Lotto odds based on tomorrow's play-in

cocktailswith_2short · Post #41 » by **cocktailswith_2short** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:21 pm

Guru wrote:Read somewhere that the coin flip is today at 3pm

id pay to see it televised lol

sco · Post #42 » by **sco** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:15 pm

cocktailswith_2short wrote:
Guru wrote:Read somewhere that the coin flip is today at 3pm
id pay to see it televised lol

IIRC from posts here, it means the difference between lotto odds of 8.1% and 8.4% and non-lotto order between 11 and 12. Is that right?

Post #43 » by **dougthonus** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:19 pm

sco wrote:
cocktailswith_2short wrote:
Guru wrote:Read somewhere that the coin flip is today at 3pm
id pay to see it televised lol

IIRC from posts here, it means the difference between lotto odds of 8.1% and 8.4% and non-lotto order between 11 and 12. Is that right?

Yeah, that's correct.

Guru · Post #44 » by **Guru** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:54 pm

6 minutes...or 66 minutes? Who really knows.

Guru · Post #45 » by **Guru** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:55 pm

https://www.nba.com/bulls/history/flip-coin-helped-bulls-land-jordan

sco · Post #46 » by **sco** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 6:58 pm

Guru wrote:https://www.nba.com/bulls/history/flip-coin-helped-bulls-land-jordan

Wow, didn't know that we had the 2nd pick in '79 and could have landed Magic.

jnrjr79 · Post #47 » by **jnrjr79** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 7:01 pm

dougthonus wrote:
DuckIII wrote:
Ice Man wrote:
So, if Dallas gets the #1 pick that proves the lottery is rigged, and if Dallas does not get the #1 pick that proves the lottery is rigged.

No, no, no. You are confused. This year they will rig it by not rigging it. If they rigged it then everyone would know it’s rigged, so they un-rig rig it to throw everyone off their scent.

They rig it to lose money.

Let's just look at the market sizes of the most hyped draft picks in recent-ish history:
2003: LeBron / Carmelo - neither go to Chicago or NY which would have been the biggest markets in the lottery, both go to crap places
2004: Dwight Howard - Chicago has really high lotto odds, but no, we don't win, he goes to Orlando where no one cares
2007: Oden / Durant - neither go to Boston or Chicago, nope, they go to Portland and Seattle
2008: Rose - Not really a generational talent, but this one you could actually say feel rigged, so I will put it here
2012: Anthony Davis - Pelicans baby, but to be fair no major market teams in the lotto to rig it for
2019: Zion/JA - Definitely the Pels/Griz and not Chicago or NYK
2023: Wemby - Could have sent him to Chicago, but hell yeah, we want him rotting in San Antonio

These were the guys that stood out to me as super hyped going into the draft, not necessarily who became good after the draft. Griffin, Wall, Simmons, and Kyrie were guys I thought about including, but I didn't think any were quite as hyped as this group. Griffin / Simmons maybe landed in the 2nd best city in the lottery for their years.

But if you think of the really, super duper slam dunk guys, it's basically LeBron, Carmelo, Howard, Oden, Durant, Zion, and Wemby IMO. Not a single one lands in a major market.

Ha, yeah. I never understand the conspiracy theory people when the Knicks haven't had major lottery luck despite having gone eleven billion years since winning a title.

Mk0 · Post #48 » by **Mk0** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 10:38 pm

Read on Twitter

ChettheJet · Post #49 » by **ChettheJet** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:24 pm

Guru wrote:https://www.nba.com/bulls/history/flip-coin-helped-bulls-land-jordan

The Arthur Wirtz ownership truly was cheap back then and the roster wasn't exactly top of the line.

it would have been
Magic Johnson Ricky Sobers
Reggie Theus John Mengelt
Artis Gilmore Dennis Awtry
Scott May Sam Smith
Coby Dietrick Mark Landsberger

A lot of years went towards Jordan landing here

prolific passer · Post #50 » by **prolific passer** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:34 pm

ChettheJet wrote:
Guru wrote:https://www.nba.com/bulls/history/flip-coin-helped-bulls-land-jordan

The Arthur Wirtz ownership truly was cheap back then and the roster wasn't exactly top of the line.

it would have been
Magic Johnson Ricky Sobers
Reggie Theus John Mengelt
Artis Gilmore Dennis Awtry
Scott May Sam Smith
Coby Dietrick Mark Landsberger

A lot of years went towards Jordan landing here

76-77 bulls would have been stacked if they drafted English and DJ with their 1st and 2nd rond picks to go along with who else was on that team.

