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bboyskinnylegs wrote:is Zikarsky worth taking with #39?
Got Nuffin wrote:Indeed wrote:Got Nuffin wrote:
Hmm not sure how much of Maluach you have watched then, unless you just watched the last game (Houston) when he heard he was about to be deported. There us no way you could think that of you watched his previous games closely. He is an extraordinary defender for some one who has only been playing a few years and switchable too.
Mark Williams doesn’t really play any defence so.. if Maluach plays anything like him then yeah you’re right no one should draft himHe won’t even be in the league.
You failed to understand visa and immigration. He wont be deported. Those without talent and fight against Americans for average jobs will get deported. The purpose of visa is to ensure talent stay at that country.
Malauch has yet to show he is a capable defender, we are talking about potential here. Would not be surprised he foul out in 5 mins with our perimeter defense.
I failed to understand it? What has it got to do with me? What on earth are you talking about
We'll have to agree to disagree. There is no way someone who watches and understands defence can watch Maluach in-game and say that he has not shown he is a capable defender. That is, to me, completely whacky and my first reaction would be that you've never seen him play or you just trolling.
If he had not shown elite defensive capability in college I doubt the dude would even be a first round pick.
For the record, my pick is Fears.
Indeed wrote:Got Nuffin wrote:Indeed wrote:
You failed to understand visa and immigration. He wont be deported. Those without talent and fight against Americans for average jobs will get deported. The purpose of visa is to ensure talent stay at that country.
Malauch has yet to show he is a capable defender, we are talking about potential here. Would not be surprised he foul out in 5 mins with our perimeter defense.
I failed to understand it? What has it got to do with me? What on earth are you talking about
We'll have to agree to disagree. There is no way someone who watches and understands defence can watch Maluach in-game and say that he has not shown he is a capable defender. That is, to me, completely whacky and my first reaction would be that you've never seen him play or you just trolling.
If he had not shown elite defensive capability in college I doubt the dude would even be a first round pick.
For the record, my pick is Fears.
Why these players are in the top of the drafts?
They didn't show (flashes of) elite defensive capability?
Clutch0z24 wrote:Indeed wrote:Got Nuffin wrote:
I failed to understand it? What has it got to do with me? What on earth are you talking about
We'll have to agree to disagree. There is no way someone who watches and understands defence can watch Maluach in-game and say that he has not shown he is a capable defender. That is, to me, completely whacky and my first reaction would be that you've never seen him play or you just trolling.
If he had not shown elite defensive capability in college I doubt the dude would even be a first round pick.
For the record, my pick is Fears.
Why these players are in the top of the drafts?
They didn't show (flashes of) elite defensive capability?
Yep these players all get picked off their defensive play because they all had "Defensive Anchor" Label....But if they go to the wrong team and do not have a Luka/Harden/CP3 Type lob passer to play with there is a big chance these type of bigs get lost in the shuffle in the NBA and do not get the chances at playing time due to their offensive limitations....
Tyson Chandler is a good example of this...With the Bulls he almost got lost in the shuffle as soon as he paired up with CP3 his game went up a whole tier better..
Thats why i say if we do end up drafting Maluach for it to not be a fail pick Masai needs to start looking to find a dynamic guard to pair with Maluach Asap....Or it could look like a bad pick in the future.
Tripod wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:Indeed wrote:
Why these players are in the top of the drafts?
They didn't show (flashes of) elite defensive capability?
Yep these players all get picked off their defensive play because they all had "Defensive Anchor" Label....But if they go to the wrong team and do not have a Luka/Harden/CP3 Type lob passer to play with there is a big chance these type of bigs get lost in the shuffle in the NBA and do not get the chances at playing time due to their offensive limitations....
Tyson Chandler is a good example of this...With the Bulls he almost got lost in the shuffle as soon as he paired up with CP3 his game went up a whole tier better..
Thats why i say if we do end up drafting Maluach for it to not be a fail pick Masai needs to start looking to find a dynamic guard to pair with Maluach Asap....Or it could look like a bad pick in the future.
Look at Lively since the Luka trade...4.5ppg.vs almost 9 with him.
