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Celts Can't Pull A Houdini! R1G3 Loss vs ORL 4/25 (BOS leads 2-1)

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Re: Celts Can't Pull A Houdini! R1G3 Loss vs ORL 4/25 (BOS leads 2-1) 

Post#101 » by brackdan70 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 1:15 pm

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bfchs123 wrote:KP was obviously terrible.


Magic fan here.

Four times this game Porziņģis got a switch where Magic-PG Joseph ended up guarding him. This resulted in only 1-4 shooting. How is this explained? Porziņģis has a foot of height over Joseph. I found it very odd Porziņģis didn't just dunk over Joseph all four times.

Normally he is very effective with those mismatches. Probably Joseph deserves some credit for hanging tough.
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Post#102 » by Fierce1 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 1:17 pm

Once the Cs start playing the Knicks a little over a week from now, SOFT will be forgotten.
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Re: Celts Can't Pull A Houdini! R1G3 Loss vs ORL 4/25 (BOS leads 2-1) 

Post#103 » by Riverwalk2021 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 2:50 pm

The playoffs is all about two way impact and our five best playoff players are the Jays, White, Jrue and Al. They make winning plays on both ends when it matters. When one aspect of their game isn’t on, they can still contribute in other ways. Guys like KP and Pritchard are fine in spots and certain matchups but we need our best 5 on the floor when it matters most. Let’s not even start on guys like Hauser and Kornet who have no business getting playoff run unless it’s a blowout. I feel like this team will go down this year if our best five aren’t consistently available in these playoffs.
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Re: Celts Can't Pull A Houdini! R1G3 Loss vs ORL 4/25 (BOS leads 2-1) 

Post#104 » by phincsfan » Sat Apr 26, 2025 3:09 pm

Second playoff game I've been to. I've been to the Kia center for a few concerts which were always a great time. I must say, the playoff atmosphere in this place absolutely stunk. You couldn't tell if they were down by 10 or up by 10.

I was at MSG, game 4 in 11'. I'm from NYC and I've been to a bunch of games and concerts there. Always a great time. IMO, Jimmy V Classic are the best time for basketball games at MSG.

I don't mind the loss one bit, I'm still shocked how weak the playoff atmosphere was in Orlando.

The game felt like a regular season game in October.

I will say, Jamal Mosley is a loud sob. I bet you can hear him anywhere you sit in that place.

Jrue was needed last night to settle things down in the 3rd. Whoever thinks PP can replace Jrue is :crazy:

I'm thinking about going tomorrow but I don't want to find out I'm a mush. :D
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Post#105 » by Fencer reregistered » Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:30 pm

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Bill Lumbergh wrote:I want either Craig or Baylor to take Hauser's minutes next game. He's had three games to get uncorked and has done absolutely nothing. Try somebody else.


Hauser needs ball movement to score, and if the C's can't improve their ball movement they're cooked anyway.


Baylor can self-create a bit more than Hauser can.

He's also a former football star, which might be thematically appropriate.

I still favor playing Sam, but I at least see an argument in the other direction.
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Post#106 » by redslastlaugh » Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:40 pm

Fencer reregistered wrote:Baylor can self-create a bit more than Hauser can.

I still favor playing Sam, but I at least see an argument in the other direction.


Seconded.

Also, we played 11 last yrs run, and JB/JT were healthier last year. We played our present 9 rotation players plus Brissett and Tillman situationally.
We need to have a little more lineups flexibility just generally. A long playoff run, almost every year, requires playing more than 9.

Scheierman also fills the playmaking gaps in a Jrue fashion way more than Sam, who I also like. And I know, the present Cs regime has a preference to not play rookies but come on. Semi Ojeleye played 13 min/gm that playoffs as a rook… plus Baylor is almost 25, so come on
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Post#107 » by Celts17Pride » Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:53 pm

Hauser can't contibute on offense and can't defend.
Craig limited offensely but can defend.

Choice is pretty easy.

