OT: NFL 25 Draft and Beyond Thread

[mpharris36]

Drafting Taysom Hill with Sanders available... sick

I have no idea at this point man. We aren't privy the to interviews and meetings. Did he completely tank them? Are coaches worried about there job security with Deion looming. If you think he's more of a backup than a starter do you want the potential circus with the fanbase wanting him to play over your starter?

I am stumped. I wasn't a huge fan of his potential but his on the field play was worthy of a 2nd round pick at least....its almost the 4th round.

Teams that don't even have a QB like Pittsburgh aren't even touching him in the 3rd round...something is up...

Being the franchise qb is basically being the head of a fortune500 company. Clearly no one is comfortable with his character cause the talent is there.

I was bummed as hell the Hawks passed on him 4x but what the hell do I know.

Yeah, I hear ya, there is just more than talent needed for the QB position. But the kid still deserves his moment to be drafted...his on the field play warrants being picked way before now...we don't have the whole story, eventually something will come out.


I like Milroe....he's a lotto ticket. He legit is a plus plus runner (like Lamar/Vick level) with a really strong arm.

It's just everything in between and the footwork that are a mess and you say well that what being a QB and not a RB is...true. But if you get him to even 60% of his potential he could be something. Like I said he can be used as a weapon/redzone wildcat weapon at minimum with the threat to throw.

[Guano]

I have no idea at this point man. We aren't privy the to interviews and meetings. Did he completely tank them? Are coaches worried about there job security with Deion looming. If you think he's more of a backup than a starter do you want the potential circus with the fanbase wanting him to play over your starter?

I am stumped. I wasn't a huge fan of his potential but his on the field play was worthy of a 2nd round pick at least....its almost the 4th round.

Teams that don't even have a QB like Pittsburgh aren't even touching him in the 3rd round...something is up...

Being the franchise qb is basically being the head of a fortune500 company. Clearly no one is comfortable with his character cause the talent is there.

I was bummed as hell the Hawks passed on him 4x but what the hell do I know.

Yeah, I hear ya, there is just more than talent needed for the QB position. But the kid still deserves his moment to be drafted...his on the field play warrants being picked way before now...we don't have the whole story, eventually something will come out.


I like Milroe....he's a lotto ticket. He legit is a plus plus runner (like Lamar/Vick level) with a really strong arm.

It's just everything in between and the footwork that are a mess and you say well that what being a QB and not a RB is...true. But if you get him to even 60% of his potential he could be something. Like I said he can be used as a weapon/redzone wildcat weapon at minimum with the threat to throw.

He has time to develop so hope they can make it happen. And for a 3rd it's a safe pick though they have other glaring holes that need addressed but whatever.

As for Sanders the NFL is weird. And Im real curious the reason behind why a talent qb is being blackballed

[GONYK]

No matter where you think Sanders falls on the talent/tools/temperament scales, there's no way in hell Dillon fuggin Gabriel should be picked before him.

[TerrenceClarke]

Yall all trying to dance around the **** and be like

“something is up”

“ I’m stumped “

I’m seeing a multitude of responses from a bunch of people.

I will spell it out for you.

It’s called COLLUSION.

It’s the only way something happens like this. Yall want to say it’s everything but what it is.


So no. The Giants are not off the hook they are complicit like everyone else.

It’s always non black people trying to tell black men what they sense isn’t what it is. As if the world is a righteous place and stuff like this does not go on. The world is filled with milk and honey.

Yall honestly think there is no group chat with his name being talked about? Like come on.

[Starksfor3yes]

Jets drafted 2 of the younger players in the draft, suggesting an eye on 2026 and beyond more than 2025.

Mason Taylor round 2 and Azareye'h Thomas round 3. I think that's a sound approach.

Just wished that they took a WR in that 3rd round but overall I am ok with the picks.

[ScienceOfLosing]

All that “Not picking Sanders over Dart is Racist!” talk seemed to have stopped.
Guess it took 4 rounds of every team passing on him again and again to prove that it wasn’t.
Or is that not enough?

[Kampuchea]

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[blueNorange]

sanders should’ve definitely been a 2nd round talent

[Strick]

Even if the interviews were half as bad as they allegedly were… there’s being cautious because of “red flags” and then there’s “sending a message”. It sure seems like we are leaning towards the latter…

Sound bites, and clips are out there and they don’t sound great, but they are also very far from new. Someone suddenly being a top 10 pick and falling out of the top 100+ picks is a wild.

There are people facing cases with legitimate jail time that get picked before day 3 and they aren’t playing the most important position in football

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McShay is well connected and if this is true, it’s definitely not a good look on his part.

