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Re: 2024-2025 NBA Playoffs Round 1, Game 2: (7) Orlando Magic at (2) Boston Celtics - 7pm ET 

Post#841 » by basketballRob » Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:51 pm

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Skin wrote:WHO CARES? HE CAN'T HIT THREES!

You guys have really lost sight following Weltman so long. WE NEED PLAYERS WHO HIT 3s!!! Weltman doesn't care about players who hit 3s. He's so old fashion that he thinks defense prioritizes everything and it doesn't. Stupid thing is he didn't even build a strong defensive team. You can't have a strong defensive team without a strong defensive Center. Basketball 101. Talk about failing. :nonono:
He shot 40% from 3 in the second half of the season.

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LOW VOLUME, OPPORTUNISTIC, WIDE OPEN SHOTS. Stop being fooled. He demands zero attention on defense in the playoffs and still has little effect. Bro is straight trash. We need to trade him to the first GM who thinks he's a 40% 3pt gold mine!
He's really good for his age.

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Post#842 » by Skin » Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:52 pm

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Not me. This is like my 3rd day posting all year.
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Post#843 » by Skin » Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:54 pm

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basketballRob wrote:He shot 40% from 3 in the second half of the season.

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LOW VOLUME, OPPORTUNISTIC, WIDE OPEN SHOTS. Stop being fooled. He demands zero attention on defense in the playoffs and still has little effect. Bro is straight trash. We need to trade him to the first GM who thinks he's a 40% 3pt gold mine!
He's really good for his age.

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Listen. He's as good as he is ever going to be. Stop thinking that he's full of untapped potential.
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Post#844 » by basketballRob » Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:56 pm

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basketballRob wrote:
Skin wrote:LOW VOLUME, OPPORTUNISTIC, WIDE OPEN SHOTS. Stop being fooled. He demands zero attention on defense in the playoffs and still has little effect. Bro is straight trash. We need to trade him to the first GM who thinks he's a 40% 3pt gold mine!
He's really good for his age.

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Listen. He's as good as he is ever going to be. Stop thinking that he's full of untapped potential.
That’s not true, and he got better as this season went on.

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Post#845 » by VFX » Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:57 pm

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Ok man.


Eyriq is homeristic a lot but this game a better shooting team simply hit more threes and FTs.

Go 10-29 and 17-24 instead of 7-29 and 15-24 and it's 11 more points. For the amount of wide open threes we missed and FREE throws.. that isn't a tall ask.

The lack of shotmaking is simply something that has been our Achilles' heel all year and isn't fixable until we get shot makers/a consistent guard.


I don't disagree with your assessment.

I also just don't think that there isn't a correlation between how the offense is being run and the severe drop-off in shooting numbers.
It isn't as simple as "dudes aren't hitting shots". There are reasons behind why thats the case.

KCP didnt step foot in Orlando and the humidity started changing his shot. The system doesn't lend itself to emulating what he was doing in Denver.

But yes, having a playmaking/shotmaking guard will help with a lot of this as we know.
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Post#846 » by zaymon » Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:03 pm

I am quite pleased with how we played those 2 games. Our weaknesses are easy to point out.
Most dissapointing is defense. We really lack a rim protector with Paolo and Franz out there. Sometimes it looks like our old Vucevic rim protection.
Paolo is playing much better than in regular season still he shouldnt run offense. Our offense will be hard to fix without a trade involving one of our big three. At least Paolo and Franz improve their value every game.
My money is on Banchero going number 1 !
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Post#847 » by Skin » Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:04 pm

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basketballRob wrote:He's really good for his age.

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Listen. He's as good as he is ever going to be. Stop thinking that he's full of untapped potential.
That’s not true, and he got better as this season went on.

