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Post#3681 » by RichCollab » Tue Apr 22, 2025 4:37 am

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eyriq wrote:If we can pull that off it's a home run!


Naz Reid would be a great fit for this team. But he has options this summer. He can stay in Minnesota by exercising his player option or he can go else where

Naz Reid is going to get disgustingly paid this offseason. He will prob make something in the 30mil area. Way out of our range unless we sign and trade Issac or Dell.


Moe is kind of a poor man’s Naz.
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Post#3682 » by Knightro » Tue Apr 22, 2025 1:47 pm

OrlandoDream wrote:
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eyriq wrote:If we can pull that off it's a home run!


Naz Reid would be a great fit for this team. But he has options this summer. He can stay in Minnesota by exercising his player option or he can go else where

Naz Reid is going to get disgustingly paid this offseason. He will prob make something in the 30mil area. Way out of our range unless we sign and trade Issac or Dell.


There's only 1 team that has more than 20M in cap space for what it's worth and that's Brooklyn.
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Post#3683 » by three3d » Tue Apr 22, 2025 3:46 pm

Depending on who’s available at the 16th pick I wonder if Portland would be open to a draft day trade involving Wendell + the 16th pick for Simons.
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Post#3684 » by basketballRob » Tue Apr 22, 2025 5:55 pm

three3d wrote:Depending on who’s available at the 16th pick I wonder if Portland would be open to a draft day trade involving Wendell + the 16th pick for Simons.
Yes, they would.

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Post#3685 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 6:19 pm

Are there any players on any team that is stuck on the bench that seems ready for a breakout that we might be able to trade for? I think teams know that we are in desperate need of shooters and they will try and take advantage and ask for Suggs, Paolo, or Franz just to get deals done even if it’s for players no where near their caliber. But if we can find some bench players that teams are ready to move away from, that might be our better option.
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Post#3686 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:04 pm

Here's an easy one that i'd do yesterday.

Orlando Trades - Goga Bitadze
Knicks Trade- Miles McBride & PJ Tucker
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#3687 » by basketballRob » Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:06 pm

Nicole Alexander Walker is an FA. Bobby Portis is also an FA.

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Post#3688 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:11 pm

basketballRob wrote:Nicole Alexander Walker is an FA. Bobby Portis is also an FA.

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just don't see a way we get anyone in FA unless we struck out on any trade possible which would also mean Jeff didn't try and overvalued his 1 asset in AB
A scoring guard.. never heard of one. :roll:
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Post#3689 » by eyriq » Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:31 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:Here's an easy one that i'd do yesterday.

Orlando Trades - Goga Bitadze
Knicks Trade- Miles McBride & PJ Tucker
No thanks
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Post#3690 » by MartinsIzAfraud » Tue Apr 22, 2025 7:59 pm

eyriq wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:Here's an easy one that i'd do yesterday.

Orlando Trades - Goga Bitadze
Knicks Trade- Miles McBride & PJ Tucker
No thanks



it would be the start of 3 trades to complete our roster into something more capable to compete. 2nd and 3rd trades would be for a proper ball handling PG and a 3rd C plus extra's. Goga is everyone's fairytale but the dude is JAG
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Post#3691 » by basketballRob » Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:07 pm

Goga for Bobby Portis. I like Portis to help protect our players.

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Post#3692 » by MasterGMer » Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:36 pm

Trae Young a possibility in the summer?

Skybox, what would a potential trade look like? Thanks, buddy
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Post#3693 » by OrlChamps2030 » Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:42 pm

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Naz Reid would be a great fit for this team. But he has options this summer. He can stay in Minnesota by exercising his player option or he can go else where

Naz Reid is going to get disgustingly paid this offseason. He will prob make something in the 30mil area. Way out of our range unless we sign and trade Issac or Dell.


There's only 1 team that has more than 20M in cap space for what it's worth and that's Brooklyn.


What’s the full MLE going to be this offseason? Wouldn’t Naz Reid just accept his 15m option if the MLE is his only market?

He would be a great pickup though,I agree
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Post#3694 » by basketballRob » Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:44 pm

OrlChamps2030 wrote:
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OrlandoDream wrote:Naz Reid is going to get disgustingly paid this offseason. He will prob make something in the 30mil area. Way out of our range unless we sign and trade Issac or Dell.


There's only 1 team that has more than 20M in cap space for what it's worth and that's Brooklyn.


What’s the full MLE going to be this offseason? Wouldn’t Naz Reid just accept his 15m option if the MLE is his only market?

He would be a great pickup though,I agree
I think I'd rather have Portis over Naz.

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Post#3695 » by Skybox » Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:48 pm

three3d wrote:Depending on who’s available at the 16th pick I wonder if Portland would be open to a draft day trade involving Wendell + the 16th pick for Simons.


We'd have to add salary...quite a bit actually (not sure if the #16 salary counts). I think WCJ, Cole and #16 works.

Simons (25-26)...$27.7m
WCJ...$10.9 *goes to $18m the following season
Cole...$13.1 expiring filler?
Jett...$ 5.5m
or
Gary...$7.5 TO (I'd rather just not exercise his option OR re-sign him for $3.5m for 2 + 1 TO, but TO could be used for matching)

*the more guaranteed salary we can get off the better, imo. I don't want to throw in TdS or Caleb, who are worth more than their meager salaries. If we included TdS, I'd only add the DEN pick, not #16
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Post#3696 » by Skybox » Tue Apr 22, 2025 8:53 pm

basketballRob wrote:
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There's only 1 team that has more than 20M in cap space for what it's worth and that's Brooklyn.