Personally I hope he takes this moment and has a chip on his shoulder to make A LOT of coaches and front offices look bad

[ScienceOfLosing]

Even if the interviews were half as bad as they allegedly were… there’s being cautious because of “red flags” and then there’s “sending a message”. It sure seems like we are leaning towards the latter…

Sound bites, and clips are out there and they don’t sound great, but they are also very far from new. Someone suddenly being a top 10 pick and falling out of the top 100+ picks is a wild.

There are people facing cases with legitimate jail time that get picked before day 3 and they aren’t playing the most important position in football

Read on Twitter

McShay is well connected and if this is true, it’s definitely not a good look on his part.

Personally I hope he takes this moment and has a chip on his shoulder to make A LOT of coaches and front offices look bad

Sanders should use this to become a better and more respectful person.
His slide is on him and from what we are hearing, rightfully so.
Apparently he already has a chip on his shoulder. That is the problem.
None of Sanders teamates went to his birthday party??? (If true, things are making sense.)

Imagine you are a billion dollar company; Is Sanders what you want to be the face of the franchise?
Companies are afraid of this.

[TerrenceClarke]

Even if the interviews were half as bad as they allegedly were… there’s being cautious because of “red flags” and then there’s “sending a message”. It sure seems like we are leaning towards the latter…

Sound bites, and clips are out there and they don’t sound great, but they are also very far from new. Someone suddenly being a top 10 pick and falling out of the top 100+ picks is a wild.

There are people facing cases with legitimate jail time that get picked before day 3 and they aren’t playing the most important position in football

Read on Twitter

McShay is well connected and if this is true, it’s definitely not a good look on his part.

Personally I hope he takes this moment and has a chip on his shoulder to make A LOT of coaches and front offices look bad

This is coming from the same dude who said the day before the draft that Schoen and he personnel crew liked or wanted to draft SS.

He all over the place.

Now all of sudden on the private visit SS is being so called rebellious to Daboll after SS building a relationship with the dude for months.

Who mentioned repeatedly that he enjoyed all his interactions with the Giants.

All he has been saying this Draft process is that he wants to LEARN and become Better. He kept saying he is not where he wants to be as a player.

But yeah…. He telling Daboll FOH over a “package” before he is even picked by them.

This is all BS.


This whole Draft process for months he has been smeared across the League. They wanted to make this dude out to be the bad guy and it worked.

I love how people just accept the word “ report” as being accurate.

That’s all you have to do to get people to believe something.

I noticed how little reports there were of a dude who is a rapist? Imagine that.

I never heard one “report” about that dude.

I can’t count the amount of “ reports” I heard about SS tho.

[MrDollarBills]

If McShay's account is accurate, it sounds like Shedeur didn't prepare for his interview with the Giants and he pissed Daboll off. There was a report back in January that he was facetiming his Dad during an interview with another team and two days ago there was a report from Tom Pelissero that another AFC team (i have a gut feeling that this is Pittsburgh) was echoing that the interview with Shedeur went really poorly. I love Deion, and i think Shedeur can definitely play in the NFL, but if these reports are even remotely true, I can absolutely understand why the Giants moved on. You can't tank an interview and expect someone to hire you.

From the perspective of Schoen and Daboll, two guys fighting for their jobs, they can't mess around with any of these picks. That being said, this is not an endorsement of trading up for Dart, who i am not sold on at all. I'm just saying, I wouldn't draft him either at #3 or trade up for him if he came to an interview unprepared. We've seen from Hard Knocks how Daboll tests QB prospects during interviews, it's no joke and you have to be on your A game.

I really want to know what happened with the other interviews that led to the other teams saying no thanks. The Giants I understand, if McShay's account is correct. Everyone else though? Steelers? Browns? Shedeur is not a day 3 talent. A literal rapist was picked over him ffs.

The truth will come out one way or another.

[KOA]

One assistant coach didn’t hold back, stating: "The worst formal interview I've ever been in in my life. He's so entitled. He takes unnecessary sacks. He never plays on time. He has horrible body language. He blames teammates. ... But the biggest thing is, he's not that good." That statement alone paints a picture of a player whose talent is being overshadowed by concerns about maturity and leadership.

Culture is important. Teams want their QBs to be captains, not cancers.

I can’t remember the last time a QB took as many sacks as Sanders in college and was actually successful in the NFL.

[DOT]

I really want to know what happened with the other interviews that led to the other teams saying no thanks.

Yeah, genuinely I don't get how bad an interview has to be for a 1st (well, late 1st to mid 2nd) round talent slides to day 3

I think the only thing that makes sense is he came in and tried to pull an Eli, telling teams to not draft him, and nobody had him high enough on their board to think calling his bluff was worth it

That or he's like, a cannibal or something.

[Ghetto Gospel]

Even if the interviews were half as bad as they allegedly were… there’s being cautious because of “red flags” and then there’s “sending a message”. It sure seems like we are leaning towards the latter…

Sound bites, and clips are out there and they don’t sound great, but they are also very far from new. Someone suddenly being a top 10 pick and falling out of the top 100+ picks is a wild.

