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Post#521 » by clyde21 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:29 am

Eagles and Chiefs just swapped positions
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Post#522 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:30 am

OT, DT flying off the board while DEs linger. Not ideal for us in the second and third round. I've loved going DE in the sending round if mocks this year (Ezeiruaku, Scourton, Jackson, Tuimaloau). The way this draft is shaping up, might have been better to go DT in the first....
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Post#523 » by clyde21 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:33 am

Eagles get Jihaad...smh man
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Post#524 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:39 am

Mike Green to the Chiefs seems like a match made in heaven.
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Post#525 » by clyde21 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:41 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Mike Green to the Chiefs seems like a match made in heaven.


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Post#526 » by RIPskaterdude » Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:42 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Mike Green to the Chiefs seems like a match made in heaven.
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Post#527 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:44 am

Or Simmons. Ha! Of course. Never wish ill for a guy, but hopefully that injury really is serious.
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Post#528 » by RIPskaterdude » Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:46 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:NVM. Gave up a third in this draft, but get a first next year. Sheesh.
Yeah, wish the 49ers would have made a trade like that to trade down a few spots. Incredible value

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Post#529 » by clyde21 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 3:56 am

few notes from Lynch/Kyle presser:

- they tried trading up for Mykel a few spots up
- they emphasized that he's only 20 years old, they liked that
- still looking to address DL more and early
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Post#530 » by clyde21 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:17 am

looking at the top of the second, don't see us going OL probably not until at least the third, but also nothing really enticing at the DL at our pick either, would probably prefer to wait for the 3rd/4th there too.

and since we already took at DE, kinda of an awkward board for us. don't see us double dipping at DE again this early even with Green, Ezeiruaku, Scourton, Tuimolaou all available.

i might get killed for this, especially by CC, but I'd probably take Trev Henderson or even Luther Burden with our 2nd if they're available, that way I'm heading into the 3rd/4th just worried about tackling the trenches.

if not, and we want to force a DT or OL pick, it's one of Shemar Turner, Alfred Collins on the DL, or Wyatt Milum or Tate Ratledge on the OL.

if I had to predict what they'll do though, they'll probably go DB.
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Post#531 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:22 am

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CrimsonCrew wrote:NVM. Gave up a third in this draft, but get a first next year. Sheesh.
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Honestly, because this draft is so deep, I don't necessarily hate it for the falcons. They play in a bad division, pass rush was their glaring need and they've addressed that, and this draft is so deep that the 101 pick they get from the Rams may be almost as valuable as the 46 pick they traded. Though that third rounder is a comp pick.
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Post#532 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:24 am

clyde21 wrote:few notes from Lynch/Kyle presser:

- they tried trading up for Mykel a few spots up
- they emphasized that he's only 20 years old, they liked that
- still looking to address DL more and early


Of course they did. SMH. Never before has there been a FO so fundamentally incapable of letting a draft come to them.
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Re: 2025 nfl draft thread 

Post#534 » by RIPskaterdude » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:28 am

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clyde21 wrote:few notes from Lynch/Kyle presser:

- they tried trading up for Mykel a few spots up
- they emphasized that he's only 20 years old, they liked that
- still looking to address DL more and early


Of course they did. SMH. Never before has there been a FO so fundamentally incapable of letting a draft come to them.
I bet they thought NO was gonna grab him. Imagine the package they would have had to give to get him
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Post#536 » by clyde21 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:47 am

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some strong names there still, deep class and the 2nd/3rd rounds are the bread and butter. don't **** it up FO.
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Post#537 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:54 am

clyde21 wrote:looking at the top of the second, don't see us going OL probably not until at least the third, but also nothing really enticing at the DL at our pick either, would probably prefer to wait for the 3rd/4th there too.

and since we already took at DE, kinda of an awkward board for us. don't see us double dipping at DE again this early even with Green, Ezeiruaku, Scourton, Tuimolaou all available.

i might get killed for this, especially by CC, but I'd probably take Trev Henderson or even Luther Burden with our 2nd if they're available, that way I'm heading into the 3rd/4th just worried about tackling the trenches.

if not, and we want to force a DT or OL pick, it's one of Shemar Turner, Alfred Collins on the DL, or Wyatt Milum or Tate Ratledge on the OL.

if I had to predict what they'll do though, they'll probably go DB.


Hahaha. You know me so well. I don't have a fundamental problem with Henderson or Burden in the second, the problem for me is the opportunity cost elsewhere and the state of this roster. I know the trenches are a huge need, but that's not nearly all. We don't have a viable third CB, much less a fourth. Our starting FS right now was bad in coverage - and worse against the run. Arguably we need two LBs. We don't have a receiving option at TE behind Kittle, who is getting older and is a huge part of our offense. I think you have to prioritize those positions over RB and WR on this roster.

Having said that, Burden would be pretty tempting. At one point there was talk of him at 11 (granted not terribly serious). The problem for me is that he profiles as a flanker while our biggest question mark is at split end. Now, hopefully Aiyuk rounds back into form and locks that spot up for the next four years, but if he doesn't, then next offseason we could lose him and Jennings and have Burden (ideal flanker), Pearsall (ideal flanker or slot), and maybe Cowing as a less-than-stellar fit at split end. Do we take another WR high at that point? Incidentally, WR is the one position that can challenge DL for investment under this regime, with two firsts, two seconds, a high-priced FA, a mid-season trade for high value, and a bunch of picks in rounds 3-7. I'd rather wait and take a guy later.