But even so...sub 9PPG....you want more than that drafting where we are. Find a backup C elsewhere.
Clutch0z24 wrote:Tripod wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
Yep these players all get picked off their defensive play because they all had "Defensive Anchor" Label....But if they go to the wrong team and do not have a Luka/Harden/CP3 Type lob passer to play with there is a big chance these type of bigs get lost in the shuffle in the NBA and do not get the chances at playing time due to their offensive limitations....
Tyson Chandler is a good example of this...With the Bulls he almost got lost in the shuffle as soon as he paired up with CP3 his game went up a whole tier better..
Thats why i say if we do end up drafting Maluach for it to not be a fail pick Masai needs to start looking to find a dynamic guard to pair with Maluach Asap....Or it could look like a bad pick in the future.
Look at Lively since the Luka trade...4.5ppg.vs almost 9 with him.
But even so...sub 9PPG....you want more than that drafting where we are. Find a backup C elsewhere.
Yeah thats where i am at as well....I like Maluach over a few guys but if we stay at 7....Can't draft him....Maluach is the type of player it depends where he gets drafted and the team he has to determine how successful they become....I like players that can make themselves great and don't need to depend on other players especially at as high as 7th
Got Nuffin wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:Tripod wrote:Look at Lively since the Luka trade...4.5ppg.vs almost 9 with him.
But even so...sub 9PPG....you want more than that drafting where we are. Find a backup C elsewhere.
Yeah thats where i am at as well....I like Maluach over a few guys but if we stay at 7....Can't draft him....Maluach is the type of player it depends where he gets drafted and the team he has to determine how successful they become....I like players that can make themselves great and don't need to depend on other players especially at as high as 7th
I do agree with this.
My fave prospects around our spot are Maluach, Queen and Fears.
- Mal i would share the same concerns but his upside is nuts,
- Queen is incredibly fun and I can imagine him operating next to Scottie as a big forward, but I would be scared of his speed and conditioning causing him to be positionless defensively at the next level as a low end for him,, and he's also a tad older so not sure if that's the reason he looks so much more skilled. Would still like to draft him though
- Fears has almost everything you would want in a lead guard except experience, and he's so young that it may take a couple years to really see him blossom and you're also banking on his work ethic to separate himself from every other fast guard with handles BUT he's my pick if available.
Clutch0z24 wrote:Got Nuffin wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
Yeah thats where i am at as well....I like Maluach over a few guys but if we stay at 7....Can't draft him....Maluach is the type of player it depends where he gets drafted and the team he has to determine how successful they become....I like players that can make themselves great and don't need to depend on other players especially at as high as 7th
I do agree with this.
My fave prospects around our spot are Maluach, Queen and Fears.
- Mal i would share the same concerns but his upside is nuts,
- Queen is incredibly fun and I can imagine him operating next to Scottie as a big forward, but I would be scared of his speed and conditioning causing him to be positionless defensively at the next level as a low end for him,, and he's also a tad older so not sure if that's the reason he looks so much more skilled. Would still like to draft him though
- Fears has almost everything you would want in a lead guard except experience, and he's so young that it may take a couple years to really see him blossom and you're also banking on his work ethic to separate himself from every other fast guard with handles BUT he's my pick if available.
How i look at it...One of
Flagg
Harper
Bailey
Edgecombe
Tre
Fears
Queen
Maluach
Will be a Raptor come next year....ik alot people throw out other prospects that may be "Draft day risers" but i think these are the 8 guys Masai will have to pick from.....From that list Maluach is last on my list though .....Cause every other player on that list can create for themselves...Which is 9/10 times the better upside prospect...Good position for us regardless.
Tripod wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:Got Nuffin wrote:
I do agree with this.
My fave prospects around our spot are Maluach, Queen and Fears.
- Mal i would share the same concerns but his upside is nuts,
- Queen is incredibly fun and I can imagine him operating next to Scottie as a big forward, but I would be scared of his speed and conditioning causing him to be positionless defensively at the next level as a low end for him,, and he's also a tad older so not sure if that's the reason he looks so much more skilled. Would still like to draft him though
- Fears has almost everything you would want in a lead guard except experience, and he's so young that it may take a couple years to really see him blossom and you're also banking on his work ethic to separate himself from every other fast guard with handles BUT he's my pick if available.
