GT: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (GAME 3: Thu, 7PM)

[Gravy]

How many minutes is the Knicks offense 1v1 ?

It helps when they got two really great ball handlers. We used to have another guy that could help create shots. Forgot his name though...

We lack great ball handlers yet somehow from the beginning of last 4th quarter we had everyone from Brunson to Deuce to OG to Mikal going 1v1 in our "offense"

If we stick to current players. Brunson leads the team with 7.3 assists. In second place is Josh Hart at 5.9 then Mikal at 3.7 . These are our assists leaders but fans want our offense to look like the Warriors

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Sacrificed himself. Blowout win

Is there anywhere this dude won't get banned from?

[Appleshampoo]

Watching Spo and the Heat get annihilated for the 2nd straight time makes me wonder if there is a small part of Spo that might want out. That Heat team ain't going anywhere anytime soon unless some big trades happen and the way Riley treated Butler this season, many big names may look the other way. Anyway... something to keep an eye on.

Also the rumor that one of his younger players is rolling around his old bed with his ex-wife

Jaquez, who's been benched for the play ins and playoffs so far.

She denied it though

Jaquez took out Randle and Spoelstra's ex wife's back. Dirty player

[Adelheid]

Watching the Cavs game and man Johnnie never sits. He's always in the ear of Atkinson running up and down the sidelines with him. We really lost an asset.

there is nothing a big fat head coaching contract cant cure

[NoDopeOnSundays]

The last 3 minutes of this Cavs game has been Atkinson giving Donovan Mitchell the ball to go 1v1 every play or Herro on the other side. Where are all these elaborate plays every coach but Thibs is running.

How many minutes is the Knicks offense 1v1 ?

It helps when they got two really great ball handlers. We used to have another guy that could help create shots. Forgot his name though...

They had those two really great ball handlers last season and their offense was ranked 18th in the NBA

Guess what happened this year? Their touches went down and other people got to handle the ball.

[JayTWill]

It helps when they got two really great ball handlers. We used to have another guy that could help create shots. Forgot his name though...

We lack great ball handlers yet somehow from the beginning of last 4th quarter we had everyone from Brunson to Deuce to OG to Mikal going 1v1 in our "offense"

If we stick to current players. Brunson leads the team with 7.3 assists. In second place is Josh Hart at 5.9 then Mikal at 3.7 . These are our assists leaders but fans want our offense to look like the Warriors

And in the Warriors last championship season Green averaged 7 assists, Curry averaged 6.3 and Poole averaged 4. What does that have to do with anything? I don't know.

I don't think we have the personnel to run the Warriors offense but that doesn't mean we should be running the stagnant offense that we do. There is a world of difference between Kerr's offense and Thibs. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

[Clyde_Style]

My wish for this game is for KAT getting more than a dozen good post-ups.

Lately he has been hard to stop if he starts his moves near the basket and not from the top of the key.

TBH, I don't know how we start games without feeding KAT down low early. I sure hope they wake up and start doing it from the opening tip.

[Appleshampoo]

I at least want to see Towns set more top of the key picks. Josh Hart can cut, or dribble into mid-range, shoot or pass. I trust Hart as the open man to make a play happen. Less so early in the shot clock setting up the early ball movement. The good things about Hart can happen where Towns parked at the end of the game 2. Let Towns work out the early double team and move without the ball.

[Besart19]

not suggesting Detroit wouldn’t adjust, but the 2 penetrators (brunson, cam) and big frontcourt lineup seemed to give them trouble.

our best lineup against them is

Mitch / Achiuwa / Towns
Towns / Achiuwa / Hart
Anunoby / Hart / Mikal
Mikal / McBride / Payne
Brunson / Payne / Wright

i pretty much agree with this, lineup man

shamet and precious in the situational slot.

That starting five is the best in the league if you run horn sets... Thibs as regressed a lot... horns were his staple in Chicago along with classic triangle sets... we havent seen neither of them... He runs Caliparis dribble drive (probably to fit Randle) but we now see the real collapse bc of his frenetic coaching

[Gravy]

How many minutes is the Knicks offense 1v1 ?