_txchilibowl_ · Post #51 » by **_txchilibowl_** » Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:43 pm

Mk0 wrote:

Read on Twitter

1.7%

I like those odds.

Stratmaster · Post #52 » by **Stratmaster** » Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:07 pm

_txchilibowl_ wrote:
Mk0 wrote:

Read on Twitter

1.7%

I like those odds.

I'll be happy if they luck out and get any top 4.

KissedByaRose1 · Post #53 » by **KissedByaRose1** » Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:26 pm

Stratmaster wrote:
_txchilibowl_ wrote:
Mk0 wrote:

Read on Twitter

1.7%

I like those odds.

I'll be happy if they luck out and get any top 4.

Time is a flat circle. Getting in the top 4 would be the only way we're not having the same conversations again for next 12 months. Fingers crossed.

cocktailswith_2short · Post #54 » by **cocktailswith_2short** » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:36 pm

It worked out good I suppose . 1.7 at Flagg at least our name is In the hat .

Post #55 » by **DASMACKDOWN** » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:55 pm

cocktailswith_2short wrote:It worked out good I suppose . 1.7 at Flagg at least our name is In the hat .

If 1.7% was good enough for Derrick Rose, then its good enough for Cooper Flagg.

Red8911 · Post #56 » by **Red8911** » Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:03 pm

DASMACKDOWN wrote:
cocktailswith_2short wrote:It worked out good I suppose . 1.7 at Flagg at least our name is In the hat .

If 1.7% was good enough for Derrick Rose, then its good enough for Cooper Flagg.

Cooper might as well start looking to buy a house in Chicago.

DropStep · Post #57 » by **DropStep** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 2:28 am

Red8911 wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:
cocktailswith_2short wrote:It worked out good I suppose . 1.7 at Flagg at least our name is In the hat .

If 1.7% was good enough for Derrick Rose, then its good enough for Cooper Flagg.

Cooper might as well start looking to buy a house in Chicago.

That means the odds of us getting both Derrick Rose and Flagg was roughly 3 in 10,000.

Book it.

Stratmaster · Post #58 » by **Stratmaster** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:24 pm

DropStep wrote:
Red8911 wrote:
DASMACKDOWN wrote:
If 1.7% was good enough for Derrick Rose, then its good enough for Cooper Flagg.

Cooper might as well start looking to buy a house in Chicago.

That means the odds of us getting both Derrick Rose and Flagg was roughly 3 in 10,000.

Book it.

What are the odds of Flagg blowing out his knee within his first 4 seasons?

Ouch. I apologize in advance for that remark.

On a different note. Everyone is so sure he is going to be a huge star. Is he that sure a thing? (I don't watch college basketball).

cocktailswith_2short · Post #59 » by **cocktailswith_2short** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 6:53 pm

Stratmaster wrote:
DropStep wrote:
Red8911 wrote:Cooper might as well start looking to buy a house in Chicago.

That means the odds of us getting both Derrick Rose and Flagg was roughly 3 in 10,000.

Book it.

What are the odds of Flagg blowing out his knee within his first 4 seasons?

Ouch. I apologize in advance for that remark.

On a different note. Everyone is so sure he is going to be a huge star. Is he that sure a thing? (I don't watch college basketball).

he's going to be a star .

Post #60 » by **dougthonus** » Wed Apr 23, 2025 7:12 pm

Stratmaster wrote:On a different note. Everyone is so sure he is going to be a huge star. Is he that sure a thing? (I don't watch college basketball).

Strikes me more as an AD / (healthy) Zion level prospect than a LeBron / Wemby level prospect.