How i look at it...One of
Flagg
Harper
Bailey
Edgecombe
Tre
Fears
Queen
Maluach
Will be a Raptor come next year....ik alot people throw out other prospects that may be "Draft day risers" but i think these are the 8 guys Masai will have to pick from.....From that list Maluach is last on my list though .....Cause every other player on that list can create for themselves...Which is 9/10 times the better upside prospect...Good position for us regardless.
This list is too "consensus".
There will be some who jump into the 8.
WuTang_OG wrote:its going to be essengue if we stay at 7 / 8
Tripod wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:Got Nuffin wrote:
I do agree with this.
My fave prospects around our spot are Maluach, Queen and Fears.
- Mal i would share the same concerns but his upside is nuts,
- Queen is incredibly fun and I can imagine him operating next to Scottie as a big forward, but I would be scared of his speed and conditioning causing him to be positionless defensively at the next level as a low end for him,, and he's also a tad older so not sure if that's the reason he looks so much more skilled. Would still like to draft him though
- Fears has almost everything you would want in a lead guard except experience, and he's so young that it may take a couple years to really see him blossom and you're also banking on his work ethic to separate himself from every other fast guard with handles BUT he's my pick if available.
How i look at it...One of
Flagg
Harper
Bailey
Edgecombe
Tre
Fears
Queen
Maluach
Will be a Raptor come next year....ik alot people throw out other prospects that may be "Draft day risers" but i think these are the 8 guys Masai will have to pick from.....From that list Maluach is last on my list though .....Cause every other player on that list can create for themselves...Which is 9/10 times the better upside prospect...Good position for us regardless.
This list is too "consensus".
There will be some who jump into the 8.
Clutch0z24 wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:its going to be essengue if we stay at 7 / 8
Atm can move down to get him...I doubt he moves that far up the draft board....We could prolly get him in the teens if we wanted him.
WuTang_OG wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:its going to be essengue if we stay at 7 / 8
Atm can move down to get him...I doubt he moves that far up the draft board....We could prolly get him in the teens if we wanted him.
not after workouts imo
these french guys have sky rocketed in the lottery the past two years with bilal and tidjane. Noa just like Bilal had strong finishes to the season.
I think Noa is a better all around player than Tidjane too
Clutch0z24 wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
Atm can move down to get him...I doubt he moves that far up the draft board....We could prolly get him in the teens if we wanted him.
not after workouts imo
these french guys have sky rocketed in the lottery the past two years with bilal and tidjane. Noa just like Bilal had strong finishes to the season.
I think Noa is a better all around player than Tidjane too
We will see but imo i don't think he leaps into the top 7....Maybe 13,14 area This draft class is a little more top heavy than them classes as well....More overall talent in this one.
WuTang_OG wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:its going to be essengue if we stay at 7 / 8
Atm can move down to get him...I doubt he moves that far up the draft board....We could prolly get him in the teens if we wanted him.
not after workouts imo
these french guys have sky rocketed in the lottery the past two years with bilal and tidjane. Noa just like Bilal had strong finishes to the season.
I think Noa is a better all around player than Tidjane too
Psubs wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:
Atm can move down to get him...I doubt he moves that far up the draft board....We could prolly get him in the teens if we wanted him.
not after workouts imo
these french guys have sky rocketed in the lottery the past two years with bilal and tidjane. Noa just like Bilal had strong finishes to the season.
I think Noa is a better all around player than Tidjane too
The way they've developed maybe should pump the breaks.
WuTang_OG wrote:Clutch0z24 wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:
not after workouts imo
these french guys have sky rocketed in the lottery the past two years with bilal and tidjane. Noa just like Bilal had strong finishes to the season.
I think Noa is a better all around player than Tidjane too
We will see but imo i don't think he leaps into the top 7....Maybe 13,14 area This draft class is a little more top heavy than them classes as well....More overall talent in this one.
Toronto at #7 is definitely on the table. The talent in front all have their issues too