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No he didn't. Spotty as he ever was. 2 good games.... followed by 5 bad ones.... then 3 good ones.... then 4 bad ones... rinse and repeat. We need consistency. Derrick White get paid less than KCP, Payton Pritchard $6M AAV. So solid and consistent at a great price. Meanwhile we have Black, Cole and some dude that shouldn't even be in the league.
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Post#848 » by Bergmaniac » Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:16 pm

It's just hilarious to me every loss is mostly due to the specific poster's personal main complaints about the team no matter what actually happens on the court.

No, we didn't lose this game because we didn't play Goga or because our playmaking was bad. We missed a lot of open shots and FTs and also just didn't defend well enough, especially considering Tatum was out. 122.5 DRTG against a team missing its superspar is just bad, especially for a team which is supposed to be dominant defensively.
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Post#849 » by basketballRob » Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:19 pm

I know it's not popular right now, but I wouldn't mind running it back. Just add the 2 rookies and dump Cole. I think they'll win over 50 and get home court.

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Post#850 » by JoshuaPotter » Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:21 pm

basketballRob wrote:I know it's not popular right now, but I wouldn't mind running it back. Just add the 2 rookies and dump Cole.

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Honestly would only be comfortable if we did that with a new coach that implements a new system that plays to our strengths. The sad part is how OK I am with ugly basketball. If we could just get our team into better positions to take advantage of the ruleset it would be more then ideal.
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Post#851 » by eyriq » Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:42 pm

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dsg2021 wrote:Look at me, look at me. My way of thinking is winning in an online forum thanks to posting more than anyone else every day. You know who you are out there.

Not me. This is like my 3rd day posting all year.
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Post#852 » by eyriq » Thu Apr 24, 2025 6:56 pm

basketballRob wrote:I know it's not popular right now, but I wouldn't mind running it back. Just add the 2 rookies and dump Cole. I think they'll win over 50 and get home court.

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Personally I think the minimum moves required are a swap of spot-up shooting for either a primary playmaker or a three point specialist at the guard spot and a third forward that is a three point specialist.

KCP for a Poole or Klay for example, JI for... a forward that can shoot like a Cam Johnson, though he's an expensive option to have off the bench.
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Post#853 » by drsd » Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:05 pm

Knightro wrote:Boston had a 45% three point rate in Game 1 and a 46% three point rate in Game 2.


Boston took 53.6% of its shot attempts from three this season. Thus the 45.7% the Magic is "holding" the Celts to is the game plan.

Frankly I am more disgusted at all the FTs the Magic has allowed the Celts to take; that's a better example of bad-defense, in my opinion.
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Post#854 » by pepe1991 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:17 pm

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1. Do you understand what Boxscore +/- means? Team was closest to winning with Goga in the game. No thanks for me to cherry picking one play. Because I could point to zero BOS offensive boards and Goga’s block and cleanup dunk. And by the way, if KP enters Concussion Protocol from it, then make sure you send Goga your fruit basket for the 6 game series.

2. Note I said “WAITING” as in you haven’t yet, but you are waiting on it so you can bring it all up again like you’ve done, oh, I don’t know, 20+ times in the regular season. That’s why a few months ago I was trying to get you to reach a conclusion and start asking for one of Paolo or Franz traded. Complaining without standing on constructive criticism is lame. Do better.


Plus minus over one games means jack shi*.
Houstan didn't do anything and had second highest on a team.


So you read mind now? Find somebody else to shuehorn into "trade Banchero/Franz" wagon because again, i was never on that train.


Love the nuance. Sure, you never said trade Banchero/Franz this year. You were just a top 2 poster of the year in trashing Paolo posts this year. Note I didn't say you wanted to trade him either, I say you are a major cause for Paolo/Franz division.

Plus minus over one game means nothing?
too? Get over it cupcake, that some people in here want to bite back at you sometimes. The only difference is most of us have real lives instead of living at the PC, Mr. cynical pepe.


oh boy

You were just a top 2 poster of the year in trashing Paolo posts this year.


Calling out player for playing bad? How could I dare to say anything without asking your permission to have different opinion?

Note I didn't say you wanted to trade him either, I say you are a major cause for Paolo/Franz division.