What’s the full MLE going to be this offseason? Wouldn’t Naz Reid just accept his 15m option if the MLE is his only market?

He would be a great pickup though,I agree
I think I'd rather have Portis over Naz.

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I like Portis too and MIL's ship is sinking fast...He's got a $13.4 Player Option for next year.

I wonder if he'd (with MIL's blessing) opt in for a trade for Isaac straight up? He expires in a year, but he's versatile and can back up 4/5. If we end up drafting a guy like Sorber or (if he falls a bit) Collin-Murray Boyles, they can spend a year under his tutelage and replace Isaac's defensive versatility at forward spots). I'm not sayin they'll match Isaac's best, but I'm ready to move on from the constant uncertainty and limitations. Portis is a much better offensive player and rebounder too.
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Post#3697 » by basketballRob » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:04 pm

Skybox wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
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What’s the full MLE going to be this offseason? Wouldn’t Naz Reid just accept his 15m option if the MLE is his only market?

He would be a great pickup though,I agree
I think I'd rather have Portis over Naz.

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I like Portis too and MIL's ship is sinking fast...He's got a $13.4 Player Option for next year.

I wonder if he'd (with MIL's blessing) opt in for a trade for Isaac straight up? He expires in a year, but he's versatile and can back up 4/5. If we end up drafting a guy like Sorber or (if he falls a bit) Collin-Murray Boyles, they can spend a year under his tutelage and replace Isaac's defensive versatility at forward spots). I'm not sayin they'll match Isaac's best, but I'm ready to move on from the constant uncertainty and limitations. Portis is a much better offensive player and rebounder too.
I doubt if Milwaukee would take Isaac for Portis because they could just re-sign him for the amount Isaac gets. I was thinking we could trade them Goga and TDS for him and offer him a 2 yr extension. They need to get a younger center.

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Post#3698 » by Skybox » Tue Apr 22, 2025 9:22 pm

Combo of last few ideas (my choices :D )

ORL sends: WCJ, Cole Anthony, Tristan da Silva and #25 to POR for Anfernee Simons

ORL sends: Jonathan Isaac to MIL for Bobby Portis

ORL selects Collin Murray-Boyles at #16, Maxime Raynaud at #46, Tyrese Proctor at #57 (these are all pretty optimistic slides :P )

Decline TO of Gary Harris, Cory Joseph

Goga, (Moe), Portis, Raynaud
Paolo, Portis, Murray-Boyles
Franz, KCP, Houstan
Suggs, KCP, Queen
Simons, AB, Proctor

*After the dust settles, I'd be next (whenever) looking to upgrade Goga (maybe Raynaud impresses?) and I'd consider moving KCP for a REAL PG...perhaps Suggs or AB takes a PG-style leap and we promote from within - ultimately, I try to extend Simons for 4 yrs at $22m per and give him big minutes as 6th man flamethrower...but, in the meantime, this is a formidable backcourt on both ends. Portis is a really solid player and, to my surprise, only 29. He's a legit 6'10, 250, with a 7'2 wingspan and a mean streak - could he be a starting C who can spread the floor?

Maybe NEXT summer, Austin Reaves gets less and less satisfied being a distant third on LAL, especially with a $15m Player Option for 26-27 and feels his value is being diminished in Luka's shadow...maybe LAL salvages with a SnT for KCP and a frp before potentially losing Reaves to UFA?
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Post#3699 » by Skybox » Tue Apr 22, 2025 11:58 pm

DET is having the breakout season that we should have been enjoying. Very well assembled team around a superstar playmaker...They did it, primarily without Jaden Ivey.

I wonder if there's any realistic path to getting him. I could see DET looking for win-now supporting players to keep the ascension moving and I'm really not sure who we have that fits. It's not inconceivable that Ivey could be marginalized as primarily playing off-ball with Cade (or just backing him up). Beasley has emerged as Cade's perfect spot-running mate, so maybe Ivey is too good, too valuable for the role that's available. Just a thought.

KCP is THE finishing piece on this roster, a solid vet 3&D guy with reliable energy, etc...however, he makes too damn much vs his willingness to hunt shots (Last year it was Gary, but he wasn't getting paid enough to really get upset). AB also hasn't shown enough offense to make DET think he's any more attractive than Ausar and Holland. Duren is great and Beef Stew is great, but maybe they could use a guy like Isaac, but again, his minutes, etc make him a near negative, even at "only" $15m. Maybe Goga? They don't need an okay C to backup two flawed, but superior guys.

So, for those of you rattling off our "trade assets" :roll: don't get your hopes up...any significant move will have to involve serious draft equity and I don't think Weltman has the stomach for that...he'd rather keep drafting TdS-types (good pick, in a vacuum, for the draft position, but...where does he get you?). I really like TdS but if he's our most appealing asset, all things considered, we're looking at a quiet summer...I expect more on the level of Cory Joseph...good pickup, delivered some minutes in a bind, but :cry:

More "organic development" in store...

I could see a team like BRK moving on Ivey and betting he's got more in his young tank...DET also has cap space, I believe. Watch them end up with Cam Johnson or even Claxton for even more depth.
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Post#3700 » by basketballRob » Wed Apr 23, 2025 12:01 am

Portis is building up his value as soon as I say the Magic should target him. He does play backup center for the Bucks. He is a better player than Wendell, but I'm not he could be a full-time center.

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