There are people facing cases with legitimate jail time that get picked before day 3 and they aren’t playing the most important position in football

Read on Twitter

McShay is well connected and if this is true, it’s definitely not a good look on his part.

Personally I hope he takes this moment and has a chip on his shoulder to make A LOT of coaches and front offices look bad

in hindsight, all those reports that shedeur was in play at 2 or 3 were clearly false. maybe early on in the process but those that were near the draft were all fake news

[Ghetto Gospel]

i mean mike green got drafted in the 2nd and he has 2 cases on him

[MrDollarBills]

One assistant coach didn’t hold back, stating: "The worst formal interview I've ever been in in my life. He's so entitled. He takes unnecessary sacks. He never plays on time. He has horrible body language. He blames teammates. ... But the biggest thing is, he's not that good." That statement alone paints a picture of a player whose talent is being overshadowed by concerns about maturity and leadership.

Culture is important. Teams want their QBs to be captains, not cancers.

I can’t remember the last time a QB took as many sacks as Sanders in college and was actually successful in the NFL.

I disagree somewhat. To me, NFL Culture is overrated.

Teams will pay child abusers and rapists millions as long as they're talented and show up for work. We literally saw that last night.

But the difference is that QB is literally a position so critical that, if you get it wrong, you're gonna find yourself out of a job moreso than you would say drafting an OT who is dumb enough to record himself smoking weed or some EDGE who raped girls in high school and in college.

It's messed up but that's the reality. If what is being said about him tanking interviews is true, no GM or Coach is going to risk their jobs over it.

[MrDollarBills]

I really want to know what happened with the other interviews that led to the other teams saying no thanks.

Yeah, genuinely I don't get how bad an interview has to be for a 1st (well, late 1st to mid 2nd) round talent slides to day 3

I think the only thing that makes sense is he came in and tried to pull an Eli, telling teams to not draft him, and nobody had him high enough on their board to think calling his bluff was worth it

That or he's like, a cannibal or something.

I don't think NFL teams would draw a line at cannibalism if you're talented enough.

He's a Day 2 talent at worst. I really want to know exactly what happened for teams who are desperate for QB help to pass on him.

Now if Shedeur did go into the interview with the Giants unprepared, that's on him. But seeing an actual rapist get picked before him was so off putting i had to turn off the coverage.

[Ghetto Gospel]

One assistant coach didn’t hold back, stating: "The worst formal interview I've ever been in in my life. He's so entitled. He takes unnecessary sacks. He never plays on time. He has horrible body language. He blames teammates. ... But the biggest thing is, he's not that good." That statement alone paints a picture of a player whose talent is being overshadowed by concerns about maturity and leadership.

Culture is important. Teams want their QBs to be captains, not cancers.

I can’t remember the last time a QB took as many sacks as Sanders in college and was actually successful in the NFL.

I disagree somewhat. To me, NFL Culture is overrated.

Teams will pay child abusers and rapists millions as long as they're talented and show up for work. We literally saw that last night.

But the difference is that QB is literally a position so critical that, if you get it wrong, you're gonna find yourself out of a job moreso than you would say drafting an OT who is dumb enough to record himself smoking weed or some EDGE who raped girls in high school and in college.

It's messed up but that's the reality. If what is being said about him tanking interviews is true, no GM or Coach is going to risk their jobs over it.

this is true, you gotta have some evil on your team to win.

there's plenty of guys that fall in the draft every year cause they got cases but the teams that are picking them see a lot of success. just look at the eagles and chiefs and the characters on their team. the ravens just picked mike green, as long as your team has strong vets that can keep the locker room clean, it doesn't matter, it's all about winning

[MrDollarBills]

Even if the interviews were half as bad as they allegedly were… there’s being cautious because of “red flags” and then there’s “sending a message”. It sure seems like we are leaning towards the latter…

Sound bites, and clips are out there and they don’t sound great, but they are also very far from new. Someone suddenly being a top 10 pick and falling out of the top 100+ picks is a wild.

There are people facing cases with legitimate jail time that get picked before day 3 and they aren’t playing the most important position in football

Read on Twitter

McShay is well connected and if this is true, it’s definitely not a good look on his part.

Personally I hope he takes this moment and has a chip on his shoulder to make A LOT of coaches and front offices look bad

in hindsight, all those reports that shedeur was in play at 2 or 3 were clearly false. maybe early on in the process but those that were near the draft were all fake news

I think the interest from NYG was real. Maybe not at 3, but trading back into the first to get him i think was an option in play until it wasn't.

If he tanked his interview with Daboll by not reviewing the material and coming in unprepared, when there is literally recorded evidence that Daboll wants to test how you grasp his concepts, that's entirely on Shedeur.