2025 nfl draft thread

[clyde21]

Am I the only one impressed by Martin racking up 140 tackles, 6 SACKS, 2 picks in 14 games as a redshirt sophomore? He's nearly identical to Greenlaw in physical measurements and had a similar play style. Other than the chances of getting him later in the draft, what's not to like?

it's pretty obvious he's the Greenlaw replacement but the draft position is the rub, Greenlaw himself was drafted in the 5th. these guys just typically don't go as high as the third.

I'm not super caught up on draft value these days but are we saying inside lbs that can tackle, blitz, and cover aren't with 3rd round picks? If he's greenlaw for the next 4-5 years, it's a great pick and, personally, I will not care if he was 3rd, 4th, or 5th round.

I believe greenlaw was projected as "an immediate contributor on special teams", hence his 5th round slot. If it was "projects as an all-pro in 3 years", i think he would have gone higher

yes, if he reaches his ceiling and he's the next Greenlaw no one will complain about the pick, but you can say that about everyone else we could've drafted at that point so that's not really an argument.

the Rams just drafted a similar player in Chris Paul Jr at the end of the 5th, same round Eagles got athletic freak from Georgia at LB in Smael Mondon, Cowboys in the 5th took another LB with a similar profile to Martin in Shemar Jones. no legitimate argument can be made that Nick Martin is a whole two rounds ahead of these guys, I'm sorry.

the FO just displaying the same level of hubris when they drafted a **** kicker in the third, but at least Martin is not gonna be a bust like Moody is hopefully.

[Jikkle]

Not taking OL with a decent pick is a wart on a draft that at least on paper looks pretty good.

The fact that it doesn't feel like we really wasted a pick and nearly all our picks have been towards addressing major holes and weaknesses on defense I can forgive it somewhat.

Crazy to think that there is a scenario where the starting defense lineup could have 7 to 8 players with under two years and under experience as starters or major contributors.

Really feels like they are gearing up for another serious run at a SB in 2026.

[RIPskaterdude]

Rams got a good one with Chris Paul Jr

[Pattersonca65]

Not taking OL with a decent pick is a wart on a draft that at least on paper looks pretty good.

The fact that it doesn't feel like we really wasted a pick and nearly all our picks have been towards addressing major holes and weaknesses on defense I can forgive it somewhat.

Crazy to think that there is a scenario where the starting defense lineup could have 7 to 8 players with under two years and under experience as starters or major contributors.

Really feels like they are gearing up for another serious run at a SB in 2026.

Shanahan must really feel he has good olineman.

[clyde21]

Not taking OL with a decent pick is a wart on a draft that at least on paper looks pretty good.

The fact that it doesn't feel like we really wasted a pick and nearly all our picks have been towards addressing major holes and weaknesses on defense I can forgive it somewhat.

Crazy to think that there is a scenario where the starting defense lineup could have 7 to 8 players with under two years and under experience as starters or major contributors.

Really feels like they are gearing up for another serious run at a SB in 2026.

yea, can't fault the team for wanting to lock in defense, how soft we looked like year probably pissed them off just as much as it did us.

[clyde21]

the QBs are coming off here in the 6th, even got a kicker

[vvoland]

it's pretty obvious he's the Greenlaw replacement but the draft position is the rub, Greenlaw himself was drafted in the 5th. these guys just typically don't go as high as the third.

I'm not super caught up on draft value these days but are we saying inside lbs that can tackle, blitz, and cover aren't with 3rd round picks? If he's greenlaw for the next 4-5 years, it's a great pick and, personally, I will not care if he was 3rd, 4th, or 5th round.

I believe greenlaw was projected as "an immediate contributor on special teams", hence his 5th round slot. If it was "projects as an all-pro in 3 years", i think he would have gone higher

yes, if he reaches his ceiling and he's the next Greenlaw no one will complain about the pick, but you can say that about everyone else we could've drafted at that point so that's not really an argument.

the Rams just drafted a similar player in Chris Paul Jr at the end of the 5th, same round Eagles got athletic freak from Georgia at LB in Smael Mondon, Cowboys in the 5th took another LB with a similar profile to Martin in Shemar Jones. no legitimate argument can be made that Nick Martin is a whole two rounds ahead of these guys, I'm sorry.

the FO just displaying the same level of hubris when they drafted a **** kicker in the third, but at least Martin is not gonna be a bust like Moody is hopefully.

That's not the argument I was making. I'm simply saying if the reason all those guys got drafted in the 5th was because of positional value, not production/talent, I don't necessarily agree with the logic.

[clyde21]

OT Chase Lundt off the board, another tackle prospect that would've intriguing for us

[CrimsonCrew]

York been giving intel and tweeting crap like this all draft, so we're taking another safety here?

Read on Twitter

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Jed is such a tool.

[CrimsonCrew]

Am I the only one impressed by Martin racking up 140 tackles, 6 SACKS, 2 picks in 14 games as a redshirt sophomore? He's nearly identical to Greenlaw in physical measurements and had a similar play style. Other than the chances of getting him later in the draft, what's not to like?

it's pretty obvious he's the Greenlaw replacement but the draft position is the rub, Greenlaw himself was drafted in the 5th. these guys just typically don't go as high as the third.

I'm not super caught up on draft value these days but are we saying inside lbs that can tackle, blitz, and cover aren't with 3rd round picks? If he's greenlaw for the next 4-5 years, it's a great pick and, personally, I will not care if he was 3rd, 4th, or 5th round.

I believe greenlaw was projected as "an immediate contributor on special teams", hence his 5th round slot. If it was "projects as an all-pro in 3 years", i think he would have gone higher

Typically LBs who are under 6', under 225, and coming off an injury don't go in the third. Fine with the player. Probably took him two rounds early based on where similar prospects went.

