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mademan wrote:Ive changed my pick a few times, but im really starting to like Traoure. He really has a Shai kind of pace to his game where he's able to get into the paint at will with his change of speed. The NBA game and space will be amazing for him
Buff wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:Mobley wins dpoty. Loved him in that draft.
But now his aav jumps big
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People here would HATE Mobley and his supermax seeing how he is nowhere close to being a #1
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An Eastern Conference scout told HoopsHype on Murray-Boyles: “I don’t like his game at all. The fact that people even think he’s going to be a lottery pick is crazy. He can’t even play the three – he moves slowly. And sure, he’s a great defender, but honestly, Grant Williams had more offensive talent coming out of college than this guy.”
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A scout told HoopsHype: “Maluach is raw but huge and super athletic. Hands aren’t great, though. One guy I know called him a lankier DeAndre Jordan. But maybe Rudy Gobert’s hands? Yeah, and not the same instincts as Gobert. DJ was also underrated in terms of feel. And Maluach isn’t some elite rim protector. I see the appeal, but he has a ways to go. Starting center? Probably. Star? I’m not sold.”
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A coach told HoopsHype on Queen: “I don’t think that Derik Queen is the best big in the draft. That’s basically the argument, he is also going to be 21 during his rookie season. He’s a grown man out there. Yeah, he’s the safe pick –polished, strong in the post, but doesn’t have a ton of upside.”
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A pro scout told HoospHype on Edgecombe: “VJ’s measurements worry me, though. 6-foot-3.5 barefoot, 6-foot-6 wingspan – undersized for a combo guard. Reminds me of Malik Monk but with better defense. Yeah, he’s left-hand dominant, not a pure playmaker. But that first step… explosive as hell. If he develops a reliable jumper, he’s a problem.”
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A pro scout told HoospHype: “Gives me lefty Cade Cunningham vibes –plays at his own pace, lulling defenders to sleep before turning it on. Might have the highest creation ceiling in this class, even over Flagg. Not a freak athlete but so crafty finishing through contact. That jumper’s the big question – if it comes around, we’re talking All-NBA potential.”
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An Eastern Conference scout told HoopsHype on Fleming: “That’s my guy, I love his game. Just perfect for what we need. A 6-foot-9 forward that’ll stretch the floor and be able to guard in space as a day one role player is a steal for any team. I just don’t think he will fall to us, he’s on a lot of people’s boards.”
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An international scout told HoopsHype on Essengue: “Insane physical tools – 7-foot-pliswingspan and explosive off two feet. Raw offensively and everything defensively. His hands have improved and he’s starting to show touch around the rim. A year away from being a year year away, but the ceiling is a uber athletic tweener combo foward.”
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An international scout told HoopsHype on Traore: “French guard with an NBA-ready playmaking and potential to be a floor-spacer. Shooting is behind the ballhandling, playmaking and fluid athleticism is what intrigues people. If he develops even an average three, he’s a rotation player at least. I find him less intriguing than Killian Hayes was.”
An assistant coach told HoopsHype on Bryant: “This kid came out of nowhere this season – total surprise package. Mostly coming off the bench but he’s been absolutely lights out as a floor spacer, knocking down threes at a crazy clip. What I love is that Tommy Lloyd trusts him defensively too. At 6-foot-8 with that wingspan, he’s got perfect modern wing size – can guard multiple positions and stretch the floor. Sneaky good find.”
WuTang_OG wrote:
Tripod wrote:Buff wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:Mobley wins dpoty. Loved him in that draft.
But now his aav jumps big
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg
People here would HATE Mobley and his supermax seeing how he is nowhere close to being a #1
Mobley is in the perfect spot for himself.
Has 2 All Star guards who can beat their man off the dribble and create easy lobs for him.
Rest of the team has lots of shooting so creates room inside for him.
Defensively gets to play with another All Star big.
Credit him for working on his 3 though. Has made him more valuable. Hell, we should be hiring away whoever helps their guys shoot 3's and scrap NOAH.
But yeah, Mobley is great and gifted physically but he also is on the perfect team for himself. And being a 3rd/4th(Jerome) option on offense is no big deal.
With his raise, Mobley jumped from 33 to 18th highest paid. Cavs now have 2 top 20 and 3 in the top 31 highest paid next year. Raps have no one in the top 35.
Brinbe wrote:Mobley is def in an ideal spot to concentrate on his strengths and if they win a championship, he'll be worth every penny. But the Cavs will have a short window to do so unless their ownership is prepared to pay deep into the luxury to keep that roster together. And maybe they will, but so far not many owners seem to have that desire in the long-term. Even in Boston they sold out before having to pay out and the next group may break it all apart soon.
Even more reason why this front office needs to be proactive with trying to trade RJ/Gradey before overpaying for them.
WuTang_OG wrote:Indeed wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:Mobley wins dpoty. Loved him in that draft.
But now his aav jumps big
?s=46&t=0YpMScWXY2zRUqR8fH-usg
I liked him in that draft and think he has the highest ceiling, but I think Sarr could be the better prospect in the future.
Sarr won’t even sniff mobley
Psubs wrote:Brinbe wrote:Mobley is def in an ideal spot to concentrate on his strengths and if they win a championship, he'll be worth every penny. But the Cavs will have a short window to do so unless their ownership is prepared to pay deep into the luxury to keep that roster together. And maybe they will, but so far not many owners seem to have that desire in the long-term. Even in Boston they sold out before having to pay out and the next group may break it all apart soon.
