he’s really the ideal fit. But there is a good chance he just doesn’t translate and he’s just another inefficient gunning small scoring guard. But with using your 2nd 1st round pick on him seems like the ideal scenario to take more of a high risk, high reward move.

I agree. Reed Sheppard is struggling to translate now, Clayton is definitely a risk. With the Denver pick, why not? But I think we can get someone better with our own pick.

[Skybox]

I do like the Clayton fit for y’all. It definitely would be a HR swing for sure. If his game does end up translating, he’s really the ideal fit. But there is a good chance he just doesn’t translate and he’s just another inefficient gunning small scoring guard. But with using your 2nd 1st round pick on him seems like the ideal scenario to take more of a high risk, high reward move.

I agree. Reed Sheppard is struggling to translate now, Clayton is definitely a risk. With the Denver pick, why not? But I think we can get someone better with our own pick.

Who is the PG at 16?
Traore, Demin, Saraf are all mocked around there but each has a (projected) lack of shooting range. Jase Richardson could last if some terrible flaw shows up at combine maybe…I just think it’s hard to bank on a 19 yo PG delivering for a few years….I wonder if a higher level prospect who hasn’t found a spot yet like Nikola Topic or Reed Sheperd might be attainable for a reasonable win-now piece(s) or draft equity. Also, nothing says we can’t use our 25 frps and trade future ones for immediate help.

Ty Jerome is really the model…who’s the next Ty Jerome and on whose bench is he hiding?

Micic? Tre Mann? Do guys like this have another gear waiting to be discovered? Look at teams with premier PGs…that’s where they’d be hidden

[basketballRob]

OKC has 15 players under contract next season and 2 first round picks. I'm curious which players they are going to let go.

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[drsd]

OKC has 15 players under contract next season and 2 first round picks. I'm curious which players they are going to let go.

And-1

Arguably the best team in the NBA this year is now forced to make consolidation trades this off-season and over the next several as well, becasue assets were so well managed. That means talent and depth only improves (on paper at least).
The Thunder could be looking at a 70 win season next year if they stay 95% healthy all season long.

[Skybox]

OKC has 15 players under contract next season and 2 first round picks. I'm curious which players they are going to let go.

And-1

Arguably the best team in the NBA this year is now forced to make consolidation trades this off-season and over the next several as well, becasue assets were so well managed. That means talent and depth only improves (on paper at least).
The Thunder could be looking at a 70 win season next year if they stay 95% healthy all season long.

I wonder if they'd value an expiring Gary or even Cole with picks for a couple of their "lesser" guys. They already have all the picks in the world, but can't have too many. I think KCP is a better Caruso...I'd definitely have my eyes on Nikola Topic and Isaiah Joe if they wanted/needed to thin their ranks. Cason Wallace is the guy, in hindsight, we should have drafted and he'd start at PG tomorrow if we could pull it off...They have pick 15, I wonder if they'd trade out for a future frp - I'd do it if we had a deal ready to throw 15&16 or 24 together to move and get into the difference-makers. Specifically, I think Kon Knueppel and Khaman Maluach and (maybe) Jase Richardson would be significant and, possibly, immediate upgrades.

Imagine being so good, so young, and so deep AND still having the pick stash they do...sky's the limit, maybe best GM over the last decade. Made a couple of missteps, but immediately dealt with them - that's way more important than avoiding any missteps at all.

[basketballRob]

OKC has 15 players under contract next season and 2 first round picks. I'm curious which players they are going to let go.

And-1

Arguably the best team in the NBA this year is now forced to make consolidation trades this off-season and over the next several as well, becasue assets were so well managed. That means talent and depth only improves (on paper at least).
The Thunder could be looking at a 70 win season next year if they stay 95% healthy all season long.

I wonder if they'd value an expiring Gary or even Cole with picks for a couple of their "lesser" guys. They already have all the picks in the world, but can't have too many. I think KCP is a better Caruso...I'd definitely have my eyes on Nikola Topic and Isaiah Joe if they wanted/needed to thin their ranks. Cason Wallace is the guy, in hindsight, we should have drafted and he'd start at PG tomorrow if we could pull it off...They have pick 15, I wonder if they'd trade out for a future frp - I'd do it if we had a deal ready to throw 15&16 or 24 together to move and get into the difference-makers. Specifically, I think Kon Knueppel and Khaman Maluach and (maybe) Jase Richardson would be significant and, possibly, immediate upgrades.