Magic are a very bad matchup for creampuff Hauser because of their physicality.
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Re: Celts Can't Pull A Houdini! R1G3 Loss vs ORL 4/25 (BOS leads 2-1) 

Post#108 » by Bill Lumbergh » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:00 pm

cloverleaf wrote:
Bill Lumbergh wrote:I want either Craig or Baylor to take Hauser's minutes next game. He's had three games to get uncorked and has done absolutely nothing. Try somebody else.


Hauser needs ball movement to score, and if the C's can't improve their ball movement they're cooked anyway.


We'd all prefer a nice free flowing game where Sam (and the team) is getting lots of clean looks. The Magic have thus far prevented that style of play. Sam is mostly a one trick pony. They've taken away his trick, so he has objectively provided very little value out there. Zero points in his 35 minutes.

If the Magic continue to have success denying us our preferred style, rendering Sam basically useless, I would try somebody else, but people can disagree.
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Post#109 » by phincsfan » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:05 pm

Magic have done a great job taking the 3 away. They just can't shoot consistent enough. Sam and PP are struggling big time because their pushing them way off the 3 line.
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Post#110 » by redslastlaugh » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:10 pm

Bill Lumbergh wrote:We'd all prefer a nice free flowing game where Sam (and the team) is getting lots of clean looks. The Magic have thus far prevented that style of play. Sam is mostly a one trick pony. They've taken away his trick, so he has objectively provided very little value out there. Zero points in his 35 minutes.

True. You wonder if we could give him some picks or movement to free him up... because he hasn't scored but he's like 0-5 or something? 0-4 in the three games? Not a lot of attempts

One important thing in Sam's defense, is if he's standing in the corner and the Magic have decided to never leave him... just that fact creates spacing for JT to attack one-on-one even if Sam's not scoring.

Sam+JT is +38.2 net (tied for best on court pairing on the team) over the series...
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Post#111 » by Bill Lumbergh » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:20 pm

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Bill Lumbergh wrote:We'd all prefer a nice free flowing game where Sam (and the team) is getting lots of clean looks. The Magic have thus far prevented that style of play. Sam is mostly a one trick pony. They've taken away his trick, so he has objectively provided very little value out there. Zero points in his 35 minutes.

True. You wonder if we could give him some picks or movement to free him up... because he hasn't scored but he's like 0-5 or something? 0-4 in the three games? Not a lot of attempts

One important thing in Sam's defense, is if he's standing in the corner and the Magic have decided to never leave him... just that fact creates spacing for JT to attack one-on-one even if Sam's not scoring.

Sam+JT is +38.2 net (tied for best on court pairing on the team) over the series...

His gravity is definitely valuable, but enough to justify zero points in 35 minutes over 3 games? I guess we all have our opinions.
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Re: Celts Can't Pull A Houdini! R1G3 Loss vs ORL 4/25 (BOS leads 2-1) 

Post#112 » by Shak_Celts » Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:28 pm

We win a championship it’s not Joe, it’s all the talent, when we lose it’s bum Joe and not the talent. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!!
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Post#113 » by Fierce1 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 9:46 pm

Shak_Celts wrote:We win a championship it’s not Joe, it’s all the talent, when we lose it’s bum Joe and not the talent. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!!

I think it has nothing to do with basketball.

They just don't like the guy.

Celtics have been one of the top offenses and defenses under Joe, but some fans think it's all because of the talent.

Like I said, if it's just about talent then the Suns should be one of the top seeds in the west.
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Post#114 » by phincsfan » Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:28 am

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Shak_Celts wrote:We win a championship it’s not Joe, it’s all the talent, when we lose it’s bum Joe and not the talent. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!!

I think it has nothing to do with basketball.

They just don't like the guy.

Celtics have been one of the top offenses and defenses under Joe, but some fans think it's all because of the talent.

Like I said, if it's just about talent then the Suns should be one of the top seeds in the west.


If you believe that, would you be surprised if ownership would rather a coach the players like?

I’m gonna say this. If the C’s don’t make the ECF, I wouldn’t be surprised if the C’s fire Mazzulla. What direction they go, I haven’t a clue.
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Post#115 » by Fierce1 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:32 am

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Fierce1 wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:We win a championship it’s not Joe, it’s all the talent, when we lose it’s bum Joe and not the talent. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!!