Even more reason why this front office needs to be proactive with trying to trade RJ/Gradey before overpaying for them.
I may have been the only one that considered taking him #1 over Cade.
Psubs wrote:Brinbe wrote:Mobley is def in an ideal spot to concentrate on his strengths and if they win a championship, he'll be worth every penny. But the Cavs will have a short window to do so unless their ownership is prepared to pay deep into the luxury to keep that roster together. And maybe they will, but so far not many owners seem to have that desire in the long-term. Even in Boston they sold out before having to pay out and the next group may break it all apart soon.
Even more reason why this front office needs to be proactive with trying to trade RJ/Gradey before overpaying for them.
I may have been the only one that considered taking him #1 over Cade.
WuTang_OG wrote:https://hoopshype.com/lists/aggregate-2025-nba-mock-draft-5-0-top-5-solidifies-walter-clayton-jr-rises/
Carter BryantAn assistant coach told HoopsHype on Bryant: “This kid came out of nowhere this season – total surprise package. Mostly coming off the bench but he’s been absolutely lights out as a floor spacer, knocking down threes at a crazy clip. What I love is that Tommy Lloyd trusts him defensively too. At 6-foot-8 with that wingspan, he’s got perfect modern wing size – can guard multiple positions and stretch the floor. Sneaky good find.”
Indeed wrote:Tripod wrote:Buff wrote:
People here would HATE Mobley and his supermax seeing how he is nowhere close to being a #1
Mobley is in the perfect spot for himself.
Has 2 All Star guards who can beat their man off the dribble and create easy lobs for him.
Rest of the team has lots of shooting so creates room inside for him.
Defensively gets to play with another All Star big.
Credit him for working on his 3 though. Has made him more valuable. Hell, we should be hiring away whoever helps their guys shoot 3's and scrap NOAH.
But yeah, Mobley is great and gifted physically but he also is on the perfect team for himself. And being a 3rd/4th(Jerome) option on offense is no big deal.
With his raise, Mobley jumped from 33 to 18th highest paid. Cavs now have 2 top 20 and 3 in the top 31 highest paid next year. Raps have no one in the top 35.
I can understand his offense being feed by guards, but claiming his defense is due to another All Star big just isn't true based on stats. His block rate at 4.7% is top 10 (tied with JJJ). His corner 3 point shooting is over 40% from the corner, and overall is above 37%. He fills the role perfectly for a 3&D C with skills (passing rate at 15% is top 100 including guards).
Indeed wrote:WuTang_OG wrote:Indeed wrote:
I liked him in that draft and think he has the highest ceiling, but I think Sarr could be the better prospect in the future.
Sarr won’t even sniff mobley
Time will tell.
Both Sarr and Mobley are pretty similar in their first year on defense. The difference would be on offense, where Sarr has 45% of shots from 3, where that is not his strength. To be fair, Mobley was a better shooter with better shooting at 10-15 feet. Everything else (including assist rate, block rate, steal rate, etc.) they are identical in their first year.
Indeed wrote:Rodrickle wrote:Indeed wrote:
Or you are being rediculous where most drafting site suggested that Maluach is a project, he is raw. Just because he starts, it doesnt mean most freshman bigs in collage arent raw.
That's not a response to most of the points I made above. They're both raw. One much more than the other. Chomche closer to Bruno Caboclo. Khaman has much better size and standing reach. There's a reason why Khaman is mocked as a lottery pick and Chomche was mocked in the second round of a terrible draft and likely would not have been selected if it wasn't for Masai. I still like Chomche and think he will turn out to be decent, but he wasn't in the same league as maluach as a prospect and every GM will agree
The mock is just potential and hype, Maluach is as raw as Chomche.
Do I have to remind you James Wiseman who is the #2 pick on 2020?
WuTang_OG wrote:mademan wrote:Ive changed my pick a few times, but im really starting to like Traoure. He really has a Shai kind of pace to his game where he's able to get into the paint at will with his change of speed. The NBA game and space will be amazing for him
I worry about the shot and defense but he can manipulate screens and get into the lane and create - something we need.
Rodrickle wrote:Indeed wrote:Rodrickle wrote:
That's not a response to most of the points I made above. They're both raw. One much more than the other. Chomche closer to Bruno Caboclo. Khaman has much better size and standing reach. There's a reason why Khaman is mocked as a lottery pick and Chomche was mocked in the second round of a terrible draft and likely would not have been selected if it wasn't for Masai. I still like Chomche and think he will turn out to be decent, but he wasn't in the same league as maluach as a prospect and every GM will agree
The mock is just potential and hype, Maluach is as raw as Chomche.
Do I have to remind you James Wiseman who is the #2 pick on 2020?
Offensively maybe. But Maluach just has sheer size to his advantage. Duke's coach praised his Maluach's defensive awareness, althoug he doesn't have teh instincts of Gobert or even Porzingis. Chomche is much more raw if you watch him in the G League, although he has improved.
James Wiseman had no defensive awareness whatsoever and was drafted in the covid year with limited scouting after playing only 3 college games. Overrated athlete as well.