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2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26

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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#421 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:49 pm

Beenie wrote:If Dal moves up in the lotto, Mia losing their pick this year will truly be unforgivable

FO heads better roll


They won’t lol they’re protected because of the Wade era, that’s why they can be complacent year after year and half ass their jobs.
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Post#422 » by SerialChiller » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:51 pm

If we did a total rebuild and actually moved on from Spo, we could actually probably get a 1st round pick for him in a trade haha. Didn't Doc Rivers get traded for a 1st and J Kidd get traded for 2 second rounders as a coach?
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#423 » by jele » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:54 pm

We need to trade Pat Riley.
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Post#424 » by NightWatch » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:54 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:50 pts in the paint smh


Bam has been instructed to go mastered the ability of standing so incredibly still in the corner, so that he become invisible to the eye.
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#425 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:55 pm

Trade them all, fire them all, sell the team!!!!
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Post#426 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:56 pm

It might be both, but the question to answer this off-season is who goes first, Bam or Tyler?

I think Bam slots into a team easier, he’s healthier usually, and the fanbase has more time with him. But he currently makes more, he’s older, he’s likely closer to his ceiling as a player, and he probably returns more assets.

Tyler has been the one bright spot this season (besides Ware), he’s younger, might have a little potential left, and makes less currently. But he’s due a new contract soon, he’s arguably a little harder to build around as a player due to his defense, his trade value will probably never be higher, and he has been injury prone in the past.
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#427 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Sat Apr 26, 2025 7:59 pm

SerialChiller wrote:If we did a total rebuild and actually moved on from Spo, we could actually probably get a 1st round pick for him in a trade haha. Didn't Doc Rivers get traded for a 1st and J Kidd get traded for 2 second rounders as a coach?

Give up Spo and Riles and we’re basically just another Hawks/Hornets type of train wreck, we’re back to early 90’s expansion team status.
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#428 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:00 pm

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:It might be both, but the question to answer this off-season is who goes first, Bam or Tyler?

I think Bam slots into a team easier, he’s healthier usually, and the fanbase has more time with him. But he currently makes more, he’s older, he’s likely closer to his ceiling as a player, and he probably returns more assets.

Tyler has been the one bright spot this season (besides Ware), he’s younger, might have a little potential left, and makes less currently. But he’s due a new contract soon, he’s arguably a little harder to build around as a player due to his defense, his trade value will probably never be higher, and he has been injury prone in the past.


Trade both but if it’s one or the other you keep the better and more well rounded player who anchors a top 10 defense every year over the guy who is hunted defensively non stop and unable to provide much offense when the playoffs come around. And yes he’ll be wanting that $50M per year
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#429 » by RRR3 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:00 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:Thats the beauty of owning next year's pick. Now, the full rebuild can begin.


These idiots are going to scratch and claw their way to the play in and bottom seed of the playoffs again though is the problem

Yeah if they couldn't be bothered to go for it with this apparently stacked draft why would they next year? Perpetual play-in team.
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Post#430 » by insfo » Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:03 pm

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:It might be both, but the question to answer this off-season is who goes first, Bam or Tyler?

I think Bam slots into a team easier, he’s healthier usually, and the fanbase has more time with him. But he currently makes more, he’s older, he’s likely closer to his ceiling as a player, and he probably returns more assets.

Tyler has been the one bright spot this season (besides Ware), he’s younger, might have a little potential left, and makes less currently. But he’s due a new contract soon, he’s arguably a little harder to build around as a player due to his defense, his trade value will probably never be higher, and he has been injury prone in the past.


Trade the one that gets you more first. If teams realize that there is a fire sale on, the low ball offers will start.
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#431 » by Beenie » Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:04 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:
Beenie wrote:If Dal moves up in the lotto, Mia losing their pick this year will truly be unforgivable

FO heads better roll

Or what?


Or a portion of the fanbase will restlessly and boisterously be calling for change, me included
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#432 » by wade44 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:07 pm

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Tim_Hardawayy wrote:It might be both, but the question to answer this off-season is who goes first, Bam or Tyler?

I think Bam slots into a team easier, he’s healthier usually, and the fanbase has more time with him. But he currently makes more, he’s older, he’s likely closer to his ceiling as a player, and he probably returns more assets.

Tyler has been the one bright spot this season (besides Ware), he’s younger, might have a little potential left, and makes less currently. But he’s due a new contract soon, he’s arguably a little harder to build around as a player due to his defense, his trade value will probably never be higher, and he has been injury prone in the past.


Trade the one that gets you more first. If teams realize that there is a fire sale on, the low ball offers will start.


