FIRE WELTMAN

[fendilim]

You don’t understand that I’m not blaming Weltman for KCP not shooting well.

In blaming him for wasting the money on a SG that doesn’t work well in the system HE created by not acquiring players with proper skillsets prior to signing KCP.

Signing a high or low volume SG means nothing when your system doesn’t move the ball well or set those guys up to get touches even. KCP barely gets in rhythm to shoot the ball and even when he does he sucks.

Get it?

so you’re blaming him for the system that doesn’t move the ball well? Isn’t that on Mosely…? Which I would agree lol

Is Weltman in charge of leaving Mosely in place? Your argument is just as damming.

So if a child is guilty of something, the parent should be convicted too, Cause he is responsible of bringing the child to the world?

[RichCollab]

so you’re blaming him for the system that doesn’t move the ball well? Isn’t that on Mosely…? Which I would agree lol

Is Weltman in charge of leaving Mosely in place? Your argument is just as damming.

So if a child is guilty of something, the parent should be convicted too, Cause he is responsible of bringing the child to the world?

He is responsible for making a coaching change. You lost me with the child reference.

[fendilim]

Is Weltman in charge of leaving Mosely in place? Your argument is just as damming.

So if a child is guilty of something, the parent should be convicted too, Cause he is responsible of bringing the child to the world?

He is responsible for making a coaching change. You lost me with the child reference.

The trajectory of the team has been going up since we traded Vuc, I’m not sure why you think this warrants a coaching change.

This team actually overachieved this season considering injuries that has decimated this team. We’ve had a healthy roster for only the first 4-5 games of the season, IIRC.

[RichCollab]

So if a child is guilty of something, the parent should be convicted too, Cause he is responsible of bringing the child to the world?

He is responsible for making a coaching change. You lost me with the child reference.

The trajectory of the team has been going up since we traded Vuc, I’m not sure why you think this warrants a coaching change.

This team actually overachieved this season considering injuries that has decimated this team. We’ve had a healthy roster for only the first 4-5 games of the season, IIRC.

Historic bad offensive season. Seems like a good reason to start with.

[fendilim]

He is responsible for making a coaching change. You lost me with the child reference.

The trajectory of the team has been going up since we traded Vuc, I’m not sure why you think this warrants a coaching change.

This team actually overachieved this season considering injuries that has decimated this team. We’ve had a healthy roster for only the first 4-5 games of the season, IIRC.

Historic bad offensive season. Seems like a good reason to start with.

i agree, but i dont think that’s enough to warrant a coaching change. Haha lets just be realistic lol

[Rainwater]

They have built a good team 4 years after a rebuild. Put some guys around Franz and Paolo and everything is good.

[Skybox]

As we hear every playoff commentator and present & former player comment on how “we’re just a few pieces away” and “if we add a PG”, etc…remember, they’re not following as closely as we have been. It’s not really “Good Job Weltman, you’re on track” to people who’ve been paying attention…it’s “Why TF didn’t we already have one when you had ALL the cap space in the world?” and “We could have been 4 seed in the weak East, even with Suggs & Moe out, maybe 3rd if healthy”

Maybe he fixes it now that the whole world is paying attention, but a lot of the fixing will start with undoing big errors- like removing KCP & Jett. Imagine the same team, this year with Cason Wallace or Ty Jerome or …?

Jerome is just an example…his “discovery” by CLE was phenomenal and it wouldn’t have to be that extreme a hit. I actually liked the attempt to do the same with Fultz- it just didn’t work out in the same way. Then, doubling down & extending Fultz was just idiotic. CoJo was a really good one, but much lower level in importance. Drafting Bamba was a fail, but imo an understandable one that I don’t fault him too much for.

Weltman has NOT done his job well. His missteps don’t leap off the page like trading Luka but he’s made significant mistakes and been very significantly inactive at times of opportunity & obvious need. Even if he scores big this summer, his decisions (and non-decisions) have wasted AT LEAST one year of explosive progress for this team. We could have been a lot better this season - injuries or not.

[cedric76]

Look how we are performing against the champ with 2 key players out.

Team well built, well done GM

Add Sexton this summer and we r Good

[drsd]

so you’re blaming him for the system that doesn’t move the ball well? Isn’t that on Mosely…? Which I would agree lol

Is Weltman in charge of leaving Mosely in place? Your argument is just as damming.

So if a child is guilty of something, the parent should be convicted too, Cause he is responsible of bringing the child to the world?

In Florida law, the answer is sometimes-Yes. Notably in violent crimes that involve guns, and also in civil action against property damage.