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That’s why a few months ago I was trying to get you to reach a conclusion and start asking for one of Paolo or Franz traded.


You thought you played some 4 D chess, in reality you played hide and seek and nobody went out to find you. Spoiler- because nobody cares.


Plus minus over one game means nothing?

I'm very confident that i posted this about 200 times here. Probably like 15 times a season.
Case and point, in 9 points win vs Heat, Garland had plus minus of -2, Merrill had +12. So, Garland now sucks, right? :roll:
Plus minus over one game is literally what happend on the floor while you were in a game. It is 5 on 5 sport, Hypothetically if your teammate goes supernova and hits 5 threes in a row, on some epic 20-0 run, it's not only him that will have +20 plus minus but other 4 guys who did next to nothing.


Then why are you in a thread about one game specifically, talking bad about Goga in one game specifically? Why did you gloss over Goga's massive Rebounding/Block rate over WCJ [/quote
Because it's called GAME THREAD.
Where did i "defend" Carter? Matter of fact where did I even "trashed" Goga? Said he was dancing salsa on perimeter ? He did. That's why Mosley isn't playing him more. I said same thing about Luka Doncic after game 1 on GB. Just because you like/dislike some player that doesn't make my opinon any more or less valid.


. KP literally has to go through Concussion Protocol testing now.

I'm cupcake. But this is your take on basketball game.


Get over it cupcake, that some people in here want to bite back at you sometimes. The only difference is most of us have real lives instead of living at the PC, Mr. cynical pepe

Again, i'm a cupcake. We established it.
But you can't handle different opinion about BASKETBALL and take it to personal levels.
Maybe, just maybeee:

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Post#856 » by Skin » Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:46 pm

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Paolo is the new Lebron-lite. Nobody else comes close. We are lucky for now, but Weltman will screw this up and Paolo will end up in LA one day. Brace yourselves.
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Post#857 » by Skin » Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:48 pm

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Not me. This is like my 3rd day posting all year.
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Post#858 » by Redwood » Thu Apr 24, 2025 7:55 pm

zaymon wrote:I am quite pleased with how we played those 2 games. Our weaknesses are easy to point out.
Most dissapointing is defense. We really lack a rim protector with Paolo and Franz out there. Sometimes it looks like our old Vucevic rim protection.
Paolo is playing much better than in regular season still he shouldnt run offense. Our offense will be hard to fix without a trade involving one of our big three. At least Paolo and Franz improve their value every game.


Our front office (or, hopefully, the new front office) needs to consider trading Suggs and filler if it brings in a legit point guard. PB and Franz are much better than he is, and they aren't injury prone like he is. It would be foolish to include him as a core piece when he rarely sees the court. Next season, if Suggs misses significant time yet again with injuries, his trade value is going to plummet. I believe it already isn't very high (or at least not as high as some around here believe) because he already has an extensive injury history and GM's no doubt look at him as a gamble. It's the obvious move that should be made if the return is right.
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Post#859 » by Skybox » Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:45 pm

basketballRob wrote:I know it's not popular right now, but I wouldn't mind running it back. Just add the 2 rookies and dump Cole. I think they'll win over 50 and get home court.

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I'd actually be fine with that if...

-we graft CoJo's head onto AB's body
-Meld Moe's offense onto WCJ's perimeter defense and Isaac's length
-Dig up Tex Winter's brain and plug it into one side of Mose's

then, run it back
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Post#860 » by Blue_and_Whte » Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:01 pm

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basketballRob wrote:I know it's not popular right now, but I wouldn't mind running it back. Just add the 2 rookies and dump Cole. I think they'll win over 50 and get home court.

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I'd actually be fine with that if...

-we graft CoJo's head onto AB's body
-Meld Moe's offense onto WCJ's perimeter defense and Isaac's length
-Dig up Tex Winter's brain and plug it into one side of Mose's

then, run it back

Adding two rookies and moving Cole who barely moves the needle either way is our path to 50 wins and another 1st round exit? Awesome…Can’t wait.
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