It helps when they got two really great ball handlers. We used to have another guy that could help create shots. Forgot his name though...

They had those two really great ball handlers last season and their offense was ranked 18th in the NBA

Guess what happened this year? Their touches went down and other people got to handle the ball.

They had multiple injuries all season long last year, this season they have been healthy. Hopefully KAT gets the ball and scores more next game

[NoDopeOnSundays]

It helps when they got two really great ball handlers. We used to have another guy that could help create shots. Forgot his name though...

They had those two really great ball handlers last season and their offense was ranked 18th in the NBA

Guess what happened this year? Their touches went down and other people got to handle the ball.

They had multiple injuries all season long last year, this season they have been healthy. Hopefully KAT gets the ball and scores more next game

They had a 116 ORTG with Mitchell and Garland on the court last year, they have a 125 ORTG this year with them on the court. So, the injury excuses wont work, because when they played they weren't this efficient and they dominated the ball together. 116 to 125 is about the gap between the Cavs and Blazers on offense

They have the 2nd highest ORTG in NBA history this season, from 18th last year to 2nd most potent offense ever. You walked yourself into that one.

[LFGK]

Damnit, it's beneath me to use this turn of phrase but... it really does smell like bitch in here.

This one's gonna be tight the whole way. Just gotta win one in Detroit and we've been a good road team all season.

If one had no idea of the series you would think we were down 3-0 being around these boards. Only 3 teams had more road wins then us all year, up 3-1 coming back home

[Gravy]

They had those two really great ball handlers last season and their offense was ranked 18th in the NBA

Guess what happened this year? Their touches went down and other people got to handle the ball.

They had multiple injuries all season long last year, this season they have been healthy. Hopefully KAT gets the ball and scores more next game

They had a 116 ORTG with Mitchell and Garland on the court last year, they have a 125 ORTG this year with them on the court. So, the injury excuses wont work, because when they played they weren't this efficient and they dominated the ball together. 116 to 125 is about the gap between the Cavs and Blazers on offense

They have the 2nd highest ORTG in NBA history this season, from 18th last year to 2nd most potent offense ever. You walked yourself into that one.

But we're not getting Atkinson or Garland and Mitchell. We have Brunson Hart and Mikal. Garland is shooting 40% from three with 6.7 assists, Mikal is 35% with 3.7 assists(highest of his career). Different players man

[shmeakone]

I wouldn't be suprised if we win the next 3.

I wouldn't be surprised if we lose the next 3.

I wouldn't be surprised if this goes to 6 or 7.

I just don't know what to expect at this point, urgency needs to be there.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

They had multiple injuries all season long last year, this season they have been healthy. Hopefully KAT gets the ball and scores more next game

They had a 116 ORTG with Mitchell and Garland on the court last year, they have a 125 ORTG this year with them on the court. So, the injury excuses wont work, because when they played they weren't this efficient and they dominated the ball together. 116 to 125 is about the gap between the Cavs and Blazers on offense

They have the 2nd highest ORTG in NBA history this season, from 18th last year to 2nd most potent offense ever. You walked yourself into that one.

But we're not getting Atkinson or Garland and Mitchell. We have Brunson Hart and Mikal. Garland is shooting 40% from three with 6.7 assists, Mikal is 35% with 3.7 assists(highest of his career). Different players man

Who said anything about getting Atkinson, Garland or Mitchell?





You have a team starring you in the face that changed how they played for the better with a new coach. Those same "great ballhandlers" you are talking about powered a miserable offense last year. I could say what the changes were, but you don't seem to care about anything other than making excuses and tired defense.

[Gravy]

They had a 116 ORTG with Mitchell and Garland on the court last year, they have a 125 ORTG this year with them on the court. So, the injury excuses wont work, because when they played they weren't this efficient and they dominated the ball together. 116 to 125 is about the gap between the Cavs and Blazers on offense

They have the 2nd highest ORTG in NBA history this season, from 18th last year to 2nd most potent offense ever. You walked yourself into that one.

