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Paul tells KD if he comes, he will come back for one more year behind Fox.
Spurs trade: Sochan/Keldon/Barnes/#8
Spurs get: KD
Suns trade: KD
Suns get: Bridges/Keldon/Sochan/#8
Hornets trade: Bridges
Hornets get: Barnes
Hornets decide its time to get serious about team-building and culture. They cut the future money due Bridges and bring in a Carolina guy for a year to showcase professionalism and it doesn't hurt that he can still play half the game and make 3's.
Suns gamble on the talent of Bridges over Barnes, hope to turn Keldon into a PG or center, give Sochan a run, and get pick 8. While getting KD to a destination he likes.
Spurs add KD to Wemby/Fox and Co without giving up a single core piece nor Castle nor any future picks. So this is the kind of bargain price where you believe in your young superstar and your hand-picked co-star by giving them an elite scorer.
Spurs trade: Sochan/Keldon/Barnes/#8
Spurs get: KD
Suns trade: KD
Suns get: Bridges/Keldon/Sochan/#8
Hornets trade: Bridges
Hornets get: Barnes
Hornets decide its time to get serious about team-building and culture. They cut the future money due Bridges and bring in a Carolina guy for a year to showcase professionalism and it doesn't hurt that he can still play half the game and make 3's.
Suns gamble on the talent of Bridges over Barnes, hope to turn Keldon into a PG or center, give Sochan a run, and get pick 8. While getting KD to a destination he likes.
Spurs add KD to Wemby/Fox and Co without giving up a single core piece nor Castle nor any future picks. So this is the kind of bargain price where you believe in your young superstar and your hand-picked co-star by giving them an elite scorer.
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I don't think that package would be overly interesting to the Suns, especially since it is really light on draft assets. None of the players acquired have any star potential, but are all solid players and come from an excellent franchise.
I am guessing the 2 main goals in a KD trade will be for Phoenix to get under the 2nd apron (not sure if this trade accomplishes that) and for Phoenix to get back some future draft assets.
I am guessing the 2 main goals in a KD trade will be for Phoenix to get under the 2nd apron (not sure if this trade accomplishes that) and for Phoenix to get back some future draft assets.
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Texas Chuck wrote:Paul tells KD if he comes, he will come back for one more year behind Fox.
Spurs trade: Sochan/Keldon/Barnes/#8
Spurs get: KD
Suns trade: KD
Suns get: Bridges/Keldon/Sochan/#8
Hornets trade: Bridges
Hornets get: Barnes
Hornets decide its time to get serious about team-building and culture. They cut the future money due Bridges and bring in a Carolina guy for a year to showcase professionalism and it doesn't hurt that he can still play half the game and make 3's.
Suns gamble on the talent of Bridges over Barnes, hope to turn Keldon into a PG or center, give Sochan a run, and get pick 8. While getting KD to a destination he likes.
Spurs add KD to Wemby/Fox and Co without giving up a single core piece nor Castle nor any future picks. So this is the kind of bargain price where you believe in your young superstar and your hand-picked co-star by giving them an elite scorer.
This feels like way too much for the Spurs to give up for a 37 year old KD. It doesn't fit their timeline. I don't think the Spurs are a good trade partner unless it's for a deal on the cheap.
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Can it be done without Sochan? I feel like both teams would prefer that. Branham and Champaigne? Maybe add the 2028 BOS 1st (with lottery protections?) if Sochan is removed?

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babyjax13 wrote:Can it be done without Sochan? I feel like both teams would prefer that. Branham and Champaigne? Maybe add the 2028 BOS 1st (with lottery protections?) if Sochan is removed?
Still too expensive. Would even a contender pay that price? You think OKC would prefer 37 yr old KD to the #8 pick? I'm not at all certain of that, and the Spurs aren't contending now.
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I like the idea but I think a starting C is needed for Suns as a major piece.
So I think Mark Williams should go to Suns in this deal
So I think Mark Williams should go to Suns in this deal
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zimpy27 wrote:I like the idea but I think a starting C is needed for Suns as a major piece.