I think it has nothing to do with basketball.

They just don't like the guy.

Celtics have been one of the top offenses and defenses under Joe, but some fans think it's all because of the talent.

Like I said, if it's just about talent then the Suns should be one of the top seeds in the west.


If you believe that, would you be surprised if ownership would rather a coach the players like?

I’m gonna say this. If the C’s don’t make the ECF, I wouldn’t be surprised if the C’s fire Mazzulla. What direction they go, I haven’t a clue.

As long as Brad is calling the shots, Joe will not get fired.

Joe is Brad's boy.
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Post#116 » by Fierce1 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:34 am

One loss and it's back to firing Joe again?

What are we doing here?
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Post#117 » by phincsfan » Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:41 am

Fierce1 wrote:One loss and it's back to firing Joe again?

What are we doing here?


I’m piggybacking on when you said they don’t like him. Fans pay to see the players play not to watch the coach coach.

I like Joe. I’ve been advocating that he use a deeper rotation so guys will be better prepared. That’s my main complaint.
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Post#118 » by Fierce1 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:48 am

phincsfan wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:One loss and it's back to firing Joe again?

What are we doing here?


I’m piggybacking on when you said they don’t like him. Fans pay to see the players play not to watch the coach coach.

I like Joe. I’ve been advocating that he use a deeper rotation so guys will be better prepared. That’s my main complaint.

We had a coach who's considered a genius and the players didn't want him.

In this day and age of NBA basketball, the players decide who coaches them.

I also want a deeper rotation, but apparently the Jays want to play heavy minutes.

Going deeper into the bench would mean less playing time for White, Jrue, and KP.

Those 3 starters are already sacrificing by getting less shot attempts.

So if you also lessen their minutes, they would surely complain.

The price to pay for having 2 star players and 3 all-star caliber players as your top 5.
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Post#119 » by phincsfan » Sun Apr 27, 2025 2:58 am

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phincsfan wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:One loss and it's back to firing Joe again?

What are we doing here?


I’m piggybacking on when you said they don’t like him. Fans pay to see the players play not to watch the coach coach.

I like Joe. I’ve been advocating that he use a deeper rotation so guys will be better prepared. That’s my main complaint.

We had a coach who's considered a genius and the players didn't want him.

In this day and age of NBA basketball, the players decide who coaches them.

I also want a deeper rotation, but apparently the Jays want to play heavy minutes.

Going deeper into the bench would mean less playing time for White, Jrue, and KP.

Those 3 starters are already sacrificing by getting less shot attempts.

So if you also lessen their minutes, they would surely complain.

The price to pay for having 2 star players and 3 all-star caliber players as your top 5.


White, Jrue and KP are pretty much maxxed out when it comes to contracts. KP may get one more mini deal. White is 35 when his is up and Jrue is done making money. White seems like a guy who doesn’t let anything bother him. It’s like he’s playing like he has house money.

IMO, they can sacrifice. That’s when they need to be told, “this may be for the betterment of the team”.
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Post#120 » by Tatumfor2 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 3:09 am

phincsfan wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:
phincsfan wrote:
I’m piggybacking on when you said they don’t like him. Fans pay to see the players play not to watch the coach coach.

I like Joe. I’ve been advocating that he use a deeper rotation so guys will be better prepared. That’s my main complaint.

We had a coach who's considered a genius and the players didn't want him.

In this day and age of NBA basketball, the players decide who coaches them.

I also want a deeper rotation, but apparently the Jays want to play heavy minutes.

Going deeper into the bench would mean less playing time for White, Jrue, and KP.

Those 3 starters are already sacrificing by getting less shot attempts.

So if you also lessen their minutes, they would surely complain.

The price to pay for having 2 star players and 3 all-star caliber players as your top 5.


White, Jrue and KP are pretty much maxxed out when it comes to contracts. KP may get one more mini deal. White is 35 when his is up and Jrue is done making money. White seems like a guy who doesn’t let anything bother him. It’s like he’s playing like he has house money.

IMO, they can sacrifice. That’s when they need to be told, “this may be for the betterment of the team”.



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