Imagine being so good, so young, and so deep AND still having the pick stash they do...sky's the limit, maybe best GM over the last decade. Made a couple of missteps, but immediately dealt with them - that's way more important than avoiding any missteps at all.

I don't think Gary or Cole would make their team. They just let Tre Mann go who has more promise than both of them.

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[basketballRob]

Last season, the NBA announced the draft order around 6 on the first Monday after the playoffs started. So, around 6 pm, we should know our draft position.

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[Skybox]

And-1

Arguably the best team in the NBA this year is now forced to make consolidation trades this off-season and over the next several as well, becasue assets were so well managed. That means talent and depth only improves (on paper at least).
The Thunder could be looking at a 70 win season next year if they stay 95% healthy all season long.

I wonder if they'd value an expiring Gary or even Cole with picks for a couple of their "lesser" guys. They already have all the picks in the world, but can't have too many. I think KCP is a better Caruso...I'd definitely have my eyes on Nikola Topic and Isaiah Joe if they wanted/needed to thin their ranks. Cason Wallace is the guy, in hindsight, we should have drafted and he'd start at PG tomorrow if we could pull it off...They have pick 15, I wonder if they'd trade out for a future frp - I'd do it if we had a deal ready to throw 15&16 or 24 together to move and get into the difference-makers. Specifically, I think Kon Knueppel and Khaman Maluach and (maybe) Jase Richardson would be significant and, possibly, immediate upgrades.

Imagine being so good, so young, and so deep AND still having the pick stash they do...sky's the limit, maybe best GM over the last decade. Made a couple of missteps, but immediately dealt with them - that's way more important than avoiding any missteps at all.

I don't think Gary or Cole would make their team. They just let Tre Mann go who has more promise than both of them.

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They're not meant to "make the team"...they're expiring salary relief and freeing up a slot. Maybe even buy-outs. Money matters when half of your young team is heading into extension-ville. We're heading there too, but they're on another level, in that respect.

Those two shouldn't make our team, let alone the best, deepest team in the league.

[fendilim]

I do like the Clayton fit for y’all. It definitely would be a HR swing for sure. If his game does end up translating, he’s really the ideal fit. But there is a good chance he just doesn’t translate and he’s just another inefficient gunning small scoring guard. But with using your 2nd 1st round pick on him seems like the ideal scenario to take more of a high risk, high reward move.

I agree. Reed Sheppard is struggling to translate now, Clayton is definitely a risk. With the Denver pick, why not? But I think we can get someone better with our own pick.

Who is the PG at 16?
Traore, Demin, Saraf are all mocked around there but each has a (projected) lack of shooting range. Jase Richardson could last if some terrible flaw shows up at combine maybe…I just think it’s hard to bank on a 19 yo PG delivering for a few years….I wonder if a higher level prospect who hasn’t found a spot yet like Nikola Topic or Reed Sheperd might be attainable for a reasonable win-now piece(s) or draft equity. Also, nothing says we can’t use our 25 frps and trade future ones for immediate help.

Ty Jerome is really the model…who’s the next Ty Jerome and on whose bench is he hiding?

Micic? Tre Mann? Do guys like this have another gear waiting to be discovered? Look at teams with premier PGs…that’s where they’d be hidden

Are we a lock to draft a PG at 16?we not allowed to draft another position?

[eyriq]

I agree. Reed Sheppard is struggling to translate now, Clayton is definitely a risk. With the Denver pick, why not? But I think we can get someone better with our own pick.

Who is the PG at 16?
Traore, Demin, Saraf are all mocked around there but each has a (projected) lack of shooting range. Jase Richardson could last if some terrible flaw shows up at combine maybe…I just think it’s hard to bank on a 19 yo PG delivering for a few years….I wonder if a higher level prospect who hasn’t found a spot yet like Nikola Topic or Reed Sheperd might be attainable for a reasonable win-now piece(s) or draft equity. Also, nothing says we can’t use our 25 frps and trade future ones for immediate help.

