3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Tim_Hardawayy wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
That’s a small 4 game sample size though, this team is the 10th seed and 37-45. I was assuming you all were saying Herro was close to Mitchell’s level because of the basic stats being similar, Lavine is right there too and more efficient than both. I don’t think either are near Mitchell
Its not a 4 game sample size unless you're blaming Tyler for the record, which I think is unfair considering the overall state of the roster this year. You had guys in and out of the lineup along with the Jimmy situation.
It's also about how guys play to get their numbers, Lavine's offense is smooth but he doesn't lift his teammates up and on defense with him its not like he can't compete, he's just a sieve that doesn't even put in effort. Look at each guy's VORP, Tyler is much closer to Mitchell than he is to LaVine and if I'm being honest it feels like you're just trying to bury him a bit to make a point about how valuable Bam is. Which is dumb, because I think both guys are really valuable for different reasons and Heat fans shouldn't be pitting them against each other.
I’m not even mentioning Bam and I think Tyler has had a really good season, his best by far. I’m just saying we can’t prop Herro up to a Mitchell level when 1 is doing it on an elite team compared to a mediocre team. If we were on the outside looking in when normally say “I don’t want so and so he’s putting up empty stats on a bad team”.
Thats why I’m saying hopefully we can get some legit help in here this summer and see how these guys show up on (hopefully) a winning team playing at a high level every night
I feel like that's a take you'd see from people who don't watch a guy play. Heat fans know what empty offensive stats look like, we watched 2020-2023 Tyler Herro. And he got plenty criticized those years even while averaging 20 a night.
I don't even see anyone saying he is as good as Mitchell, just that he's competing with him and not letting it be one-sided. Which is true. And again, advanced statistics will tell you if a guy is putting up empty numbers or helping his team win. They tell you LaVine is empty, and at least this season they tell you Tyler was definitely helping his team win. The LaVine comparison just feels like something you'd read on the general board, and I'm imagining Heat fans having a similarly lazy take on Bam and what your reaction would be (well we don't have to imagine, but you get what I'm saying).
