ImageImage

Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin

Moderators: paulpressey25, MickeyDavis

User avatar
MickeyDavis
Global Mod
Global Mod
Posts: 103,755
And1: 56,028
Joined: May 02, 2002
Location: The Craps Table
     

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1141 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Apr 21, 2025 10:55 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Jabari is autistic.

Jabari was drafted 11 years ago, hard to compare that time to now.

The more things change..

Maybe. The medical regime has been upgraded significantly since the Kohl era and I would hope/think there have been upgrades in other areas as well.
I'm against picketing but I don't know how to show it.
User avatar
Baddy Chuck
RealGM
Posts: 51,279
And1: 25,432
Joined: Apr 18, 2006
 

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1142 » by Baddy Chuck » Mon Apr 21, 2025 11:05 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:Jabari was drafted 11 years ago, hard to compare that time to now.

The more things change..

Maybe. The medical regime has been upgraded significantly since the Kohl era and I would hope/think there have been upgrades in other areas as well.

I'm not making any declarations, I'm just laughing at the full circle motions of "Kuzma is out of shape and might have a mental disorder" after all the Jabari stuff. (or Larry, or Khris, or Bogut, or Redd, or whoever)
John Henson wrote:This lady just asked me who I play for and I said the Milwaukee Bucks, she quickly replied “oh the highschool across the street?”
User avatar
AussieBuck
RealGM
Posts: 42,269
And1: 20,743
Joined: May 10, 2006
Location: Bucks in 7?
 

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1143 » by AussieBuck » Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:29 am

Banchero is basically the guy Jabari could have been if things worked out.
emunney wrote:
We need a man shaped like a chicken nugget with the shot selection of a 21st birthday party.


GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
if you combined jabari parker, royal ivey, a shrimp and a ball sack youd have javon carter
User avatar
BUCKnation
RealGM
Posts: 19,746
And1: 4,329
Joined: Jun 15, 2011
       

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1144 » by BUCKnation » Tue Apr 22, 2025 2:41 pm

AussieBuck wrote:Banchero is basically the guy Jabari could have been if things worked out.

Worse defender, more athletic banchero is basically the comp I made when that highlight tape was going around a few weeks ago
User avatar
AussieBuck
RealGM
Posts: 42,269
And1: 20,743
Joined: May 10, 2006
Location: Bucks in 7?
 

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1145 » by AussieBuck » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:52 pm

BUCKnation wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Banchero is basically the guy Jabari could have been if things worked out.

Worse defender, more athletic banchero is basically the comp I made when that highlight tape was going around a few weeks ago

Unless I've just caught bad games, Banchero seems to be quite the horrible defender himself.
emunney wrote:
We need a man shaped like a chicken nugget with the shot selection of a 21st birthday party.


GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
if you combined jabari parker, royal ivey, a shrimp and a ball sack youd have javon carter
User avatar
Baddy Chuck
RealGM
Posts: 51,279
And1: 25,432
Joined: Apr 18, 2006
 

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1146 » by Baddy Chuck » Wed Apr 30, 2025 10:37 pm

Kyle Kuzma.

Damn.
John Henson wrote:This lady just asked me who I play for and I said the Milwaukee Bucks, she quickly replied “oh the highschool across the street?”
KidA24
RealGM
Posts: 11,028
And1: 11,308
Joined: Nov 01, 2012

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1147 » by KidA24 » Thu May 1, 2025 12:27 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:Kyle Kuzma.

Damn.


Posted this in the PG thread but I'm gonna put it here too.

Kyle. Kuzma.

Amos Barshad: "So you got a job, a place to live, a license? What’s left?"

Giannis: “Nothing. Just get a ring now.”
User avatar
Baddy Chuck
RealGM
Posts: 51,279
And1: 25,432
Joined: Apr 18, 2006
 

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1148 » by Baddy Chuck » Thu May 1, 2025 12:30 am

KidA24 wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:Kyle Kuzma.

Damn.


Posted this in the PG thread but I'm gonna put it here too.

Kyle. Kuzma.


