PG: that sucked

[LFGK]

Play Mitch more play Hart less and we'll win. Also put someone besides OG on Cade in spots and then crowd him with OG. Let OG guard him straight up in crunch time.

This is exactly it, You combat the issues we're having on the boards. If your going to have someone in their that the Pistons are going to sag off of on the defensive end I rather it Mitch rite now. He will at least get boards(lead the team in only 20 min yest) and man the middle. They also need to just all out blitz Cade on the screens he's getting, Force it out of his hand. Cant have OG on him the entire game only to have him switched off for most of the plays. If they make the simple switch to Mitch, series gets flipped and I truly believe they will play better on the road. Still think we win this in 5.

[god shammgod]

how do you guys expect to reign in jalen brunon's usage when his godfather is the gm, his close family friend is the coach, his actual father is on the coaching staff and you traded for all of his college teammates ? you also got him to agree to take less money for "the family". now you think you can take the ball out of his hands ? he's running the team lol

[3toheadmelo]

how do you guys expect to reign in jalen brunon's usage when his godfather is the gm, his close family friend is the coach, his actual father is on the coaching staff and you traded for all of his college teammates ? you also got him to agree to take less money for "the family". now you think you can take the ball out of his hands ? he's running the team lol

And why would we want the ball out of Brunson’s hands? You guys want Mikal and Josh hart ISOs? Or watch KAT turn the ball over when he’s double teamed?

[TheGreenArrow]

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[LFGK]

how do you guys expect to reign in jalen brunon's usage when his godfather is the gm, his close family friend is the coach, his actual father is on the coaching staff and you traded for all of his college teammates ? you also got him to agree to take less money for "the family". now you think you can take the ball out of his hands ? he's running the team lol

And why would we want the ball out of Brunson’s hands? You guys want Mikal and Josh hart ISOs? Or watch KAT turn the ball over when he’s double teamed?

people just saying anything man, yes get it out of Brunson's hands, as if he isn't being efficient. Bridges hits a 3, we prob win yesterdays game. Still not sure how that and 1 wasn't called on the Hart layup, I'm fine with the way they are officiating the game, what I am not fine with is how inconsistent they are and how things are a foul on 1 end and not the other. 34 to 19 Free throw difference is a bit nuts. Cade gets calls on one end, Brunson and Kat don't get the same call on the other, and the 19 FT was ballooned a bit in the 4th because of how early we were in the bonus. Long rant but excuses can't be made, play better, play mitch more with KAT and we come back home up 3-1.

[MrDollarBills]

I would love to know what he does besides tell players play hard or you'll sit. When he put Kat at center, the talk was about how we are going to utilize one of the best three point shooters in the league by running a 5 out offense....it was the whole point of him being at center.....instead we are running this read and react, street ball offense which lead to him taking two three pointers tonight.

Thibs is a guy who can maximize athletic, defensive players who need minutes, structure and discipline, let them go out there, run around and do what they do, and lock it up on defense. Give him some talent that play a tick less hard because they have to carry his nonexistent offense, and he's lost, because now the adjustments are to be made on offense, which he's clueless of. It's the whole reason why he runs this nonsense and lets players do whatever they want to do.

He's maxed out, we seriously need someone young with fresh ideas and ways to utilize the talent on this team. No retreads. It's frustrating to watch other teams run modern offenses while we are stuck in the stone age.

mike malone = rethread
most hc in the nba are just like above

johnnie bryant could be the next man up

Bryant was the Thibs Whisperer. I'm convince of this. Because '24 Thibs and '25 Thibs are virtually different coaches.

I feel like Tom has been worse this year than the last two years. Coincidence? Maybe not.

[MrDollarBills]

No team with KAT and Mitch should be getting outrebounded.

Cam Payne 4 mins.

The ball doesn't move.

So on and so forth.

[F N 11]

Nobody wanna say it but Pistons in control. I’m going to focus on draft maybe Knicks will somehow be better.

[mpharris36]

how do you guys expect to reign in jalen brunon's usage when his godfather is the gm, his close family friend is the coach, his actual father is on the coaching staff and you traded for all of his college teammates ? you also got him to agree to take less money for "the family". now you think you can take the ball out of his hands ? he's running the team lol

because he needs a coach that builds and offensive system around him not just let him do whatever he wants.

Let me ask you a question I was just re-watching our playoff series 2 years ago vs CLE. With randle hurt we were playing a majority of of that series with

Brunson
RJ
Hart
Obi
Mitch

can you tell me we play any bit of a different style of ball with that lineup then the lineup we have now?

How many people hated RJ and Obi....and now we have KAT, Mikal, and OG and we play the exact same way we did two years ago...brunson hero ball. How can you justify that?

And its not I don't want Brunson with the ball...I want more creative ways to get him the ball...not him walking up the ball using 20 seconds on the shot clock and taking a difficult shot....move him off the ball his C&S effectiveness is off the charts...utilize him in different ways...actually use your modern day big....this isn't rocket science.

