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Official 2024-2025 Magic General Season Thread I

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Post#2801 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Apr 21, 2025 2:51 pm

Gee wiz guys. I predicted we would be swept but still want us to win. How hard is it to just state the obvious so simply and be ridiculed?

There is a wholesome planet that Franz / Paolo both get super hot the rest of the way and we steamroll through the playoffs. I don't think this happens until their prime years though.
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Post#2802 » by Skybox » Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:08 pm

JoshuaPotter wrote:Gee wiz guys. I predicted we would be swept but still want us to win. How hard is it to just state the obvious so simply and be ridiculed?

There is a wholesome planet that Franz / Paolo both get super hot the rest of the way and we steamroll through the playoffs. I don't think this happens until their prime years though.


So you don't think Franz and Paolo were "hot" enough last night?...I'm thinking everything EXCEPT them is the obvious problem.
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Post#2803 » by JoshuaPotter » Mon Apr 21, 2025 5:22 pm

Skybox wrote:
JoshuaPotter wrote:Gee wiz guys. I predicted we would be swept but still want us to win. How hard is it to just state the obvious so simply and be ridiculed?

There is a wholesome planet that Franz / Paolo both get super hot the rest of the way and we steamroll through the playoffs. I don't think this happens until their prime years though.


So you don't think Franz and Paolo were "hot" enough last night?...I'm thinking everything EXCEPT them is the obvious problem.


In a word? Nope.

Think like Dirk during his championship run, that kinda hot. Or Dwayne Wade in the finals his first championship hot.

Now that being said. Does the rest of the floor need to be raise? Sure. But really notice what I DIDn'T say. I have no confidence that the squad surrounding them is "it".
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Post#2804 » by KillMonger » Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:34 am

Any Germans on the board? Anyone can translate what Franz is saying here?

https://youtube.com/shorts/jkbBhd9ZU3M?feature=shared

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Post#2805 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:42 am

https://youtu.be/MVnmpS5NeYY

Zach Lowe on Magic at 47 minute mark. What a few of us have been saying for years.
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#2806 » by Darth Magic » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:01 am

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:https://youtu.be/MVnmpS5NeYY

Zach Lowe on Magic at 47 minute mark. What a few of us have been saying for years.



Zach Lowe is spot on. We need a coach who is not ignorant on offense and actually knows how to coach offense. We need a scoring, play making point guard who is ALSO a knockdown 3pt shooter. We need a rim running, screen setting, shot blocking, lob catching centre, we need a guard who is a 6th man of the year candidate who can score in bunches off the bench. These things are not suggestions, these are needs! No, Suggs isn't a point guard. Neither is Black. Goga is a great back up big but not a starter on a contender. The front office has to get it done, NOW!
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Post#2807 » by eyriq » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:16 am

KillMonger wrote:Any Germans on the board? Anyone can translate what Franz is saying here?

https://youtube.com/shorts/jkbBhd9ZU3M?feature=shared

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Here's a summary of the video:
Franz Wagner discusses his shot and whether he made any changes to it.
Here are the key points:
* He attempted to modify his shot last summer, but it didn't feel right [00:18].
* He believes his shot is better this season compared to last season [00:35].
* He thinks he is on the right track, but it will take time [00:41].
Do you have any other questions about this video?
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Post#2808 » by VFX » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:19 am

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:https://youtu.be/MVnmpS5NeYY

Zach Lowe on Magic at 47 minute mark. What a few of us have been saying for years.


“Methodical would be the kind way of putting it”

As homers on this board say “wait and see” and “patience” while people that actually know the nba are basically laughing at our FO.
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Post#2809 » by eyriq » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:32 am

VFX wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:https://youtu.be/MVnmpS5NeYY

Zach Lowe on Magic at 47 minute mark. What a few of us have been saying for years.


“Methodical would be the kind way of putting it”

As homers on this board say “wait and see” and “patience” while people that actually know the nba are basically laughing at our FO.
Methodical and patient. It's been the right approach. It's also the right time to pivot to win-now moves. Timelines and all that
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Post#2810 » by ogmagicfan » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:04 am

Read on Twitter


Least assists per game in the NBA.

Why I'm not sold on Simons, Sexton, Coby White being our solution at PG. Then again increasing the pace would help on that
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Post#2811 » by KillMonger » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:26 am

ogmagicfan wrote:
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Least assists per game in the NBA.

