Is Trae Young on the way out?
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Hope they add instead of trading the best player
Need a vet big and a couple lateral moves possibly (Mann, Niang, FA)
Draft well and try for 50 wins next season
If they can extend Trae on a reasonable deal, he would be just as tradable if not more.
Need a vet big and a couple lateral moves possibly (Mann, Niang, FA)
Draft well and try for 50 wins next season
If they can extend Trae on a reasonable deal, he would be just as tradable if not more.
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The case to keep Trae...for now.
FansidedBrad Rowland wrote:Why trading Trae Young still isn't the right move for the Hawks
For a long while, the summer of 2025 has been a natural point of evaluation for the Atlanta Hawks and Trae Young. The lead reason is that Young has only one guaranteed year (plus a player option) left on his contract, and he is eligible for a lucrative contract extension in Atlanta.
The nuts and boltsIs Trae Young a "max player?"Spoiler:Can the Hawks win big with Trae Young?Spoiler:The young core makes a lot more sense with Trae Young in itSpoiler:So ... what do the Hawks do?Spoiler:Spoiler:
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The case to move on from Trae.
The AthleticJohn Hollinger wrote:This takes us to the most important decision facing the new boss in Atlanta: Young. He has one year left on his deal and then can become a free agent, with a player option for $49 million in 2026-27. He’s a valuable player and led the league in assists. Atlanta’s offense still turns to dust when he’s off the floor (a meager 105.2 offensive rating in the non-Young minutes).
But he’s not a top-15 player in the league, so is he good enough to be the centerpiece of a contending team? Or is he just the kind of player who offers a floor of 36 wins and a ceiling of 42? Young also seemed to lose a step this season, which resulted in him struggling to beat defenders in isolation. Perhaps that can be blamed on Achilles issues that plagued him all season. However, he’s a 6-foot-1, speed-dependent guard whom they’d be paying into his late 20s on an extension, and the league legislated away some of his best tricks.
Is that worth going out multiple years on a max extension? Or is it time to cut bait, recoup some value and build around the other young guys in Atlanta, even if the Hawks don’t control their picks?
Chatter has picked up that the Hawks might choose the latter course. However, it takes two to tango in any trade. The confounding issue in any Young scenario is that the market for him doesn’t seem to be all that hot. Indeed, that perhaps explains why it was Murray and not Young who was sent to the Pelicans in the 2024 offseason.
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I thought Trae could be the next AI, but just another CP3 or Lillard. Good but not good enough to be a #1, like CP3, he needs an elite forward teammate to make a run.
Trae is still a good play but still not worth trading him unless Sabonis is on the table.
Trae is still a good play but still not worth trading him unless Sabonis is on the table.
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Since Trae Young has never played with an All-Star. Which one of these former All-Stars interest you?
Russell Westbrook 9x (Player Option)
Pau George 9x
Al Horford 5x (Free Agent)
Bradley Beal 3x
Julius Randle 3x (Player Option)
Ben Simmons 3x (Free Agent)
Jrue Holiday 2x
Kristaps Porzingis 1x
Brook Lopez 1x (Free Agent)
Lauri Markkanen 1x
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Russell Westbrook 9x (Player Option)
Pau George 9x
Al Horford 5x (Free Agent)
Bradley Beal 3x
Julius Randle 3x (Player Option)
Ben Simmons 3x (Free Agent)
Jrue Holiday 2x
Kristaps Porzingis 1x
Brook Lopez 1x (Free Agent)
Lauri Markkanen 1x
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HMFFL wrote:Since Trae Young has never played with an All-Star. Which one of these former All-Stars interest you?Spoiler:
In order:
- Lauri Markkanen - fits the roster, team needs and timeline
- Jrue Holiday -consummate leader, fits team need for a third reliable guard
- Brook Lopez - fits a need for experienced, backup, floor-spacing Center
- Brad Beal - the second scorer on the perimeter we've long needed, Suns would likely give him away (is he willing to come off the bench in Atlanta?)
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Jamaaliver wrote:HMFFL wrote:Since Trae Young has never played with an All-Star. Which one of these former All-Stars interest you?Spoiler:
In order:
- Lauri Markkanen - fits the roster, team needs and timeline
- Jrue Holiday -consummate leader, fits team need for a third reliable guard
- Brook Lopez - fits a need for experienced, backup, floor-spacing Center
- Brad Beal - the second scorer on the perimeter we've long needed, Suns would likely give him away (is he willing to come off the bench in Atlanta?)
Regarding the 'Allstar' - it's not about a player who's been an allstar, we had one in Murray. For me it's about a player that's on the Hawks making it as an allstar while playing with Trae. So only Lauri fits that criteria as a player having a chance to be an allstar alongside Trae in the same season.
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^I do think Beal would functionally work here, too -- as the off ball scorer we've needed in the back court for years.
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Beal on a team friendly salary becomes more appealing to most teams. Are you wanting Beal to come off our bench?Jamaaliver wrote:^I do think Beal would functionally work here, too -- as the off ball scorer we've needed in the back court for years.
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Trae doesn't need an all star, he needs a first team all nba guy like prime Blake Griffin or LMA. Like what CP3 had.
Zac will become a Rip Hamilton level type of player, but looking at his rookie numbers, their is also a possibility he could become another Jayson Tatum level type of player.
Zac will become a Rip Hamilton level type of player, but looking at his rookie numbers, their is also a possibility he could become another Jayson Tatum level type of player.
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atlantabbq99 wrote:Trae doesn't need an all star, he needs a first team all nba guy like prime Blake Griffin or LMA. Like what CP3 had.