[Clyde_Style]

No team with KAT and Mitch should be getting outrebounded.

Cam Payne 4 mins.

The ball doesn't move.

So on and so forth.

At no time should Brunson take more shots than KAT, but here we are

This team just gave up home court advantage. Not sure they have the fight in them to get it back.

[mpharris36]

No team with KAT and Mitch should be getting outrebounded.

Cam Payne 4 mins.

The ball doesn't move.

So on and so forth.

At no time should Brunson take more shots than KAT, but here we are

This team just gave up home court advantage. Not sure they have the fight in them to get it back.

Disagree with your first statement...guards will typically make more shots than bigs especially in the playoffs because KAT isn't going to create his own look as much as Brunson can...however its damn disrespectful to the game...that a big with KAT's offensive skill and your coach can scheme him open for a shot for an entire 4th qtr of play....I mean what are we doing here...to not even get a shot?

[TKKnicks1]

I'm sorry I've been a die hard Knicks fan for far too long to see Thibs ruin this current squad that's unarguably the most talented we have had in decades. I am now hoping we lose this first round so Thibs can pack his clown show and hit the road. I'm willing to sacrifice this season if it gets us a new coach. There's only a 3-4 year window left with these guys. What the hell is management waiting for?!

[rajajackal]

kg and prophet ate a lot of **** for calling out what ended up losing us this game lol

[Clyde_Style]

No team with KAT and Mitch should be getting outrebounded.

Cam Payne 4 mins.

The ball doesn't move.

So on and so forth.

At no time should Brunson take more shots than KAT, but here we are

This team just gave up home court advantage. Not sure they have the fight in them to get it back.

Disagree with your first statement...guards will typically make more shots than bigs especially in the playoffs because KAT isn't going to create his own look as much as Brunson can...however its damn disrespectful to the game...that a big with KAT's offensive skill and your coach can scheme him open for a shot for an entire 4th qtr of play....I mean what are we doing here...to not even get a shot?

OK, not a hard rule exactly, but it is often close to a 2:1 ratio which is not utilizing KAT properly

[spree8]

If you were to tell me back after we made the blockbuster trades, that come Rd1 we’d almost lose game 1 and lose game 2 at home vs Tim Hardaway Jr, Tobias Harris and Dennis Schroder, I’d probably report you

[mpharris36]

Also this is nitpicky but it matters....why do we have Brunson slowly walk the ball up the floor as he being picked up full court? Isn't that just extra energy we are wasting...if Hart is in the game and the center is on him...why can he just push the ball into the front court and initiate the offense...even if its just to hand it back to Brunson we will do that much quicker than a using like 6-7 seconds to walk it up before we even get into our offense.

just no creativity...

[rajajackal]

Also this is nitpicky but it matters....why do we have Brunson slowly walk the ball up the floor as he being picked up full court? Isn't that just extra energy we are wasting...if Hart is in the game and the center is on him...why can he just push the ball into the front court and initiate the offense...even if its just to hand it back to Brunson we will do that much quicker than a using like 6-7 seconds to walk it up before we even get into our offense.

just no creativity...

like many have pointed out, brunson's dad is the associate head coach

[rajajackal]

Rotation should look like:

C: Robinson (25), Towns (12), Precious (11)
PF: Towns (26), Hart (22)
SF: Anunoby (35), Hart (8), Bridges (5)
SG: Bridges (30), McBride (18)
PG: Brunson (35), Payne (13)

9 man rotation. No starter plays more than 35 minutes on average. McBride gets 18 min off the bench, Hart 30, Payne 13 and Precious 11. Mitch replaces Hart in the starting lineup, the way this team was originally designed.

38 for Towns?

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[LFGK]

No team with KAT and Mitch should be getting outrebounded.

Cam Payne 4 mins.

The ball doesn't move.

So on and so forth.

At no time should Brunson take more shots than KAT, but here we are

This team just gave up home court advantage. Not sure they have the fight in them to get it back.

it's literally 1 game lol. 3 other squads also lost a home game. They will be fine, will play better on the road, more loose.

[MrDollarBills]

No team with KAT and Mitch should be getting outrebounded.

Cam Payne 4 mins.

The ball doesn't move.

So on and so forth.

At no time should Brunson take more shots than KAT, but here we are

This team just gave up home court advantage. Not sure they have the fight in them to get it back.

Disagree with your first statement...guards will typically make more shots than bigs especially in the playoffs because KAT isn't going to create his own look as much as Brunson can...however its damn disrespectful to the game...that a big with KAT's offensive skill and your coach can scheme him open for a shot for an entire 4th qtr of play....I mean what are we doing here...to not even get a shot?

Brunson taking more shots than KAT isn't my issue. It's the stagnation. The ball doesn't move. Guys just stand around and watch.

We watched OG put up consistent scoring over a decent sample size. Yet he can't get any touches?

Karl not getting any looks in the 2nd half.

All of this is coaching. How can anyone watch how awful the offense looks and think yeah, more of this?

Move the ball ffs