Around the NBA - 2024-25 Season Continued Continued

[god shammgod]

the one time I root for Luka he is under the weather and throwing the ball away on every single possession. smh..

Randle destroying your lakers

luka was sick

[ezmoney707]

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15 game sample size from a win or go home standpoint is actually a pretty good measuring stick though (this coming from someone who didn’t hate Randle’s tenure here)

[3toheadmelo]

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Should've kept him. He is finally healthy. He's playing like how he did last year before he fked up his shoulder.

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so basically randle & kat are scoring the same amount of points in the playoffs

kat is shootng 58 percent on 2s which is better but ranlde is shooting 50 percent on 3s on slightly more volume compared to kat's 38

it's pretty much a wash so far

He's also averaging 5 APG, we miss his playmaking ability badly.

But we lost a lot of defense at the 5, a first round pick and DDV. Basically we were better off just keeping him and trading for a rim protecting C instead of giving up 2310823137 picks for Mikal.

[Guano]

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Should've kept him. He is finally healthy. He's playing like how he did last year before he fked up his shoulder.

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so basically randle & kat are scoring the same amount of points in the playoffs

kat is shootng 58 percent on 2s which is better but randle is shooting 50 percent on 3s on slightly more volume compared to kat's 38

it's pretty much a wash so far

Youre about to be bombarded with graphs and logarithms explaining why kat is better. Careful we walk amongst NERDS.

[3toheadmelo]

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15 game sample size from a win or go home standpoint is actually a pretty good measuring stick though (this coming from someone who didn’t hate Randle’s tenure here)

Not really if you look at it in context. He played on one ankle that needed surgery and he was being triple teamed against the hawks. We are seeing what he would've done for us last year.

[god shammgod]

at some point you're all gonna look back and admit that we made these trades and we didn't get any better. which has been my whole point since the summer. all our money and assets to move laterally.

[god shammgod]

Should've kept him. He is finally healthy. He's playing like how he did last year before he fked up his shoulder.

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so basically randle & kat are scoring the same amount of points in the playoffs

kat is shootng 58 percent on 2s which is better but randle is shooting 50 percent on 3s on slightly more volume compared to kat's 38

it's pretty much a wash so far

Youre about to be bombarded with graphs and logarithms explaining why kat is better. Careful we walk amongst NERDS.

that's like a dream melo had except those nerds were candy colored and edible

[3toheadmelo]

at some point you're all gonna look back and admit that we made these trades and we didn't get any better. which has been my whole point since the summer. all our money and assets to move laterally.

The knicks after we traded all of our assets for KAT and Mikal

[HEZI]

Looking at the Lakers team, who is their big man? They start Jaxson Hayes but only play him like 9 minutes.

Didn’t they back out of the Mark Williams trade? That must mean Dalton Knecht must be killing it right? Nope he’s not even in the rotation

[ezmoney707]

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15 game sample size from a win or go home standpoint is actually a pretty good measuring stick though (this coming from someone who didn’t hate Randle’s tenure here)

Not really if you look at it in context. He played on one ankle that needed surgery and he was being triple teamed against the hawks. We are seeing what he would've done for us last year.

But you’re dismissing his process and play style. He didn’t have the mindset that he had last year and this year in regards to slowing down, concentrating being offensive hub, making less reckless drives and passes etc throughout any of the playoff games he played.

So regardless of health or schemes against him he wasn’t a good playoff performer based on how went about the game.

It’s perfectly okay to criticize his playoff performances and also say Julius has been playing a better floor game the last two seasons.

[Gravy]

If we had JJ Reddick the entire fanbase would be destroying him rn for benching their beloved rookie Dalton Knecht while forcing 40 minutes of sick Luka. Knecht can actually play unlike our rookies.

The narratives we give people here are wild!

[3toheadmelo]

15 game sample size from a win or go home standpoint is actually a pretty good measuring stick though (this coming from someone who didn’t hate Randle’s tenure here)

Not really if you look at it in context. He played on one ankle that needed surgery and he was being triple teamed against the hawks. We are seeing what he would've done for us last year.

But you’re dismissing his process and play style. He didn’t have the mindset that he had last year and this year in regards to slowing down, concentrating being offensive hub, making less reckless drives and passes etc throughout any of the playoff games he played.

So regardless of health or schemes against him he wasn’t a good playoff performer based on how went about the game.

It’s perfectly okay to criticize his playoff performances and also say Julius has been playing a better floor game the last two seasons.

Where was he playing reckless last year? Right before his shoulder injury he was playing the best basketball of his career. It’s really not different than what he’s doing now.

To disregard he played on one ankle that needed surgery isn’t arguing in good faith.

[ezmoney707]

Not really if you look at it in context. He played on one ankle that needed surgery and he was being triple teamed against the hawks. We are seeing what he would've done for us last year.

But you’re dismissing his process and play style. He didn’t have the mindset that he had last year and this year in regards to slowing down, concentrating being offensive hub, making less reckless drives and passes etc throughout any of the playoff games he played.

So regardless of health or schemes against him he wasn’t a good playoff performer based on how went about the game.

It’s perfectly okay to criticize his playoff performances and also say Julius has been playing a better floor game the last two seasons.

Where was he playing reckless last year? Right before his shoulder injury he was playing the best basketball of his career. It’s really not different than what he’s doing now.

To disregard he played on one ankle that needed surgery isn’t arguing in good faith.