Tyler is worth way more to us than he is on the open market. Don’t see another team giving up much of value for him. Bam on the other hand..
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#433 » by Kobewade11 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:13 pm

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Kobewade11 wrote:
Beenie wrote:If Dal moves up in the lotto, Mia losing their pick this year will truly be unforgivable

FO heads better roll

Or what?


Or a portion of the fanbase will restlessly and boisterously be calling for change, me included

In the eyes of the Arisons I think money talks louder than internet rants
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#434 » by EMC5466 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:13 pm

The current front office and coaching staff has run its course. It’s time for newer and younger blood.
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#435 » by Heat3 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:14 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:Thats the beauty of owning next year's pick. Now, the full rebuild can begin.


These idiots are going to scratch and claw their way to the play in and bottom seed of the playoffs again though is the problem

Yeah if they couldn't be bothered to go for it with this apparently stacked draft why would they next year? Perpetual play-in team.


Prime opportunity to get 2 draft picks this year when the team was bad on its own. Then be better next year to give a mediocre pick away. Instead heat end up with a mediocre pick this year and likely another next year. Cause they aren't going to tank. Even worse its another year away so another year wasted.

Only hope is a star wants out and heat can trade for them. No one should be untouchable.

Bam and picks for Giannis if he wants out (I doubt he will) and I'd do it in a second. Bucks would probably still get a lot more from others.
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#436 » by Beenie » Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:18 pm

Kobewade11 wrote:
Beenie wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:Or what?


Or a portion of the fanbase will restlessly and boisterously be calling for change, me included

In the eyes of the Arisons I think money talks louder than internet rants


Is that the real reason why you don’t approve?

Otherwise you’d be inclined to join in on the collective internet ranting?
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Post#437 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:18 pm

Heat3 wrote:
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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
These idiots are going to scratch and claw their way to the play in and bottom seed of the playoffs again though is the problem

Yeah if they couldn't be bothered to go for it with this apparently stacked draft why would they next year? Perpetual play-in team.


Prime opportunity to get 2 draft picks this year when the team was bad on its own. Then be better next year to give a mediocre pick away. Instead heat end up with a mediocre pick this year and likely another next year. Cause they aren't going to tank. Even worse its another year away so another year wasted.

Only hope is a star wants out and heat can trade for them. No one should be untouchable.

Bam and picks for Giannis if he wants out (I doubt he will) and I'd do it in a second. Bucks would probably still get a lot more from others.


If they’re bounced in the 1st round I actually think Giannis is on his way out. They have no avenues to improve
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#438 » by powerball1373 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:21 pm

Phew, glad I didn't set an alarm to wake up at 7am for this bochit.
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#439 » by Kobewade11 » Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:22 pm

Beenie wrote:
Kobewade11 wrote:
Beenie wrote:
Or a portion of the fanbase will restlessly and boisterously be calling for change, me included

In the eyes of the Arisons I think money talks louder than internet rants


Is that the real reason why you don’t approve?

Otherwise you’d be inclined to join in on the collective internet ranting?

Huh? Lol. Me having a fit on the internet has no impact on what the decision makers decide to do. Sure I could do it but it would ultimately be a waste of energy.
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Re: 2025 Playoffs: Round 1, Game 3: Cleveland @ Miami - 1pm EST on 4/26 

Post#440 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Sat Apr 26, 2025 8:26 pm

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Tim_Hardawayy wrote:It might be both, but the question to answer this off-season is who goes first, Bam or Tyler?

I think Bam slots into a team easier, he’s healthier usually, and the fanbase has more time with him. But he currently makes more, he’s older, he’s likely closer to his ceiling as a player, and he probably returns more assets.

Tyler has been the one bright spot this season (besides Ware), he’s younger, might have a little potential left, and makes less currently. But he’s due a new contract soon, he’s arguably a little harder to build around as a player due to his defense, his trade value will probably never be higher, and he has been injury prone in the past.


Trade the one that gets you more first. If teams realize that there is a fire sale on, the low ball offers will start.


Tyler is worth way more to us than he is on the open market. Don’t see another team giving up much of value for him. Bam on the other hand..

Its tricky though because while I agree, Tyler is also probably at his peak trade value unless he makes another huge leap as a player next year.

Btw, while I agree it sucks to be paying guys who aren't #1 options the max, that's the reality of the current NBA. Even for a contender, most are paying at least one or two other guys who aren't true #1 guys, the max, because anyone who is deemed a perennial star in the league gets the max or close to it. The reality is Bam or Tyler being paid what they are, on a roster that also has a Luka Doncic, or Giannis, or SGA, is considered fine value and nobody is complaining about it.

Not to say its not an issue currently, but its always going to come up with players that are good, but not championship #1 option good.

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