2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 5

[BoyzNTheHood]

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Chomche > Maluach confirmed. lol


Also, haven't heard people talk about Asa Newell much.

Even if Chomche/Maluach is close in Maluach’s favour, there’s no reason to take him top 10. That’s just a wasted pick.

[Dalek]

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Chomche > Maluach confirmed. lol


Also, haven't heard people talk about Asa Newell much.

Even if Chomche/Maluach is close in Maluach’s favour, there’s no reason to take him top 10. That’s just a wasted pick.

I think Asa Newell is not that interesting because he is locked in as a PF and plays best at the rim which won't be as easy in the NBA. it isn't too exciting to draft an energy big that cannot cover fives or shoot from outside. There are literally dozens of G-League guys and guys in Europe that fit his profile. If he suddenly becomes a scary outside shooter, he might be something, because he looks like he can switch coverage on defense. Overall, he is very average to me.

To be fair, the same thing might be said for Noa Essengue, but the handle looks a bit better overall and the amount of fouls drawn is elite status for any player.

For Maluach, I don't see many if any draft experts not have him in the top 10. He is very mobile for his size and makes freethrows and has an outstanding standing reach. Why not take Maluach?

Chomche was nearly the last pick in a weak draft who just blew out his knee. He isn't anything to prevent you from drafting another big man who can potentially anchor your defense.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Chomche > Maluach confirmed. lol


Also, haven't heard people talk about Asa Newell much.

Even if Chomche/Maluach is close in Maluach’s favour, there’s no reason to take him top 10. That’s just a wasted pick.

I think Asa Newell is not that interesting because he is locked in as a PF and plays best at the rim which won't be as easy in the NBA. it isn't too exciting to draft an energy big that cannot cover fives or shoot from outside. There are literally dozens of G-League guys and guys in Europe that fit his profile. If he suddenly becomes a scary outside shooter, he might be something, because he looks like he can switch coverage on defense. Overall, he is very average to me.

To be fair, the same thing might be said for Noa Essengue, but the handle looks a bit better overall and the amount of fouls drawn is elite status for any player.

For Maluach, I don't see many if any draft experts not have him in the top 10. He is very mobile for his size and makes freethrows and has an outstanding standing reach. Why not take Maluach?

Chomche was nearly the last pick in a weak draft who just blew out his knee. He isn't anything to prevent you from drafting another big man who can potentially anchor your defense.

Why not take Maluach? You want to waste a top 10 pick on bargain bin Lively? Or Gobert minus the DPOY’s? Please.

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[Dalek]

Last year my guy was Jaylon Tyson who just screamed being an NBA level player with nice shot creation skills and high level IQ. He is not playing a lot on the Cavs but he recently dropped 31 in extended minutes.

This year, depending on if he stays in the draft process, Cedric Coward is a strong target at 39 for me. He was having an elite season until he had a shoulder injury. He is both in the draft but keeping his college options open.

Big wing / 3 and D with playmaking
6'6 senior - age 21 started in Division 3 ball
56/40/84 shooting splits on good volume
Averaged 18/8/4 plus 2 blocks and 1 steal

.700 TS%
.500 FTR%
20.7 AST%
5.3 BLK%
1.4 STL%
12 TRB%

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[Grew]

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Herro is an interesting comp for Tre. That would be a nice outcome.

[Clutch0z24]

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This guys top 10 is interesting to say the least he has Jase Richardson as high as 4....He doesn't have Maluach in his top 10 and says sim things i been saying about him as a project....So i think we are like minded on that....But i prolly pick Maluach over CMB.

[XTC]

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These are fake stats...

Draft experts on this board have been telling me Maluach can't block shots, or grab rebounds because Duke plays a complex defensive system requiring Maluach to switch all the time, and Flagg steals Maluach's rebounds.

He actually had 12 rebounds, and 6 blocks.

[DreamTeam09]

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These are fake stats...

Draft experts on this board have been telling me Maluach can't block shots, or grab rebounds because Duke plays a complex defensive system requiring Maluach to switch all the time, and Flagg steals Maluach's rebounds.

He actually had 12 rebounds, and 6 blocks.

Fake news circulating?

