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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#161 » by ezmoney707 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:02 am

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HEZI wrote:KAT has shrunk in the playoffs throughout his career. It’s not surprising to see him struggle. Even with the Pistons throwing double teams at him you still want to see more assertiveness and aggression from him and he just didn’t bring that. He’s probably more ideal in a 3rd option role and this team doesn’t have that true 2nd option. Not that it’s needed to beat the Pistons though, I think we can and should still win this series but after that we need to seriously evaluate this roster and ask ourselves are they really capable of being better or is this basically the peak of who we are

Yes he should have been more assertive but there’s no reason you don’t run more looks for him to put him in different actions that would open the floor up for the team or for him to get better looks.

We ran a very nonsensical offense tonight, even with a poor whistle all game being as stagnant as they were was inexcusable in that 2nd half, made for an easy gameplan defensively for DET


Honestly once they started doubling Towns he became a liability offensively. The problem with Towns is that he cannot create looks for others consistently. He is predictable offensively and the Pistons weren’t allowing him to get an easy shot off from three. You can say “run more actions for Towns” but the Pistons knew exactly how they should attack him.

Knowing that they were doubling him the counter is to put him pick n rolls and make the pistons make quick decisions on those screens rather than go to the post. Even if you don’t give him the ball on those rolls it forces Duren and Tobias to make decisions that will open the floor for everyone else.

Him not being in any actions other than just standing in the corner or the Top of the key was a waste of minutes.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#162 » by Capn'O » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:02 am

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that and free throws was the game. he's right.


Especially that stretch in the 3rd. God we couldn't throw water in the ocean on offense and then couldn't get the ball back for like 9 minutes.

We win the game if we hold on possession in the 3rd.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#163 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:02 am

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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#164 » by dakomish23 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:03 am

Even DET was doing something other than ISO plays down the stretch
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#165 » by TKKnicks1 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:04 am

drp07644 wrote:How did this team become so flawed so fast?


I'm assuming you watched the game tonight and I'm assuming you've watched this team the entire season. What happened tonight is nothing new. It's been happening all season. Our offense is pure garbage. We don't even have basic high school basketball sets. It's just heavy ISO like it's been from the day Thibs got here. Our defense sucks cuz Thibs needs a strong 5 on D and we only have a strong 5 on O. Thibs doesn't know how to utilize that so he just gives it to JB and hopes her can create for himself and for everyone around him. It's what he did with Rose. It's what he did with Butler. It's what he did with Lavine. It's what he did with Randle and it's now what he's doing with Brunson.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#166 » by Capn'O » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:04 am

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Already is.... he needed to be more "agressive" in attacking the doubles. :lol:


he kinda did tho. he looked like randle in the 3rd handling doubles.

was -10 too which is double what anyone else was. mitch was +3. hello kg :lol:


Posting up kat itself is kinda dumb. He is an elite 3 point shooter run some damn PnR with him. Free him up. Just running post ups is dumb.


We should be doing a little of both and we did neither.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#167 » by LFGK » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:05 am

I mean everyone complaining about iso and all that but Brunson made the rite reads, guys gotta hit their shots. Knicks will win game 3 and 4, tend to play more free on the road.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#168 » by Guano » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:07 am

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that and free throws was the game. he's right.


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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#169 » by Adelheid » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:07 am

when i think about it, 1st game could have been a loss to if it werent for champayne
towns only had 11 shot attempts jfc - and he is one of the knicks' allstar duo
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#170 » by HEZI » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:08 am

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I don't mind **** on KAT, but this was a coaching problem because you can't tell me there's zero offensive plays out there in the league that can get KAT a couple of 3's.


KAT is very capable of getting 3s when his juices are flowing. He gets his juices flowing when he’s able to mix it up and see a few go in from inside. But his interior game got shut down and because he wasn’t in any type of flow he wasn’t even looking to really shoot.


Couple of his post ups were stoned by Tobis freakin' Harris. There was no offensive flow to get his juices going. I just don't get how he can't pick and pop like KP but then I look at how light his screens are to begin with.


That’s part of it but also we just don’t have the snipers and ball handlers to take the pressure off. I mean KP had 5 points and went like 1-8 and 0-2 from 3 last game against Orlando. Imagine if that was KAT :lol:
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#171 » by RHODEY » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:08 am

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RHODEY wrote:Sorry but Ragu would not have missed all those critical 3's. I counted 4 of them that Mikal bricked. They say we have a problem with Detroit's length nut really we have a problem with their motor , strength, and athleticism.