But we're not getting Atkinson or Garland and Mitchell. We have Brunson Hart and Mikal. Garland is shooting 40% from three with 6.7 assists, Mikal is 35% with 3.7 assists(highest of his career). Different players man

Who said anything about getting Atkinson, Garland or Mitchell?





You have a team starring you in the face that changed how they played for the better with a new coach. Those same "great ballhandlers" you are talking about powered a miserable offense last year. I could say what the changes were, but you don't seem to care about anything other than making excuses and tired defense.

Its not just a new coach, its a new really good coach. Thibs had us at a top 5 offense this season with no bench and Hart and Mikal's janky shots, who are we getting that's much better than him?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

But we're not getting Atkinson or Garland and Mitchell. We have Brunson Hart and Mikal. Garland is shooting 40% from three with 6.7 assists, Mikal is 35% with 3.7 assists(highest of his career). Different players man

Who said anything about getting Atkinson, Garland or Mitchell?





You have a team starring you in the face that changed how they played for the better with a new coach. Those same "great ballhandlers" you are talking about powered a miserable offense last year. I could say what the changes were, but you don't seem to care about anything other than making excuses and tired defense.

Its not just a new coach, its a new really good coach. Thibs had us at a top 5 offense this season with no bench and Hart and Mikal's janky shots, who are we getting that's much better than him?

The Knicks were 16th from January till now, mainly because teams started defending Hart with a center, and he has no idea what to do. You're literally seeing that play out in the playoffs right now, and you still come up with excuses


If we were the Cavs, you would have been saying we can't let go of Bickerstaff because he won, was better than John Beilein and turned it around.

[Gravy]

Who said anything about getting Atkinson, Garland or Mitchell?





You have a team starring you in the face that changed how they played for the better with a new coach. Those same "great ballhandlers" you are talking about powered a miserable offense last year. I could say what the changes were, but you don't seem to care about anything other than making excuses and tired defense.

Its not just a new coach, its a new really good coach. Thibs had us at a top 5 offense this season with no bench and Hart and Mikal's janky shots, who are we getting that's much better than him?

The Knicks were 16th from January till now, mainly because teams started defending Hart with a center, and he has no idea what to do. You're literally seeing that play out in the playoffs right now, and you still come up with excuses


If we were the Cavs, you would have been saying we can't let go of Bickerstaff because he won, was better than John Beilein and turned it around.

So Thibs is not doing anything right at all and nothing is the player's fault. Who is the coach you want that will fix everything and turn us into the Cavs?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Its not just a new coach, its a new really good coach. Thibs had us at a top 5 offense this season with no bench and Hart and Mikal's janky shots, who are we getting that's much better than him?

The Knicks were 16th from January till now, mainly because teams started defending Hart with a center, and he has no idea what to do. You're literally seeing that play out in the playoffs right now, and you still come up with excuses


If we were the Cavs, you would have been saying we can't let go of Bickerstaff because he won, was better than John Beilein and turned it around.

So JB Bickerstaff is not doing anything right at all and nothing is the player's fault. Who is the coach you want that will fix everything and turn us into the Celtics?

Fixed.

Cavs equivalent of Gravy in 2023-2024. Everything you say can be applied to JB Bickerstaff with the Cavs, everything. Again, YOU mentioned the Cavs, I told you a fact about how they went from 18th to 2nd with those same great ballhandlers.

[Gravy]

The Knicks were 16th from January till now, mainly because teams started defending Hart with a center, and he has no idea what to do. You're literally seeing that play out in the playoffs right now, and you still come up with excuses


If we were the Cavs, you would have been saying we can't let go of Bickerstaff because he won, was better than John Beilein and turned it around.

So JB Bickerstaff is not doing anything right at all and nothing is the player's fault. Who is the coach you want that will fix everything and turn us into the Celtics?

Fixed.

Cavs equivalent of Gravy in 2023-2024. Everything you say can be applied to JB Bickerstaff with the Cavs, everything. Again, YOU mentioned the Cavs, I told you a fact about how they went from 18th to 2nd with those same great ballhandlers.

Buddy, I'm giving you a chance to pick your new coach to take us to a championship! If you ask me who I'd want over Mikal and KAT I'll give you a long list of players. Where them coaches at?