So I think Mark Williams should go to Suns in this deal
turn sochan into williams?
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zimpy27 wrote:I like the idea but I think a starting C is needed for Suns as a major piece.
So I think Mark Williams should go to Suns in this deal
Phoenix has nothing remotely interesting to send back, so no
even this proposed trade has nothing really in it for Charlotte, it's just a way out of Bridges, which I don't really think the team wants. I'm indifferent on it personally.
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Not a huge fan of claxton but for op, why not. Do that then try to snag lively from mavs, shouldnt be hard for pelinka
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One_and_Done wrote:babyjax13 wrote:Can it be done without Sochan? I feel like both teams would prefer that. Branham and Champaigne? Maybe add the 2028 BOS 1st (with lottery protections?) if Sochan is removed?
Still too expensive. Would even a contender pay that price? You think OKC would prefer 37 yr old KD to the #8 pick? I'm not at all certain of that, and the Spurs aren't contending now.
KD is 36.
And yeah, I know that he will be 37 in the future. Like everyone all the time if they are alive.
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Saberestar wrote:One_and_Done wrote:babyjax13 wrote:Can it be done without Sochan? I feel like both teams would prefer that. Branham and Champaigne? Maybe add the 2028 BOS 1st (with lottery protections?) if Sochan is removed?
Still too expensive. Would even a contender pay that price? You think OKC would prefer 37 yr old KD to the #8 pick? I'm not at all certain of that, and the Spurs aren't contending now.
KD is 36.
And yeah, I know that he will be 37 in the future. Like everyone all the time if they are alive.
He will be 37 to start the season.

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babyjax13 wrote:Saberestar wrote:One_and_Done wrote:Still too expensive. Would even a contender pay that price? You think OKC would prefer 37 yr old KD to the #8 pick? I'm not at all certain of that, and the Spurs aren't contending now.
KD is 36.
And yeah, I know that he will be 37 in the future. Like everyone all the time if they are alive.
He will be 37 to start the season.
And what?
We are talking about trading for KD before the Draft. He is and he will be 36.
If he is traded to the Spurs he will be part of their franchise selling jerseys, making promotions and representing the team, selling tickets for next season and all that stuff that is huge for any NBA team.
I get that people saying he is 37 wants to put an exclamation point about him being old and wants to exaggerate it but it's unnecessary and false.
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Saberestar wrote:babyjax13 wrote:Saberestar wrote:KD is 36.
And yeah, I know that he will be 37 in the future. Like everyone all the time if they are alive.
He will be 37 to start the season.
And what?
We are talking about trading for KD before the Draft. He is and he will be 36.
If he is traded to the Spurs he will be part of their franchise selling jerseys, making promotions and representing the team, selling tickets for next season and all that stuff that is huge for any NBA team.
I get that people saying he is 37 wants to put an exclamation point about him being old and wants to exaggerate it but it's unnecessary and false.
He'll be over 37 when he starts playing games for them, that's the only factor that matters. He also just had another injury.
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Yeah, I think just 8 should be good for a 37 year old. Getting Sochan should make it a good deal for Phoenix.
I like it for all three.
SAS becomes a contender if Wemby is healthy. Have plenty of assets left to fill any hole and then retool in a couple years. If they don’t think Wemby will be healthy, there’s no reason to do anything at all..
I like it for all three.
SAS becomes a contender if Wemby is healthy. Have plenty of assets left to fill any hole and then retool in a couple years. If they don’t think Wemby will be healthy, there’s no reason to do anything at all..
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One_and_Done wrote:Saberestar wrote:babyjax13 wrote:He will be 37 to start the season.
And what?
We are talking about trading for KD before the Draft. He is and he will be 36.
If he is traded to the Spurs he will be part of their franchise selling jerseys, making promotions and representing the team, selling tickets for next season and all that stuff that is huge for any NBA team.
I get that people saying he is 37 wants to put an exclamation point about him being old and wants to exaggerate it but it's unnecessary and false.
He'll be over 37 when he starts playing games for them, that's the only factor that matters. He also just had another injury.