I just can't get behind a RB in the second in this draft. Henderson would be awesome in this system, but I don't know that he's going to be that much better than the guy we could get with our fourth-round comp pick. Last year, maybe. This year, we just have too many needs.

In terms of tomorrow, as I said earlier, this draft is a kick in the nuts so far as there is so much value left at DE. I'm not sure Williams is head=and-shoulders better than Scourton or Tuimoloau would be, and there's a pretty good chance both will be on the board at 43. I agree DB is a fairly likely position. If Will Johnson is still there, you almost have to consider him. Same goes for Emmanwori, though I don't think he's a great fit for our needs. I'd be happy with Trey Amos or Azaraye'h Thomas.

We could go Ersery at OL, to start at OG and groom for LT. Haven't really given him a lot of thought, but he's talented if raw. Schwesinger at LB appears at least a possibility, though it would be a surprise. I could see several DTs as they pick, though none seem like great value at this point. We shall see....
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Post#538 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:00 am

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Conspicuous absence of the DT position. But I could live with them taking two DTs in rounds three and four if the value isn't there in the second.
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Post#539 » by clyde21 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:29 am

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clyde21 wrote:looking at the top of the second, don't see us going OL probably not until at least the third, but also nothing really enticing at the DL at our pick either, would probably prefer to wait for the 3rd/4th there too.

and since we already took at DE, kinda of an awkward board for us. don't see us double dipping at DE again this early even with Green, Ezeiruaku, Scourton, Tuimolaou all available.

i might get killed for this, especially by CC, but I'd probably take Trev Henderson or even Luther Burden with our 2nd if they're available, that way I'm heading into the 3rd/4th just worried about tackling the trenches.

if not, and we want to force a DT or OL pick, it's one of Shemar Turner, Alfred Collins on the DL, or Wyatt Milum or Tate Ratledge on the OL.

if I had to predict what they'll do though, they'll probably go DB.


Hahaha. You know me so well. I don't have a fundamental problem with Henderson or Burden in the second, the problem for me is the opportunity cost elsewhere and the state of this roster. I know the trenches are a huge need, but that's not nearly all. We don't have a viable third CB, much less a fourth. Our starting FS right now was bad in coverage - and worse against the run. Arguably we need two LBs. We don't have a receiving option at TE behind Kittle, who is getting older and is a huge part of our offense. I think you have to prioritize those positions over RB and WR on this roster.

Having said that, Burden would be pretty tempting. At one point there was talk of him at 11 (granted not terribly serious). The problem for me is that he profiles as a flanker while our biggest question mark is at split end. Now, hopefully Aiyuk rounds back into form and locks that spot up for the next four years, but if he doesn't, then next offseason we could lose him and Jennings and have Burden (ideal flanker), Pearsall (ideal flanker or slot), and maybe Cowing as a less-than-stellar fit at split end. Do we take another WR high at that point? Incidentally, WR is the one position that can challenge DL for investment under this regime, with two firsts, two seconds, a high-priced FA, a mid-season trade for high value, and a bunch of picks in rounds 3-7. I'd rather wait and take a guy later.

I just can't get behind a RB in the second in this draft. Henderson would be awesome in this system, but I don't know that he's going to be that much better than the guy we could get with our fourth-round comp pick. Last year, maybe. This year, we just have too many needs.

In terms of tomorrow, as I said earlier, this draft is a kick in the nuts so far as there is so much value left at DE. I'm not sure Williams is head=and-shoulders better than Scourton or Tuimoloau would be, and there's a pretty good chance both will be on the board at 43. I agree DB is a fairly likely position. If Will Johnson is still there, you almost have to consider him. Same goes for Emmanwori, though I don't think he's a great fit for our needs. I'd be happy with Trey Amos or Azaraye'h Thomas.

We could go Ersery at OL, to start at OG and groom for LT. Haven't really given him a lot of thought, but he's talented if raw. Schwesinger at LB appears at least a possibility, though it would be a surprise. I could see several DTs as they pick, though none seem like great value at this point. We shall see....


if we go DB, tbh I don't want CB, I'd take Kevin Winston Jr. and lock up FS. don't see a huge difference between the CBs available here and one we can get in the 4th tbh (i'm also just not a big CB early guy), but a guy like Winston is just head and shoulders better than any safety we can get later.

re: Henderson, he's just not a great fit schematically he's also probably the best pass protecting back as well in this class, like he's a *perfect* 3rd down back for us which and that's the only reason I'd consider him here for us, other than the board falling where it is.
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Re: 2025 nfl draft thread 

Post#540 » by Jikkle » Fri Apr 25, 2025 8:57 am

I was at work when the draft was going on so finally had the chance to look at the talk about Mykel Williams.

Not a draftnik by any means but I'll say from what I've read and seen I like the pick. With what was available I just didn't see any pick that would've been a homerun and basically every player would've been carrying baggage of some kind.

Seems like he's committed to being great and looks like a future leader of the locker room. Like the fact that he's 20 basically 21 so he's got room to grow and not a 24 year old senior that what you draft is what you'll get. Has those physical tools that you can't teach and definitely not a lot of human beings walking the earth have.

I just think at worst you're looking at a quality starter and at best you might have Aldon Smith that's better at stopping the run and no off the field issues to derail his career.

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