Zac will become a Rip Hamilton level type of player, but looking at his rookie numbers, their is also a possibility he could become another Jayson Tatum level type of player.
I have Zacch as a Jayson Tatum level talent.
I do agree with you about Trae needing a firdt team all NBA player in their prime.
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HMFFL wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:^I do think Beal would functionally work here, too -- as the off ball scorer we've needed in the back court for years.
Beal on a team friendly salary becomes more appealing to most teams. Are you wanting Beal to come off our bench?
If Beal is willing to come off the bench, he solves a lot of our offensive/playmaking/end of game issues.
If he insists on starting,
Trae
Beal
Dyson
Jalen
Okongwu
is an interesting but flawed starting 5.
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Jamaaliver wrote:HMFFL wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:^I do think Beal would functionally work here, too -- as the off ball scorer we've needed in the back court for years.
Beal on a team friendly salary becomes more appealing to most teams. Are you wanting Beal to come off our bench?
If Beal is willing to come off the bench, he solves a lot of our offensive/playmaking/end of game issues.
If he insists on starting,
Trae
Beal
Dyson
Jalen
Okongwu
is an interesting but flawed starting 5.
Another injury prone player but also now our highest paid player at $53 and $57 million???
I don't get it.
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Jamaaliver wrote:^I do think Beal would functionally work here, too -- as the off ball scorer we've needed in the back court for years.
I still don't get the Hawks interest in this deal? Can you explain it?
I'm guessing it would have been some combination of CC, Hunter, Bogi to make the salaries work. But I still don't understand the Hawks interest when Beal has 2 years left.
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After giving it some thought Beal is a no for me. He doesn't make sense as a starter and I don't see any positives. Primarily because I doubt Beal will agree to a limited role.Jamaaliver wrote:HMFFL wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:^I do think Beal would functionally work here, too -- as the off ball scorer we've needed in the back court for years.
Beal on a team friendly salary becomes more appealing to most teams. Are you wanting Beal to come off our bench?
If Beal is willing to come off the bench, he solves a lot of our offensive/playmaking/end of game issues.
If he insists on starting,
Trae
Beal
Dyson
Jalen
Okongwu
is an interesting but flawed starting 5.
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jayu70 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:^I do think Beal would functionally work here, too -- as the off ball scorer we've needed in the back court for years.Spoiler:
I still don't get the Hawks interest in this deal? Can you explain it?
Another injury prone player but also now our highest paid player at $53 and $57 million??? I don't get it.
I'm guessing it would have been some combination of CC, Hunter, Bogi to make the salaries work. But I still don't understand the Hawks interest when Beal has 2 years left.
It was a calculated gamble. Buying low on an All Star caliber player with something to prove.
And possibly getting a young prospect thrown in for our trouble.
And it's really only for a season. 12 months from now he's just a fat expiring contract...
NOTE: Had Beal been on our team this spring instead of Mann, Niang and Levert - I believe we win 42+ games, win the division and easily win the Play-In.
He wouldn't make us a contender. But he'd be a difference maker for a young team in desperate need of some scoring punch.
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Jamaaliver wrote:jayu70 wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:^I do think Beal would functionally work here, too -- as the off ball scorer we've needed in the back court for years.Spoiler:
I still don't get the Hawks interest in this deal? Can you explain it?
Another injury prone player but also now our highest paid player at $53 and $57 million??? I don't get it.
I'm guessing it would have been some combination of CC, Hunter, Bogi to make the salaries work. But I still don't understand the Hawks interest when Beal has 2 years left.
It was a calculated gamble. Buying low on an All Star caliber player with something to prove.
And possibly getting a young prospect thrown in for our trouble.
And it's really only for a season. 12 months from now he's just a fat expiring contract...
NOTE: Had Beal been on our team this spring instead of Mann, Niang and Levert - I believe we win 42+ games, win the division and easily win the Play-In.
He wouldn't make us a contender. But he'd be a difference maker for a young team in desperate need of some scoring punch.
I disagree strongly.
Beal played in only 16 games AFTER the trade deadline.
26, 28, 30 were the games played by Levert, Niang and Mann. That's a lot of games missed to make up for the 3 for 1 player.
This also means more time for Garrison, probably Roddy who would still be here, it would make us an even smaller team with only MoG at PF.
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jayu70 wrote:I disagree strongly.
Beal played in only 16 games AFTER the trade deadline.
26, 28, 30 were the games played by Levert, Niang and Mann. That's a lot of games missed to make up for the 3 for 1 player.
This also means more time for Garrison, probably Roddy who would still be here, it would make us an even smaller team with only MoG at PF.

You asked the question, bro.
Hawks kicked the tires on a beat up All Star SG.
Not the craziest idea for a team lacking in scoring, shooting, playmaking.
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Jamaaliver wrote:jayu70 wrote:I disagree strongly.
Beal played in only 16 games AFTER the trade deadline.
26, 28, 30 were the games played by Levert, Niang and Mann. That's a lot of games missed to make up for the 3 for 1 player.
This also means more time for Garrison, probably Roddy who would still be here, it would make us an even smaller team with only MoG at PF.
You asked the question, bro.
Hawks kicked the tires on a beat up All Star SG.
Not the craziest idea for a team lacking in scoring, shooting, playmaking.

I think it more than likely went something like this:
Hawks called about Durant, Suns said what about Beal? Hawks say....mmmm what assets you giving us to take his albatross, Suns say 5 seconds, Hawks say no and ask for Dunn, Oso and 2 1sts. Suns say no. Hawks say cool and bye.
It's then reported Hawks interested in Beal. This is more likely than the Hawks calling to inquire about Beal.