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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#661 » by K_ick_God » Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:38 pm

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Buttah304 wrote:If these numbers don’t concern you then I feel as a group RealGM should get a collective lobotomy.

Brunson’s USG% on the year is around 28% and last night it was 39.4% - that represents a 40% increase.

NBA teams AVG time of possession in 24-25 was 14.4 seconds - Brunson himself was at 10.6 seconds in Game 2 in case you are wondering why we are never a hockey assist away from a functional possession. There is no mismatch hunting, transition oops, double screens, stagger screens, pin downs or curl plays. We don’t push the pace off a missed FG or FTA - it’s stuck in the mud.

As far as touches are concerned, Brunson had 104 last night when he was closer to 84 on the season.

In fact, if you look at game 2 as far as who Jalen passed the ball to, Bridges received 38, Hart 32 and KAT only had 12 passes delivered from JB.

This offense is an utter indictment of Thibs and it’s truly the worst coaching I’ve seen him do across 6 years as a Knick HC. He has no clue how to adapt to his player personnel or the opposing HC, he will never be proactive to seek a way to win on the margins. It’s laughable.


39.4% usage rate....i could just hope jalen's rotator cuffs are still in good condition with all that shooting


They’ve chosen the one path that is basically the surest one to defeat. Especially since they actually got a win and it could have sparked something but they went right back to the same plan. Most notably they benched Cam and got KAT no shots.

It’s a cliche but give Detroit credit. They are obviously forcing the Knicks back into their poor choices somehow — so maybe Thibs isn’t “choosing” this path and maybe JB isn’t either, but it’s just the wrong road.

But it’s reality and I don’t think it’s changing. It’s baked in. Thibs would have to become a diff coach overnight.

Detroit seems like the better team and I like their club so whatever.

Cade is someone I really like. Not as dynamic as Edwards but he’s a baller.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#662 » by G_K_F » Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:42 pm

Adelheid wrote:somehow i feel that the next 2-3 games will be the deciding factor if the FO will do something with thibs

I don't see it. There is too much familial relations for this dude to get fired.

And even if it did happen, the roster is still heavily flawed.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#663 » by K_ick_God » Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:49 pm

I’d literally rather watch KAT shoot half a dozen contested 3s and barrel in for another half dozen near offensives than watch JB inexplicably increase his usage rate by a lot just because it’s the playoffs.

Makes zero sense.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#664 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:07 pm

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Nah, I knew the benches wouldn't play, your man Gravy is always having arguments in his head. On this board, he's the equivalent of seeing somebody on 125th shadowboxing in their drawers while screaming at the top of their lungs that Abraham Lincoln isn't the Terminator.


very serious question:

broadway, st. nicholas, lenox, or lexington?



Worse near park ave, there's a drug clinic by there, and it's like the walking dead. Gravy out there in a suit & tie with karate pants on telling people Thibs will rise again.


that counts as lexington. i knew you had to mean over there. **** is unreal.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#665 » by WargamesX » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:25 pm

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The whole video he just goes in on how badly coached the game was, I think he called it atrocious.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#666 » by K_ick_God » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:27 pm

It's wonderful btw that we get to wait 72 hours to watch the Knicks toss the ball around purposelessly in a different arena.

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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#667 » by K_ick_God » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:28 pm

Look at that clip ... the NBA was like 10x better. That's the truth.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#668 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:31 pm

that was maybe their worst performance of the year, easily bottom 5, and they almost won.

another way to look at it, i guess.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#669 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:39 pm

WargamesX wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=W09F6FrMDfp5_y1gKYgF1g

The whole video he just goes in on how badly coached the game was, I think he called it atrocious.


can’t hear francesa without hearing the kid mero’s impersonation.

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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#670 » by WargamesX » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:40 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=W09F6FrMDfp5_y1gKYgF1g

The whole video he just goes in on how badly coached the game was, I think he called it atrocious.


can’t hear francesa without hearing the kid mero’s impersonation.


The thing that I realized is I think he is wearing dentures and slurring his words because of them. However even slurred he was speaking the truth…
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#671 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:44 pm

WargamesX wrote:
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WargamesX wrote:The whole video he just goes in on how badly coached the game was, I think he called it atrocious.


can’t hear francesa without hearing the kid mero’s impersonation.


The thing that I realized is I think he is wearing dentures and slurring his words because of them. However even slurred he was speaking the truth…


Yeah I don’t disagree with anything he said. And def don’t intend to make fun of having dentures. Just he’s been satirized so well it’s burned into my brain.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#672 » by G_K_F » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:44 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:that was maybe their worst performance of the year, easily bottom 5, and they almost won.

another way to look at it, i guess.

It’s on par with a lot of their performances. Both games have been.

This is not a great squad.

