Jimmy Butler is an MVP level impact player

[BruttoNostra]

warriors without him look lost

Warriors with him can contend

Miami made finals with him

Wow, you trade for a 35yo often-injured players - what do you expect?
I'm wishing him a speedy recovery, don't get me wrong, but the last time he played 65+ games was in 2018-19, and it was exactly 65 games.
I mean, it sucks for Warriors and for Butler personally, but it's not like he's some young superstar you build around for years to come - part of the reasons he arrived almost for free was his age/health.

[SpreeS]

Warriors looked lost with him on the floor tonight as well.

What an MVP.

People overrate the Warriors a little too much around these parts. If you really think that team is a contender, I have a bridge to sell you.

You need trap Curry and its over. Who will score? Green? Podz? Hield? Moody? Looney? Payton? Ok Kuminga can on low efficiency, but he is benched by Kerr.

[Bloodbather]

He's a part-time superstar.

Frustrating player in the RS because you know he's coasting and it costs you seeding, making things more difficult than they need to be.

He's definitely a superstar in the PS, though. He's not done yet in that regard.

Despite his awful exit, he's my favorite Heat after Wade.

[LeBronSpaghetti]

And yet despite the large amount of evidence that spans years, some people will still call him overrated

Aren’t you the guy who every five minutes is posting about how the Nuggets 2023 ring isn’t real because they played Jimmy Bulter and the Heat in the finals?

[Optms]

And yet despite the large amount of evidence that spans years, some people will still call him overrated

Aren’t you the guy who every five minutes is posting about how the Nuggets 2023 ring isn’t real because they played Jimmy Bulter and the Heat in the finals?

He didn't have Herro for that series. Of course it was unfair. He took his team of role players to the Finals twice. That's 1 more than Jokic has done.

[Cubbies2120]

And yet despite the large amount of evidence that spans years, some people will still call him overrated

Aren’t you the guy who every five minutes is posting about how the Nuggets 2023 ring isn’t real because they played Jimmy Bulter and the Heat in the finals?

He didn't have Herro for that series. Of course it was unfair. He took his team of role players to the Finals twice. That's 1 more than Jokic has done.

Murray missing for two full playoffs (and a full season)
MPJ missing a season + PO's

2 Finals, 0 rings for Mr. Butler...

[TheGeneral99]

He led an average Heat team to the NBA finals twice in the last 5 years...of course he's an MVP impact player.

[LeBronSpaghetti]

And yet despite the large amount of evidence that spans years, some people will still call him overrated

Aren’t you the guy who every five minutes is posting about how the Nuggets 2023 ring isn’t real because they played Jimmy Bulter and the Heat in the finals?

He didn't have Herro for that series. Of course it was unfair. He took his team of role players to the Finals twice. That's 1 more than Jokic has done.

And yet, Butler still had a better supporting cast than Joker.

[Impuniti]

Luka is an MVP level player

Lakers without him miss playoffs

Lakers with him can win championship

Dallas made finals with him

Lol

Luka Stans are the worst, Kyrie, Lively and Gafford were very important pieces in the Mavs playoff run last season.

Luka will never be considered an legit MVP candidate unless he can evolve in a two way player, defensive beast

A guy that has 3 MVPs might get his 4th while being a revolving door in the position where defense is most important.

[Optms]

Aren’t you the guy who every five minutes is posting about how the Nuggets 2023 ring isn’t real because they played Jimmy Bulter and the Heat in the finals?

He didn't have Herro for that series. Of course it was unfair. He took his team of role players to the Finals twice. That's 1 more than Jokic has done.

And yet, Butler still had a better supporting cast than Joker.

Strus and Vincent, the Heat starting backcourt. Corpse of Kevin Love starting. Corpse of Kyle Lowry sixth man. So, tell us how much better the Heat were again? 2023 was a joke.

[flow]

True but only come playoffs time

i.e. Only when it matters.


"All he does is catch touchdowns." lol.

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[jbk1234]

He didn't have Herro for that series. Of course it was unfair. He took his team of role players to the Finals twice. That's 1 more than Jokic has done.

And yet, Butler still had a better supporting cast than Joker.

Strus and Vincent, the Heat starting backcourt. Corpse of Kevin Love starting. Corpse of Kyle Lowry sixth man. So, tell us how much better the Heat were again? 2023 was a joke.

The Heat are currently in the playoffs without Butler. Denver is a bottom five team without Joker. Also, the Warriors traded Wiggins for Butler and know they don't really have a wing defender with Butler injured.

[TheGOATRises007]

And yet, Butler still had a better supporting cast than Joker.

Strus and Vincent, the Heat starting backcourt. Corpse of Kevin Love starting. Corpse of Kyle Lowry sixth man. So, tell us how much better the Heat were again? 2023 was a joke.

The Heat are currently in the playoffs without Butler. Denver is a bottom five team without Joker. Also, the Warriors traded Wiggins for Butler and know they don't really have a wing defender with Butler injured.

Because they're in the East

[TheGOATRises007]

Aren’t you the guy who every five minutes is posting about how the Nuggets 2023 ring isn’t real because they played Jimmy Bulter and the Heat in the finals?

He didn't have Herro for that series. Of course it was unfair. He took his team of role players to the Finals twice. That's 1 more than Jokic has done.

And yet, Butler still had a better supporting cast than Joker.

This is laughable, because the Nuggets in 2023 had a good supporting cast. Especially with how well Murray played during the playoffs.

The Nuggets' roster has gotten worse since then, but there's no way the Heat's cast around Butler was better in 2023.

[GregOden]

The Warriors had only won 13 of their last 39 games before Butler came and they finished 23-7 (63 win pace) in the games he did play. That's a crazy turnaround. Without Butler they are basically a lottery team.

[Doctor MJ]

warriors without him look lost

Warriors with him can contend

Miami made finals with him

So I'm a pro-Jimmy guy and I think he turned around the Warrior season, but let's keep in mind:

The Warriors were outscored by 7 with Jimmy out there yesterday, despite him only playing 8 minutes.
The Warriors were outscored by 3 with Steph out there yesterday, despite him playing 37 minutes.

I'm willing to listen to arguments for Jimmy as the GS MVP right now, but if you're thinking this because you thought the team was doing great with Jimmy and instantly fell off a cliff without him yesterday, that's just you not really paying close attention to something that even if it did back your conclusions, would be super-small sample size.

Anyway, I'd be inclined to favor the Warriors in the series with a healthy Jimmy & Steph, and I'd be inclined to favor the Rockets if either are seriously hurt.

[durantbird]

True but only come playoffs time

i.e. Only when it matters.


"All he does is catch touchdowns." lol.

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Yeah but MVP is regular season based

[California Gold]

The Warriors had only won 13 of their last 39 games before Butler came and they finished 23-7 (63 win pace) in the games he did play. That's a crazy turnaround. Without Butler they are basically a lottery team.

That’s a bit misleading. Since mid feb the warriors had one of the easiest schedules in the west and in the NBA. That had at least half to do with it too.

[LarsV8]

I was told Steph Curry was one of the best players ever.

So now Jimmy Butler is the MVP of the team?

[bovice]

butler is the best player on the warriors, been saying this for weeks. if you look at the opponents jimmy butler has faced, it's more impressive than the teams steph has beaten (non-KD years)