But here to this topic, if Weltman is fired, that will have been by a decision from Alex Martins.
Martins might decide that a new GM/PBO should have a free hand in firing their own desired coach.
So yes: it might make sense to fire Weltman, Parker, and Mosley as a package. If a change were to be made.

That said, there is no gosh-darn-way-in-heck there will be a change in management or coaching this off-season.

[BlueBalls]

It mystifies me that there are people who think weltman should stay. Gobsmacked. He’s terrible and he’s done more than enough damage.

[JT3000]

Look how we are performing against the champ with 2 key players out.

Team well built, well done GM

Add Sexton this summer and we r Good

Go away.

[T-Cat]

Is Weltman in charge of leaving Mosely in place? Your argument is just as damming.

So if a child is guilty of something, the parent should be convicted too, Cause he is responsible of bringing the child to the world?

In Florida law, the answer is sometimes-Yes. Notably in violent crimes that involve guns, and also in civil action against property damage.

But here to this topic, if Weltman is fired, that will have been by a decision from Alex Martins.
Martins might decide that a new GM/PBO should have a free hand in firing their own desired coach.
So yes: it might make sense to fire Weltman, Parker, and Mosley as a package. If a change were to be made.

That said, there is no gosh-darn-way-in-heck there will be a change in management or coaching this off-season.

Anthony Parker just got here! We don't know what he would have done because Jeff Weltman is in the way!

[fendilim]

Look how we are performing against the champ with 2 key players out.

Team well built, well done GM

Add Sexton this summer and we r Good

Go away.

Tbh, if there’s one thing Jeff should be fired about, it is him not hiring a shooting coach.

He has a good run, 2 teams built during his tenure here, but one common weakness. SHOOTING.

In a league where shooting is now a premium, you have to make sure your players are being coached properly and getting their shots in.

The team keeps building new facilities but can’t even hire a shooting coach. Lol

[Skin]

Something dramatic needs to happen or we will lose Paolo. Outside of him, there's no more upside to this team. The rest of them have either reached their limit, are injury prone, or don't have star upside.

We need to be more aggressive than we ever have been. This team can't shoot. We are dead in the water. Nothing else matters if you can't shoot in the NBA.

[Skin]

We are 2 playoff seasons in with R1 exits. No more hitting on a high pick in the lottery. Soon to be capped out. We are sitting here with a flawly built team that is only as good as being a Round 1 participant. Welcome to NBA aybss.

We"ve seen how this story plays out unfortunately. Just another round.

[Fortune Teller]

Bottom 10 in offense all 8 seasons Jeff has been in charge. Historically bad this season. Lowest scoring team in playoffs, lowest 3-point percentage in playoffs. Wasted his cap-space summer last year on literally nothing, now the team will be in the second apron next season as an easy first-round exit. Sane glaring holes as last two summers only this summer we’ll have limited assets. Isaac, Cole and Wendell all regressed this season and their trade value has diminished.

We’re not as “close” as people seem to think. The competition all have multiple weapons and we’re running Paolo into the dirt. Even the folks who like what Jeff has done have to admit there’s no evidence — and I mean none — to suggest he’ll flip a switch this summer and improve the team under much more difficult conditions than he’s faced to date.

[axl_c_cool]

Bottom 10 in offense all 8 seasons Jeff has been in charge. Historically bad this season. Lowest scoring team in playoffs, lowest 3-point percentage in playoffs. Wasted his cap-space summer last year on literally nothing, now the team will be in the second apron next season as an easy first-round exit. Sane glaring holes as last two summers only this summer we’ll have limited assets. Isaac, Cole and Wendell all regressed this season and their trade value has diminished.

We’re not as “close” as people seem to think. The competition all have multiple weapons and we’re running Paolo into the dirt. Even the folks who like what Jeff has done have to admit there’s no evidence — and I mean none — to suggest he’ll flip a switch this summer and improve the team under much more difficult conditions than he’s faced to date.

While I do think some of this is a little, and I’m not a Jeff defender, we need to add offence. We have our first and third options, we need a legit second option, and ideally at SG or PG (Suggs at the other position). I do think Jeff will make moves based on what PB said after the game, he wants to win.

[Cammo101]

This was a wasted season, as predicted last offseason when our big move was KCP. Wake me up when we make a real move, with real stakes.

[thelead]

We are up against the 2nd apron next season BEFORE Paolo's max contract???? This is the best Weltman can do? GTFO.

[eyriq]

We are up against the 2nd apron next season BEFORE Paolo's max contract???? This is the best Weltman can do? GTFO.

In 2026-27 we have just ten players under contract totaling 100.24% of the cap. Team option on Cole with 7.7%.

If we make both picks this year they'll be in there two but will be cheap.

Very healthy cap sheet, nothing to knock Weltman over imo.