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SirKen wrote:Hate Clippers but cheering for Kawhi and Norm.
Imagine if we kept Norm over Fred for salary shedding for Giannis back in the day...
Los_29 wrote:SirKen wrote:Hate Clippers but cheering for Kawhi and Norm.
Imagine if we kept Norm over Fred for salary shedding for Giannis back in the day...
Problem with Norm is he’s so limited and doesn’t really impact the game. He’s an efficient scorer, but a weak defensive player, bad playmaker and is prone to defensive and offensive lapses.
Fred is far more inefficient but he has a bigger impact on the game.
WhatsaTDot wrote:Basketball_Jones wrote:Knicks lack of depth is a problem. Gone are the days where you don’t need a deep roster in a series.
Gonna get banged up from this series and with a lot of minutes on those bodies. Doesnt bode well for a long playoff run.
Los_29 wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:UnderdogRaptors wrote:Knicks suck lmao
Thibs has to go. Non existent offensive scheme. They iso Brunson last 5 minutes and KAT zero touches.
Is that Thibs or Brunson? Brunson has never been a good playmaker and he seems to have always been iso heavy. That’s why I’ve always viewed them as a pretender. A first or second round team with the potential to possibly get to a CF with good matchups.
WaltFrazier wrote:Los_29 wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:Thibs has to go. Non existent offensive scheme. They iso Brunson last 5 minutes and KAT zero touches.
Is that Thibs or Brunson? Brunson has never been a good playmaker and he seems to have always been iso heavy. That’s why I’ve always viewed them as a pretender. A first or second round team with the potential to possibly get to a CF with good matchups.
The coach is ultimately responsible. I'd like to think a new coach could get more of a two man game out of the two all Stars Brunson and Kat. A la Kenny Atkinson in Cleveland. And use the other players in the flow of offense as well.
I agree he's not a Chris Paul floor general. I do think the next step is to try a different coach. If they lose this series I think it'll happen. If they win and then lose in 4 or 5 to Boston as seems likely, I'm not sure what will happen. The Knicks board has Thibs defenders but I think leans towards the sentiment of their "Thibs Must Go" thread.
Basketball_Jones wrote:I’m a believer in Mikael Bridges but they really needed like two of him to be contenders him alone wasn’t enough.
Los_29 wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:Los_29 wrote:
Is that Thibs or Brunson? Brunson has never been a good playmaker and he seems to have always been iso heavy. That’s why I’ve always viewed them as a pretender. A first or second round team with the potential to possibly get to a CF with good matchups.
The coach is ultimately responsible. I'd like to think a new coach could get more of a two man game out of the two all Stars Brunson and Kat. A la Kenny Atkinson in Cleveland. And use the other players in the flow of offense as well.
I agree he's not a Chris Paul floor general. I do think the next step is to try a different coach. If they lose this series I think it'll happen. If they win and then lose in 4 or 5 to Boston as seems likely, I'm not sure what will happen. The Knicks board has Thibs defenders but I think leans towards the sentiment of their "Thibs Must Go" thread.
Walt, if they lose this series then a lot more need to go. Not just Thibs. You can’t lose to a big 3 of Cade, Tobias Harris and Malik Beasley. That’s inexcusable especially since they gave up all of their picks.
You have to seriously question management if they have another 1st-2nd round exit. They’ve gone all in. When that happens, you need results.
M3tro wrote:Clippers winning the chip would be the most Kawhi thing possible.
Wins a title with us than bounces to LA where he's met with disappointments, doubts, criticism and injuries for 6 years....only to eventually rise from the ashes and nab another one.
I'm here for it.
HiJiNX wrote:Midrange shot is bad says the analytics.
Kawhi says, “nah.”
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
M3tro wrote:Clippers winning the chip would be the most Kawhi thing possible.
Wins a title with us than bounces to LA where he's met with disappointments, doubts, criticism and injuries for 6 years....only to eventually rise from the ashes and nab another one.
I'm here for it.
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
Los_29 wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:Los_29 wrote:
Is that Thibs or Brunson? Brunson has never been a good playmaker and he seems to have always been iso heavy. That’s why I’ve always viewed them as a pretender. A first or second round team with the potential to possibly get to a CF with good matchups.
The coach is ultimately responsible. I'd like to think a new coach could get more of a two man game out of the two all Stars Brunson and Kat. A la Kenny Atkinson in Cleveland. And use the other players in the flow of offense as well.
I agree he's not a Chris Paul floor general. I do think the next step is to try a different coach. If they lose this series I think it'll happen. If they win and then lose in 4 or 5 to Boston as seems likely, I'm not sure what will happen. The Knicks board has Thibs defenders but I think leans towards the sentiment of their "Thibs Must Go" thread.
Walt, if they lose this series then a lot more need to go. Not just Thibs. You can’t lose to a big 3 of Cade, Tobias Harris and Malik Beasley. That’s inexcusable especially since they gave up all of their picks.
You have to seriously question management if they have another 1st-2nd round exit. They’ve gone all in. When that happens, you need results.
Boogie! wrote:M3tro wrote:Clippers winning the chip would be the most Kawhi thing possible.
Wins a title with us than bounces to LA where he's met with disappointments, doubts, criticism and injuries for 6 years....only to eventually rise from the ashes and nab another one.
I'm here for it.
Kawhi is a great player. But is that clippers team built to win a championship? I still don’t think that raptors team gets enough credit for how good they were as a team… elite combination of length, defense, iq, and shooting… good mix of role players and players who’s skill sets complimented each other. Kawhi still needs a great team around him to go all the way. I’m not too familiar with the clippers roster other than norm and harden of course, but again is that a cohesive TEAM.
"I'm just happy that I'm able to move," Leonard said after the game. "That's what I'm taking pride in is just being healthy. I sat and watched these playoff games and series the past two years. So being able to be frontline out there, it just feels good for me no matter which way the game goes."
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Leonard was equally impactful on defense, holding Nuggets players to just five points on 2-of-12 shooting when he was the primary defender. Leonard's crucial steal on a Nikola Jokic pass with 38 seconds remaining helped secure the victory with the Clippers leading by just three points.
Despite facing criticism for his limited availability in recent years, Leonard has remained focused on the present rather than dwelling on past injuries.
"Tonight, s---, I don't feel like he missed a shot," James Harden said of Leonard's performance. "His shotmaking ability is elite. And that's the aggressiveness that we need from him. Doesn't matter what's going on, or who's guarding him, he just got to a spot and raised up. He's a big-time player."