Why I'm not sold on Simons, Sexton, Coby White being our solution at PG. Then again increasing the pace would help on that

well who's the solution then? who ARE you sold on?
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Post#2812 » by ogmagicfan » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:30 am

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ogmagicfan wrote:
Read on Twitter


Least assists per game in the NBA.

Why I'm not sold on Simons, Sexton, Coby White being our solution at PG. Then again increasing the pace would help on that

well who's the solution then? who ARE you sold on?


I'm not sure there's anyone avaliable that is the solution. Maybe other players emerge as available after the playoffs/offseasons.

We could get one of the 3 I listed above as a stopgap, which I'm fine with as long as we're not sending multiple 1st and/or AB.

FVV is the closest thing to potentially available that would be more of a solution, but that would take Houston being out on him, which I lean towards not expecting.
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Post#2813 » by KillMonger » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:39 am

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KillMonger wrote:
ogmagicfan wrote:
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Least assists per game in the NBA.

Why I'm not sold on Simons, Sexton, Coby White being our solution at PG. Then again increasing the pace would help on that

well who's the solution then? who ARE you sold on?


I'm not sure there's anyone avaliable that is the solution. Maybe other players emerge as available after the playoffs/offseasons.

We could get one of the 3 I listed above as a stopgap, which I'm fine with as long as we're not sending multiple 1st and/or AB.

FVV is the closest thing to potentially available that would be more of a solution, but that would take Houston being out on him, which I lean towards not expecting.

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Post#2814 » by CarraT » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:49 am

eyriq wrote:
KillMonger wrote:Any Germans on the board? Anyone can translate what Franz is saying here?

https://youtube.com/shorts/jkbBhd9ZU3M?feature=shared

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Here's a summary of the video:
Franz Wagner discusses his shot and whether he made any changes to it.
Here are the key points:
* He attempted to modify his shot last summer, but it didn't feel right [00:18].
* He believes his shot is better this season compared to last season [00:35].
* He thinks he is on the right track, but it will take time [00:41].
Do you have any other questions about this video?


To clarify this, he said he changed his shot in summer of 2023. That didn´t feel right, the form was inconsistent, so he changed again last summer, feels better this season, but takes time.
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Post#2815 » by pepe1991 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:37 am

Lowe and some other podcasters are taking jabs at Magic FO and make mockery of our offense whole season long.

I listen to one podcast ( from my country) where 3 very smart basketball people were grilling Magic offense saying they would defend us 4 on5 and have one guy standing below our rim, because 5 men aren't needed to defend Magic "offense".
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Post#2816 » by cedric76 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:48 am

pepe1991 wrote:Lowe and some other podcasters are taking jabs at Magic FO and make mockery of our offense whole season long.

I listen to one podcast ( from my country) where 3 very smart basketball people were grilling Magic offense saying they would defend us 4 on5 and have one guy standing below our rim, because 5 men aren't needed to defend Magic "offense".


change podcast :-)
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Post#2817 » by Fortune Teller » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:38 am

Same thing the national media were saying during the Cavs series last year. Worst guard rotation in the league, terrible shooting, no point guard. Jeff sat on his hands. He held all the cards last summer, holds nothing this summer.
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Post#2818 » by YosemiteSam » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:49 pm

Darth Magic wrote:We need a scoring, play making point guard who is ALSO a knockdown 3pt shooter. We need a rim running, screen setting, shot blocking, lob catching centre, we need a guard who is a 6th man of the year candidate who can score in bunches off the bench.


Oh, that's all? Sounds easy, those kinds of players just lying around everywhere.
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Post#2819 » by basketballRob » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:49 pm

Fortune Teller wrote:Same thing the national media were saying during the Cavs series last year. Worst guard rotation in the league, terrible shooting, no point guard. Jeff sat on his hands. He held all the cards last summer, holds nothing this summer.
I don't remember them saying that during the Cavs series

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Post#2820 » by eyriq » Tue Apr 22, 2025 12:51 pm

basketballRob wrote:
Fortune Teller wrote:Same thing the national media were saying during the Cavs series last year. Worst guard rotation in the league, terrible shooting, no point guard. Jeff sat on his hands. He held all the cards last summer, holds nothing this summer.
I don't remember them saying that during the Cavs series

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The series where Suggs was emerging as a top 50 player and 3rd option at the age of 22? The rest of the guard rotation was rough, though.

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