Damn.
John Henson wrote:This lady just asked me who I play for and I said the Milwaukee Bucks, she quickly replied “oh the highschool across the street?”
User avatar
Dick Tate
Analyst
Posts: 3,345
And1: 2,892
Joined: Aug 17, 2006

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1149 » by Dick Tate » Thu May 1, 2025 12:52 am

Yes but the flexibility of getting under the 2nd apron...
Now Kuzma and Pat can be packaged for Jerami Grant!
ANTETOKOUNBROS
Veteran
Posts: 2,623
And1: 1,760
Joined: Apr 21, 2009
Location: Jokic's Kitchen
     

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1150 » by ANTETOKOUNBROS » Thu May 1, 2025 3:13 am

Kuzma always was a losing empty stats player, still can't believe we dealt positive assets for him.
User avatar
Coach Carter
General Manager
Posts: 8,998
And1: 6,799
Joined: Apr 28, 2017
   

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1151 » by Coach Carter » Thu May 1, 2025 4:29 am

Someone needs to do one of these for kuzma

Image
In reference to our title winning year
Coach Carter wrote:This year is a wash and most of us know it.
User avatar
Bernman
RealGM
Posts: 27,901
And1: 8,404
Joined: Aug 05, 2004
     

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1152 » by Bernman » Thu May 1, 2025 4:43 am

Coach Carter wrote:Someone needs to do one of these for kuzma

Image


You're going to get the lower tier aspect of that, because he's a lower tier player, but objectively was never near this bad.

The inefficiency is brought up, & yeah, he'd never hit league average efficiency. But he was consistently mediocre there, which is a lot better than this yr, or even Aaron Gordon was before he went to Denver.

So he sees the bump from probably getting in shape in the offseason unlike when he mailed it in for the Wiz tank squad. Then he needs to be convinced to be the good role player he indicated he could be early on. Not revert back to looking to get his. Otherwise he's going to get his in China.
tester551
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,557
And1: 1,270
Joined: Jan 10, 2005
Location: Missing the Coast & Trees

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1153 » by tester551 » Thu May 1, 2025 4:51 am

ANTETOKOUNBROS wrote:Kuzma always was a losing empty stats player, still can't believe we dealt positive assets for him.

Middleton was not a positive asset
ANTETOKOUNBROS
Veteran
Posts: 2,623
And1: 1,760
Joined: Apr 21, 2009
Location: Jokic's Kitchen
     

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1154 » by ANTETOKOUNBROS » Thu May 1, 2025 5:44 am

We should have got Brogdon instead.
User avatar
JayMKE
RealGM
Posts: 29,355
And1: 17,210
Joined: Jun 21, 2010
Location: LA
     

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1155 » by JayMKE » Thu May 1, 2025 9:43 am

Kuzma was obviously a bad player to target from the start, just a brutal trade

Middleton and AJJ >>>>>>>>>>> Kuzma for sure
FREE GIANNIS
User avatar
Wonka
General Manager
Posts: 9,228
And1: 6,080
Joined: Aug 19, 2012
 

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1156 » by Wonka » Thu May 1, 2025 3:51 pm

bucksfansince88
Analyst
Posts: 3,737
And1: 2,216
Joined: Sep 22, 2009
   

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1157 » by bucksfansince88 » Thu May 1, 2025 3:58 pm

Wonka wrote:

Sigh...


cant believe Haslam and Edens extended Horst!
User avatar
Bernman
RealGM
Posts: 27,901
And1: 8,404
Joined: Aug 05, 2004
     

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1158 » by Bernman » Thu May 1, 2025 4:01 pm

bucksfansince88 wrote:
Wonka wrote:

Sigh...


cant believe Haslam and Edens extended Horst!


Why? They knew he drafted AJJ & then Doc, w/ the blessing of Haslam, seemingly compelled him to be offloaded immediately w/ Midds for Kuz. So Horst was either brought back to continue to provide cover for these bad moves, or to have more autonomy to make less.
German Athens
Veteran
Posts: 2,759
And1: 2,308
Joined: Apr 10, 2015
 

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1159 » by German Athens » Thu May 1, 2025 4:04 pm

Wonka wrote:

Sigh...


JFC
dbrodz7
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,846
And1: 1,472
Joined: Apr 15, 2008
       

Re: Middleton/Johnson to Wash for Kuzma/Baldwin 

Post#1160 » by dbrodz7 » Thu May 1, 2025 9:55 pm

If we still had AJ you would at least have the prayer that he turns into an allstar level player to save the second Giannis stanza.
Misery loves company

Return to Milwaukee Bucks