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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#673 » by BKlutch » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:48 pm

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You would be walking the ball up the court as well if you had to play 30 minutes straight which is what he did last night.


agreed on top of the 44 minutes he is bring the ball up nearly every time...off load some of the responsibilities on someone else especially if that mad man is going to play a guy the entire 2nd half.


Cam played 4 minutes.

It makes no sense.

It's makes a ton of sense because he did nothing useful in the first game, during that 21-0 run in the 4th.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#674 » by spree8 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:57 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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Josh Hart shouldn't be on the floor when guarded by a center, but, we get 40 minutes of the Josh Hart experience. He's being defended by a player not guarding him, and your coach can't see it, neither can you.

If we dont need a bench like you say then Josh Hart has to play, who else do you want.. more Deuce and Shamet bricks?




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You play a center Gravy, you play Mitch and KAT together if they're going to guard Josh with a C. The only way Josh can get around that is making a bunch of threes that makes Duren come out and guard him, or you take him off the floor and replace him with a big that makes it harder for them to switch on screens, and opens them up to rebounds. It also allows us to do exactly the same thing to them, which is guard Ausar with a C.


They play 2 non shooters...at the same time.



Dude stays trying to fight with these trash takes no matter how many L’s he takes. Almost as bad as Hezi

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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#675 » by whocares1 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:00 pm

KnicksGod wrote:I’d literally rather watch KAT shoot half a dozen contested 3s and barrel in for another half dozen near offensives than watch JB inexplicably increase his usage rate by a lot just because it’s the playoffs.

Makes zero sense.


Listen i don’t like the sound of either but if you think im trusting Towns…over Jalen Brunson…the guy who literally is about to win clutch player of the year. The guy that dropped 40 for like 5 straight games that hadn’t been done since LeBron James…yea i think id be pretty delusional.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#676 » by K_ick_God » Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:01 pm

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Jeff Van Gully wrote:that was maybe their worst performance of the year, easily bottom 5, and they almost won.

another way to look at it, i guess.

It’s on par with a lot of their performances. Both games have been.

This is not a great squad.

Paper champions.


I agree more with this. The team looks disjointed. Slashing / playmaking needs and they're amplified with Thibs.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#677 » by K_ick_God » Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:02 pm

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agreed on top of the 44 minutes he is bring the ball up nearly every time...off load some of the responsibilities on someone else especially if that mad man is going to play a guy the entire 2nd half.


Cam played 4 minutes.

It makes no sense.

It's makes a ton of sense because he did nothing useful in the first game, during that 21-0 run in the 4th.


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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#678 » by whocares1 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:04 pm

WargamesX wrote:
TheGreenArrow wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=46&t=W09F6FrMDfp5_y1gKYgF1g

The whole video he just goes in on how badly coached the game was, I think he called it atrocious.


The one thing that Mike might know is baseball. The last thing Mike would know is basketball lol.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#679 » by K_ick_God » Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:05 pm

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KnicksGod wrote:I’d literally rather watch KAT shoot half a dozen contested 3s and barrel in for another half dozen near offensives than watch JB inexplicably increase his usage rate by a lot just because it’s the playoffs.

Makes zero sense.


Listen i don’t like the sound of either but if you think im trusting Towns…over Jalen Brunson…the guy who literally is about to win clutch player of the year. The guy that dropped 40 for like 5 straight games that hadn’t been done since LeBron James…yea i think id be pretty delusional.


One-man games don't work. Not if it's all game. You save some for the end. The best players all did that. Melo didn't lol.

He's really good, nobody is saying he's as good as Kobe or MJ, obvs, but still. The approach is wrong. What reason on God's green earth should he be suddenly taking a lot more shots in the playoffs? If anything it should be less. They're keying on him more and able to plan for him in more granular detail.

You can't just throw out clutch player of the year. It's about wins. He's clearly doing too much. He missed plenty of clutch shots last night but most importantly, we were easy to defend, he played into their hands.
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Re: PG: that sucked 

Post#680 » by Gravy » Tue Apr 22, 2025 10:20 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Gravy wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

Josh Hart shouldn't be on the floor when guarded by a center, but, we get 40 minutes of the Josh Hart experience. He's being defended by a player not guarding him, and your coach can't see it, neither can you.

If we dont need a bench like you say then Josh Hart has to play, who else do you want.. more Deuce and Shamet bricks?




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You play a center Gravy, you play Mitch and KAT together if they're going to guard Josh with a C. The only way Josh can get around that is making a bunch of threes that makes Duren come out and guard him, or you take him off the floor and replace him with a big that makes it harder for them to switch on screens, and opens them up to rebounds. It also allows us to do exactly the same thing to them, which is guard Ausar with a C.


They play 2 non shooters...at the same time.

Mitch had zero points in 20 minutes, the roster needs players that can score. When Brunson is the only reliable scorer on the team there isnt much you can do.

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