MrGoat wrote:puja21 wrote:MrGoat wrote:team record is coming too strongly into play here.
MrGoat wrote:Beasley has had an outrageous season that is a big part of why the Pistons went from bottom of the league into beyond play in team.
Isn't this the same logic?
You just personally value Beasley's contributions more than PP
No, it isn't. Pritchard didn't elevate his team, he was already on a great team and is cashing in on having good teammates who make his job easier. Beasley is scoring more points and hitting a better percentage from deep on higher volume, his impact is just bigger
Correction: Beasley scored LESS points in the 6th man role. Beasley started 22% of his games -- none of those numbers are counted in his 6th man criteria. This is why Pritchard set the record for 3s made off the bench and not Beasley (bc 79 of Beasley's 3s came as a starter they don't count).
Beasley had a lower PER (14.4 to PP's 17.6)
Beasley had a WAY worse offensive rating (116 to a historic 130 for PP)
Beasley shot worse TS% (.590 to .633)
Beasley had a far worse AST-TOV ratio (1.7 vs almost 4 for PP) while doing less as a stand-and-shoot guy vs. Pritchard running as a point guard.
I would listen to a case for Ty Jerome (another PG doing more than Beasley was asked to do).
Also agree could be argued Detroit's *need* for Beasley was more important than what PP was bringing -- they needed a stand around and hit open shots guy with Cade/Ivey etc... more than they needed PP
But you can't (rationally) argue Beasley was *doing* more. He was less versatile and he was worse at the things they were both doing
e.g.
Beasley took more 2PA and hit a much worse percentage at .466 vs .642 (was worse both at assisted and unassisted 2PAs)
RE: "cashing in on good teammates who make his job easier" -- it *feels* right because of Tatum and Brown (starters though)... In reality though, easy shots living off teammates was Beasley's situation and the data proves it out.
Assisted by teammates:2PM = Pritchard only .247 vs Beasley .634
3PM = Pritchard .804 vs Beasley .937
Attempt rate of open corner 3sPritchard only hit 15.7% of his 3s from the corner off a swing swing... versus was Beasley 20.9%
Pritchard was also more efficient at
every single shot type *except* the "left" (not even the right) corner 3:
Shooting SplitsRestricted area, Pritchard 73.5% to 57.4%
Paint Non-RA, PP 56% to 36%
Mid-Range, PP 48.9% to 41%
Left Corner 3, PP 39.5% to 52.2% <-- Beasley's only win
Right Corner 3, PP 49.2% to 47.5%
Above the Break 3, PP 40.9% to 39.8%
Biggest of all Beasley was only a 6th man in <80% of games
It was Pritchard's to lose but really Jerome the only valid #2 despite the media vote.