Ty Jerome is really the model…who’s the next Ty Jerome and on whose bench is he hiding?

Micic? Tre Mann? Do guys like this have another gear waiting to be discovered? Look at teams with premier PGs…that’s where they’d be hidden

Are we a lock to draft a PG at 16?we not allowed to draft another position?

I'm rooting for McNeeley

[Skybox]

I agree. Reed Sheppard is struggling to translate now, Clayton is definitely a risk. With the Denver pick, why not? But I think we can get someone better with our own pick.

Who is the PG at 16?
Traore, Demin, Saraf are all mocked around there but each has a (projected) lack of shooting range. Jase Richardson could last if some terrible flaw shows up at combine maybe…I just think it’s hard to bank on a 19 yo PG delivering for a few years….I wonder if a higher level prospect who hasn’t found a spot yet like Nikola Topic or Reed Sheperd might be attainable for a reasonable win-now piece(s) or draft equity. Also, nothing says we can’t use our 25 frps and trade future ones for immediate help.

Ty Jerome is really the model…who’s the next Ty Jerome and on whose bench is he hiding?

Micic? Tre Mann? Do guys like this have another gear waiting to be discovered? Look at teams with premier PGs…that’s where they’d be hidden

Are we a lock to draft a PG at 16?we not allowed to draft another position?

HUH?

My opinion is that we'd be stupid to draft a PG at 16 if we think that's going to help in the near future. Dylan Harper (at #2) might be the only on-ball player that will contribute as a starter next year and that's largely because he'll inevitably land on a bad team. I'd much rather focus on trading for one to help TODAY...I don't have any objection to trading for a longer-term project, but that's a secondary thing. If Weltman drafts a PG and talks about him as if he's the missing piece and doesn't acquire a vet too

[VFX]

I agree. Reed Sheppard is struggling to translate now, Clayton is definitely a risk. With the Denver pick, why not? But I think we can get someone better with our own pick.

Who is the PG at 16?
Traore, Demin, Saraf are all mocked around there but each has a (projected) lack of shooting range. Jase Richardson could last if some terrible flaw shows up at combine maybe…I just think it’s hard to bank on a 19 yo PG delivering for a few years….I wonder if a higher level prospect who hasn’t found a spot yet like Nikola Topic or Reed Sheperd might be attainable for a reasonable win-now piece(s) or draft equity. Also, nothing says we can’t use our 25 frps and trade future ones for immediate help.

Ty Jerome is really the model…who’s the next Ty Jerome and on whose bench is he hiding?

Micic? Tre Mann? Do guys like this have another gear waiting to be discovered? Look at teams with premier PGs…that’s where they’d be hidden

Are we a lock to draft a PG at 16?we not allowed to draft another position?

Magic arent a lock to do anything in the draft.

For all we know Weltman will select "BPA" and draft two forwards that will never get minutes behind 3 other guys.

They selected Jett Howard 11th under the assumption that "Need moar shooters and players from Michigan" and he wasn't an nba player. OOPS!

Nothing will surprise me to be honest. This draft is underwhelming and very few players in Orlando's range will be significantly helping the starting lineup let alone the bench.

[Idiosyncratic]

Point Guard at 16 would not be ideal at this point IMO. It's Harper and Fears as the only lottery level PGs. We aren't getting either.

I absolutely love Jase Richardson, but I do not view him as a PG. I think he is an off-ball guard that could add playmaking and I do actually love his fit with a lot of our players. But do not view him as the PG fix, nor do I view him as likely to get to us. But I would take him in a heartbeat if he did and still look to acquire a PG.

After that I just see a few guys that should be late 1sts for PGs. I don't even think it would be crazy to have Clayton behind Fears on one's board. I have debated how much of a reach he would be at 16, I don't think I would love it, but I'm not sure it would be as crazy as people think.

I actually agree that there just aren't many players in our 1st pick range that will be big helps right now or even great fits going forward. There are guys I would be thrilled to take shots on later in the draft though. I think there are going to be random good players all over this draft, but not many players I would feel super confident about drafting as opposed to getting quality trade value for the pick.

[basketballRob]

They should be doing the coin flip right now to decide where we pick between 22-25.

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