Fam please reread what I just wrote, like huh ? I acknowledge he played a different style of basketball the LAST TWO SEASONS (one not including any playoff basketball)

[3toheadmelo]

But you’re dismissing his process and play style. He didn’t have the mindset that he had last year and this year in regards to slowing down, concentrating being offensive hub, making less reckless drives and passes etc throughout any of the playoff games he played.

So regardless of health or schemes against him he wasn’t a good playoff performer based on how went about the game.

It’s perfectly okay to criticize his playoff performances and also say Julius has been playing a better floor game the last two seasons.

Where was he playing reckless last year? Right before his shoulder injury he was playing the best basketball of his career. It’s really not different than what he’s doing now.

To disregard he played on one ankle that needed surgery isn’t arguing in good faith.

Fam please reread what I just wrote, like huh ? I acknowledge he played a different style of basketball the LAST TWO SEASONS (one not including any playoff basketball)

My bad I misread it.

[kNicksGmen]

at some point you're all gonna look back and admit that we made these trades and we didn't get any better. which has been my whole point since the summer. all our money and assets to move laterally.

i don't disagree with this but that is more on the mikal trade than the Kat trade along with losing ihart. Divo and the pick were the assets given up for Kat which wasn't much - randle was a depressed asset and expiring contract.

the big part that is almost always downplayed/ignored by the "should have never traded randle" crew is that we lost I-hart for nothing. sure the knicks could have spent some assets to get kessler - but it wasn't going to be cheap (2-3 picks + Deuce? maybe they could get sexton also)

so the idea that the knicks would have been just as good without making either trade is blatantly false. I would however agree that if the entire team returned (ihart stayed) and was healthy - it was probably just as good as this year's team overall. ceiling is still lower imo but end result would likely be similar and they would have assets to flip Randle for a bigger fish than Kat - or just use the assets to improve on the margins.

i'm also a strong believer the coach isn't right for this roster - which is why i do think a kessler trade made more sense than bridges/kat. but until we see this roster with a new coach and another transaction cycle - the jury is still out.

[Guano]

the one time I root for Luka he is under the weather and throwing the ball away on every single possession. smh..

Randle destroying your lakers

luka was sick

Still cant believe you put your rep in the hands of a fat drunk European.

[The KnicksFix]

at some point you're all gonna look back and admit that we made these trades and we didn't get any better. which has been my whole point since the summer. all our money and assets to move laterally.

It’s all matchups tho Sham
If we Advance to the ECF does it make us better?
Or does a quality Knicks team just exist in a time when there’s a buzz saw in the East ?

[The KnicksFix]

at some point you're all gonna look back and admit that we made these trades and we didn't get any better. which has been my whole point since the summer. all our money and assets to move laterally.

i don't disagree with this but that is more on the mikal trade than the Kat trade along with losing ihart. Divo and the pick were the assets given up for Kat which wasn't much - randle was a depressed asset and expiring contract.

the big part that is almost always downplayed/ignored by the "should have never traded randle" crew is that we lost I-hart for nothing. sure the knicks could have spent some assets to get kessler - but it wasn't going to be cheap (2-3 picks + Deuce? maybe they could get sexton also)

so the idea that the knicks would have been just as good without making either trade is blatantly false. I would however agree that if the entire team returned (ihart stayed) and was healthy - it was probably just as good as this year's team overall. ceiling is still lower imo but end result would likely be similar and they would have assets to flip Randle for a bigger fish than Kat - or just use the assets to improve on the margins.

i'm also a strong believer the coach isn't right for this roster - which is why i do think a kessler trade made more sense than bridges/kat. but until we see this roster with a new coach and another transaction cycle - the jury is still out.

Still think the roster isn’t a good fit for the coach
It’s like giving him the keys to a Ferrari when he only knows to drive a minivan
As someone once posted on the board

[Chanel Bomber]

i don't agree but even if that was true, you're not winning anything with him as your best player either.

That's not was I was suggesting but the fact I got a serious reply from you and not even a cynical one shows how you fell for my trick. Has shammy entered his Olajuwon Raptors era?

maybe. i was trying to have a serious conversation with folks instead of just mocking them and got caught up. that's my bad.

It happens to the best and the worst of us

[Deeeez Knicks]

at some point you're all gonna look back and admit that we made these trades and we didn't get any better. which has been my whole point since the summer. all our money and assets to move laterally.

i don't disagree with this but that is more on the mikal trade than the Kat trade along with losing ihart. Divo and the pick were the assets given up for Kat which wasn't much - randle was a depressed asset and expiring contract.

the big part that is almost always downplayed/ignored by the "should have never traded randle" crew is that we lost I-hart for nothing. sure the knicks could have spent some assets to get kessler - but it wasn't going to be cheap (2-3 picks + Deuce? maybe they could get sexton also)

so the idea that the knicks would have been just as good without making either trade is blatantly false. I would however agree that if the entire team returned (ihart stayed) and was healthy - it was probably just as good as this year's team overall. ceiling is still lower imo but end result would likely be similar and they would have assets to flip Randle for a bigger fish than Kat - or just use the assets to improve on the margins.

i'm also a strong believer the coach isn't right for this roster - which is why i do think a kessler trade made more sense than bridges/kat. but until we see this roster with a new coach and another transaction cycle - the jury is still out.

Yea, if you take away Mitch and iHart from last years team we are pretty significantly worse. We could not keep last years team together, thus moves had to be made.

Mikal was an overpay, KAT looks like a really good trade. Still room to maneuver because we have mostly good players on tradeable deals all in there prime.