[Tripod]

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This guys top 10 is interesting to say the least he has Jase Richardson as high as 4....He doesn't have Maluach in his top 10 and says sim things i been saying about him as a project....So i think we are like minded on that....But i prolly pick Maluach over CMB.

When you go to Tankathon and look at each players stats being positive or negative, Jase stands out as being positive in everything but rebounding.

And he by far is 2nd best in the positive vs negative trailing only Flagg.

Will be interesting to see if it translates to NBA.

[mtcan]

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If we are picking at #7 and Ace is there...you take him and run. Ace's shot making is elite. Too much is made about his assist rate. And note that he rhymed off a bunch of guys with a similar assist rate and guess what...Gradey Dick and Ja'Kobe Walter were listed among them and both have pretty decent court vision and passing.

Bailey in Darko's system would absolutely be getting assists at a higher rate because of the quick decision making and emphasis on ball movement.

I can understand the MPJ comparisons but Bailey is just a bit bouncier. MPJ before the back issues was also pretty bouncy but MPJ with bounce is a really really good player. The injuries have sapped MPJ's athleticism.

There is no way I would consider Tre Johnson over Ace if it came to it. The length and shot making ability that Ace has...just too good to pass up.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Does anyone else feel like we're going in circles in this thread? It's the same topics day after day. The lottery, and the draft can't come soon enough.

[Dalek]

Even if Chomche/Maluach is close in Maluach’s favour, there’s no reason to take him top 10. That’s just a wasted pick.

I think Asa Newell is not that interesting because he is locked in as a PF and plays best at the rim which won't be as easy in the NBA. it isn't too exciting to draft an energy big that cannot cover fives or shoot from outside. There are literally dozens of G-League guys and guys in Europe that fit his profile. If he suddenly becomes a scary outside shooter, he might be something, because he looks like he can switch coverage on defense. Overall, he is very average to me.

To be fair, the same thing might be said for Noa Essengue, but the handle looks a bit better overall and the amount of fouls drawn is elite status for any player.

For Maluach, I don't see many if any draft experts not have him in the top 10. He is very mobile for his size and makes freethrows and has an outstanding standing reach. Why not take Maluach?

Chomche was nearly the last pick in a weak draft who just blew out his knee. He isn't anything to prevent you from drafting another big man who can potentially anchor your defense.

Why not take Maluach? You want to waste a top 10 pick on bargain bin Lively? Or Gobert minus the DPOY’s? Please.

In the 6-10 range I'd be happy with Maluach. Maybe a bit rich for top five status, but then I am not sold on anyone being a high level starter outside of Flagg, Harper, Edgecombe, Tre. Bailey I am on the fence on.

Let's say his worst case scenario is he is a 10 year+ starting level center but maybe no all-star or all-NBA selections. At worst his defense doesn't translate that well into being an elite rim protector, but he can board and and finish at the rim well and make freethrows. That's Jonas Valancuinas to me, and while that isn't a home run, it still is solid for a top 10 pick. He's a guy you can have in the playoffs and can throw at the other bigs in the league.

I think his floor his good enough to be our primary back-up and his ceiling is TBD. In a good development system you think he has a shot of being special. How many 7ft. guys fail with a 9.9 BPM at age 18?

[Dalek]

Does anyone else feel like we're going in circles in this thread? It's the same topics day after day. The lottery, and the draft can't come soon enough.

In some ways its better when we have a non-lotto pick because the scope becomes wider for people, but when you have a top 8 pick people get sold on a handful of guys. It's just the nature of sucking. At least you pick from the best.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[UnbelievablyRAW]

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You know Masai loves his high upside swings

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[NinjaBro]

Does anyone else feel like we're going in circles in this thread? It's the same topics day after day. The lottery, and the draft can't come soon enough.

It's been like this for 20 years

[Son Goku 25]

Does anyone else feel like we're going in circles in this thread? It's the same topics day after day. The lottery, and the draft can't come soon enough.

These are personal affirmations at this point lol

[BoyzNTheHood]

Does anyone else feel like we're going in circles in this thread? It's the same topics day after day. The lottery, and the draft can't come soon enough.

It's been like this for 20 years