[vvoland]

OT Chase Lundt off the board, another tackle prospect that would've intriguing for us

I'm guessing we'll bring in at least 2 OL in the 7th and UDFA but I wonder if there's more confidence in the front office that zakelj, burford, and Nugent can provide competition/cover. I think we need 2 starters (C and G) but Kyle clearly does not.

[clyde21]

im honestly shocked both Logan Brown and Damien Martinez are still on the board, if we somehow manage to get both in the 7th, it'd be a huge coup.

[vvoland]

it's pretty obvious he's the Greenlaw replacement but the draft position is the rub, Greenlaw himself was drafted in the 5th. these guys just typically don't go as high as the third.

I'm not super caught up on draft value these days but are we saying inside lbs that can tackle, blitz, and cover aren't with 3rd round picks? If he's greenlaw for the next 4-5 years, it's a great pick and, personally, I will not care if he was 3rd, 4th, or 5th round.

I believe greenlaw was projected as "an immediate contributor on special teams", hence his 5th round slot. If it was "projects as an all-pro in 3 years", i think he would have gone higher

Typically LBs who are under 6', under 225, and coming off an injury don't go in the third. Fine with the player. Probably took him two rounds early based on where similar prospects went.

Totally get that. Im just really impressed with the numbers; 140/6/2 is pretty good in just 14 games. Seems like he got hurt early enough to be healthy by the combine/pro day so hope he'll come in ready.

ESPN had him as 6', 221 so he's not really "small." Seems like he'll be able to feast with the 900+ lbs we drafted ahead of him to add to bosa. Wouldn't be surprised if we use him outside in the F1 package considering his pressure rate in his standout season. If he can cover as well as his int numbers suggest, I love this pick. Could we have gotten him in the 4th? probably. I'm just not sure that's the important variable here

[clyde21]

I'm not super caught up on draft value these days but are we saying inside lbs that can tackle, blitz, and cover aren't with 3rd round picks? If he's greenlaw for the next 4-5 years, it's a great pick and, personally, I will not care if he was 3rd, 4th, or 5th round.

I believe greenlaw was projected as "an immediate contributor on special teams", hence his 5th round slot. If it was "projects as an all-pro in 3 years", i think he would have gone higher

Typically LBs who are under 6', under 225, and coming off an injury don't go in the third. Fine with the player. Probably took him two rounds early based on where similar prospects went.

Totally get that. Im just really impressed with the numbers; 140/6/2 is pretty good in just 14 games. Seems like he got hurt early enough to be healthy by the combine/pro day so hope he'll come in ready.

ESPN had him as 6', 221 so he's not really "small." Seems like he'll be able to feast with the 900+ lbs we drafted ahead of him to add to bosa. Wouldn't be surprised if we use him outside in the F1 package considering his pressure rate in his standout season. If he can cover as well as his int numbers suggest, I love this pick. Could we have gotten him in the 4th? probably. I'm just not sure that's the important variable here

raw numbers are good but Oklahoma St had one of *the* worst defenses in all college football, lotta of fat there.

again, no one is against the player, but you have to manage draft assets better.

[clyde21]

Damien Martinez to Seattle, they are killing this draft

[CrimsonCrew]

Hard to get upset about a late round flyer at QB, but how do we pass on Logan Brown? Are we not drafting any OL??? Why sign Purdy to a big contract if we not even going to try to protect him?

[clyde21]

We took a 24 year old QB before we took an OL

[clyde21]

Hard to get upset about a late round flyer at QB, but how do we pass on Logan Brown? Are we not drafting any OL??? Why sign Purdy to a big contract if we not even going to try to protect him?

i am assuming we have a bunch of hand shake agreements with a bunch of OL we're bringing in as FAs, that's the only explanation. Esa Pole might be one.

[vvoland]

Typically LBs who are under 6', under 225, and coming off an injury don't go in the third. Fine with the player. Probably took him two rounds early based on where similar prospects went.

Totally get that. Im just really impressed with the numbers; 140/6/2 is pretty good in just 14 games. Seems like he got hurt early enough to be healthy by the combine/pro day so hope he'll come in ready.

ESPN had him as 6', 221 so he's not really "small." Seems like he'll be able to feast with the 900+ lbs we drafted ahead of him to add to bosa. Wouldn't be surprised if we use him outside in the F1 package considering his pressure rate in his standout season. If he can cover as well as his int numbers suggest, I love this pick. Could we have gotten him in the 4th? probably. I'm just not sure that's the important variable here

raw numbers are good but Oklahoma St had one of *the* worst defenses in all college football, lotta of fat there.

again, no one is against the player, but you have to manage draft assets better.

Appreciate the context, I don't watch college hence the heavy reference to the raw numbers. From what I hear, the underlying metrics are just as impressive but we'll see on the field soon enough.

I agree with you on the asset management. Just wonder if he was one of their "gold helmet" guys and was always doing to be drafted there. Perhaps, just like Williams, we almost traded up for him.

If it's true that they changed their draft strategy before last year, now Kyle and Lynch don't get their own picks and it's all consensus, I'm particularly hopeful about these first 5 defensive picks.

[vvoland]

Hard to get upset about a late round flyer at QB, but how do we pass on Logan Brown? Are we not drafting any OL??? Why sign Purdy to a big contract if we not even going to try to protect him?

i am assuming we have a bunch of hand shake agreements with a bunch of OL we're bringing in as FAs, that's the only explanation. Esa Pole might be one.

That and Kyle's weird level of confidence in people like mckivitz, barch, and brendel. Maybe some of our PS linemen, who knows.

No clue about this QB but he played all of last year on a torn ACL? That's allowed?