I would move Bridges for 2 roleplayers that were playoff performers. We needed athletic players and another facilitator that will get into the game... preferably over 6'4"/ Thibs should be gone but this team definitely lost too much when Ragu and Ihart left the building.


This was an ice out on both KAT and Mikal. Mikal had the hot hand going into the 2nd half and the game plan completely went away from him. I don't know WTF to think of KAT. There was one play where he was struggling to score over Harris. WTF what was that?


Mikal has a hot hand when the game is loose but at critical junctions off the dribble,he'll miss that 3 most of the time. He handle is kinda weak, I notice that he doesn't have confidence to push the ball when the fast break is there, instead he slows down, his passes are often weak, and he's physically weak. . I still think hes a good players overall l just not the right fit for us...still worth the 5 high schoolers we gave to the lowly garbage nets :lol:
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#172 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:10 am

Guano wrote:
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Already is.... he needed to be more "agressive" in attacking the doubles. :lol:


he kinda did tho. he looked like randle in the 3rd handling doubles.

was -10 too which is double what anyone else was. mitch was +3. hello kg :lol:


Posting up kat itself is kinda dumb. He is an elite 3 point shooter run some damn PnR with him. Free him up. Just running post ups is dumb.




It's the same thing from the regular season, Tom sees what he thinks is a mismatch and just goes crazy with trying to post up. The Celtics post up a lot, but they do it off screens, they don't just come down the court and toss the ball into the low block, they run a screen, get your big on one of their guards or wings and your guard/wings on KP then they try to get him the ball.

We post up like it's 1993 and teams can't play zone, anytime you try to post up with no movement the center guarding Hart is basically just providing weakside help D in a one man zone. We haven't done well dealing with that all season and just go into "toss it into the low block".
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#173 » by Butch718 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:10 am

Pistons shot the ball awfully from 3, but severely out rebounded NY despite missing Stew, and managed to win.

Honestly, I would not be surprised to see this series go to 7 games or to see to see them lose.

This team will not suddenly figure things out, I’ve been saying this for at least a month now. To think otherwise is to just completely ignore the warning signs for the past 3 months. They were completely lost as a team heading into the post season. This team is so far from being a contender, and they deserve to be clowned and disrespected by media.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#175 » by Calinks » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:10 am

Red Vines wrote:It feels like JB and KAT play on two different teams.

Which is weird because early in the season I was loving their early chemsitry.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#176 » by Butch718 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:13 am

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Red Vines wrote:It feels like JB and KAT play on two different teams.

Which is weird because early in the season I was loving their early chemsitry.


It’s on Thibs and his staff to run plays that maximize their skill sets. It’s been amateur hour, and a lesson on what not to do if you’re an NBA coach,
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#177 » by seren » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:14 am

I am watching the Denver game. They have no problem running pick and roll after pick and roll with Murray/Jokic combo - even when Westbrook is in the game. Why we are forbidden to do the same, I have no idea.
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Post#178 » by prophet_of_rage » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:15 am

Red Vines wrote:I thought we changed the roster so that JB wouldn't have to play hero ball... Now it seems like he's just comfortable doing that and the coach has no better ideas.
The roster encourages more hero ball.

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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#179 » by Buttah304 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:16 am

Not for nothing, but the Knicks being historically bad in PACE directly coincides with how much Thibs relies on Brunson to ISO & freestyle.

Our offense can be summed up by patiently waiting to get Jalen the ball after a missed FT or FGA. He gets hounded/bumped and we use up nearly 8 seconds to cross mid court. Josh Hart sets his 37th non threatening screen of the night, Jalen dances for another few seconds 27 feet out and our possession officially begins with 7 seconds left.

We do not seek advantages, mismatches or transition opportunities. We are slow, predictable and we are addicted to letting the defense get set like the crack epidemic in the early 80s.

You could find more imagination making instant ramen tonight then you would watching this team get coached offensively. Towns and Brunson have as much chemistry as oil and water. Shamet/Payne had a poor 3min stretch in the 2nd so they got vanished like General Zod to the phantom zone for the rest of the game. No play calling or running action to either instill confidence or catch the opponent sleeping. We specifically added players to lessen the burden on Jalen but the weight on his shoulders looks twice as heavy.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#180 » by kNicksGmen » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:17 am

we should have traded for Duren.

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