That’s the only factor that matters to YOU.
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zimpy27 wrote:I like the idea but I think a starting C is needed for Suns as a major piece.
So I think Mark Williams should go to Suns in this deal
Like instead of Bridges or with Bridges? Mark Williams for Barnes straight up would never happen.
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This deal would require a tremendous off-season by the Spurs to backfill their forwards while not having much in the way of picks and salary space. Trading Branham and Wesley instead of Sochan would help tremendously.
You don't get Durant and "figure the rest out later" at this point in his career. You also don't depend on running a short rotation with two stars coming off shortened seasons and a third being at the end of his career. We're already assuming Castle and Vassell can become quality role-players to make this big three work.
I like Durant, and this isn't bad value at all. But the Spurs would be paying this to take a shot at a title, and this roster isn't too close to that right now.
You don't get Durant and "figure the rest out later" at this point in his career. You also don't depend on running a short rotation with two stars coming off shortened seasons and a third being at the end of his career. We're already assuming Castle and Vassell can become quality role-players to make this big three work.
I like Durant, and this isn't bad value at all. But the Spurs would be paying this to take a shot at a title, and this roster isn't too close to that right now.
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This is another proposal that, while not off value wise, isn't the way Spurs should go. They should find pieces that can boost a young core for a 5+ years sustained run. Spurs aren't going to land #8 pick (or worse, there's a decent chance they might jump into top 4) for a long, long time, this move's entire value lies in the first 2 years. If we were talking about a 25 year old Wemby, then that might be ok, but right now I don't expect him to be able to capitalize on such a short time frame.
Durant would be 37 before he plays one second with the Spurs jersey, and yes, that kind of matters when it's the Spurs interests you have in mind. Do you? Otherwise you shouldn't tell Spurs fans what they should be concerned about.
Saberestar wrote:One_and_Done wrote:Saberestar wrote:And what?
We are talking about trading for KD before the Draft. He is and he will be 36.
If he is traded to the Spurs he will be part of their franchise selling jerseys, making promotions and representing the team, selling tickets for next season and all that stuff that is huge for any NBA team.
I get that people saying he is 37 wants to put an exclamation point about him being old and wants to exaggerate it but it's unnecessary and false.
He'll be over 37 when he starts playing games for them, that's the only factor that matters. He also just had another injury.
That’s the only factor that matters to YOU.
Durant would be 37 before he plays one second with the Spurs jersey, and yes, that kind of matters when it's the Spurs interests you have in mind. Do you? Otherwise you shouldn't tell Spurs fans what they should be concerned about.
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Saberestar wrote:babyjax13 wrote:Saberestar wrote:KD is 36.
And yeah, I know that he will be 37 in the future. Like everyone all the time if they are alive.
He will be 37 to start the season.
And what?
We are talking about trading for KD before the Draft. He is and he will be 36.
If he is traded to the Spurs he will be part of their franchise selling jerseys, making promotions and representing the team, selling tickets for next season and all that stuff that is huge for any NBA team.
I get that people saying he is 37 wants to put an exclamation point about him being old and wants to exaggerate it but it's unnecessary and false.
It's not false or an exaggeration. At the time he plays for any team that trades for him, he will be 37. Hes clearly not a part of any team's future, so they have to weigh the years they could have young players and/or players they could draft vs. Durant.

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Saberestar wrote:One_and_Done wrote:Saberestar wrote:And what?
We are talking about trading for KD before the Draft. He is and he will be 36.
If he is traded to the Spurs he will be part of their franchise selling jerseys, making promotions and representing the team, selling tickets for next season and all that stuff that is huge for any NBA team.
I get that people saying he is 37 wants to put an exclamation point about him being old and wants to exaggerate it but it's unnecessary and false.
He'll be over 37 when he starts playing games for them, that's the only factor that matters. He also just had another injury.
That’s the only factor that matters to YOU.
What else matters? Him being 36 before he plays with the team is irrelevant. He was 26 a decade ago too, should the Spurs care about that as well? Bizarre position tbh.
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