2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West First Round: #2 Houston Rockets vs #7 Golden State Warriors (GSW leads 3-1)

[shi-woo]

This thread is trash man...so much hate for the Rockets, didn't know they were in peoples heads like that.

First off, Steph really is a GOAT, the guy needs the entire team defending him, and he always makes the right read. The execution in the 4 quarter by him and green was absurd. His ability to play off ball is almost unfair, and what separates him from any other star i've ever watched.

Steph was the show tonight but everyone else on the team outside of Kuminga played well. GP2 is incredible on defense and hit some amazing shots. Hield did his best Klay impression, and Post gave them solid minutes. I liked the fire he played with tonight, he wasn't scared even if he was trying to hard at times, but I knew Kerr was feeling it because he didn't take him out when he heat checked a 3

Green, for all the hate we give him, has an incredible bball iq on BOTH sides of the ball. He's a basketball savant really, and it showed this game on both ends. Dude was just the connector on every play it seemed.

HOU shouldn't be getting the flack yall are giving them. They are young, this board does it every year, over hyping young teams that over acheive, and then get upset when a vet team with better players wins.

I get not liking the young guys, but literally no one on this team can shoot...Brooks is their best shooter, and he's been known to be a bad shooter for most of his career. We won't know how good any of these guys really are on that end until we see them play with actual NBA space. Rockets got swarmed tonight, and Amen was dared to shoot even ft line jumpers...So how can we expect Green and Sengun to excel in that sort of environment?

I still don't know what to make of Green though. He is fluid with the ball, and clearly has skills. Sometimes when you squint you can see Ant on offense. This guy just always seems like he's one braincell clicking in his head correctly to finally getting it, but idk. He could ultimately just be a guy that would excel as a 6th man type like Simons, Sexton, Clarkson, Poole, ect.

To me, he's the one that has to go if trades and moves are to be made.

Sengun/Jabari/Amen/Reed that's my coor, and i'm looking for a legit guard that can carry an offense. Fred has overstayed his welcome, and is just holding dudes back at this point.

[Tracymcgoaty]

When on earth have you seen Vanderbilt handle the ball? It's trolling to act like they have the same skillset.

My bad he's vando that can handle the ball a bit.

They're both unplayable on offense.

He's not unplayable he's prime Ben Simmons playing with negative spacing. Maybe if they actually got players that fit around him he'd function as intended.

I doubt amen has the playmaking of prime Simmons. He's ridiculously athletic and can handle the ball. He has no idea of what he's doing on offense.

If he doesn't develop his offensive game he'll be a 15-20 minute player.

[multo]

Vanvleet told Draymond in game 2 they better pray Butler plays yet they did not take the opportunity to steal this game.

[RRR3]

My bad he's vando that can handle the ball a bit.

They're both unplayable on offense.

He's not unplayable he's prime Ben Simmons playing with negative spacing. Maybe if they actually got players that fit around him he'd function as intended.

I doubt amen has the playmaking of prime Simmons. He's ridiculously athletic and can handle the ball. He has no idea of what he's doing on offense.

If he doesn't develop his offensive game he'll be a 15-20 minute player.

You're gonna look really dumb calling him Vanderbilt in the future, just saying. Maybe stop overreacting to single games or series so much?

[durden_tyler]

This thread is trash man...so much hate for the Rockets, didn't know they were in peoples heads like that.

First off, Steph really is a GOAT, the guy needs the entire team defending him, and he always makes the right read. The execution in the 4 quarter by him and green was absurd. His ability to play off ball is almost unfair, and what separates him from any other star i've ever watched.

Steph was the show tonight but everyone else on the team outside of Kuminga played well. GP2 is incredible on defense and hit some amazing shots. Hield did his best Klay impression, and Post gave them solid minutes. I liked the fire he played with tonight, he wasn't scared even if he was trying to hard at times, but I knew Kerr was feeling it because he didn't take him out when he heat checked a 3

Green, for all the hate we give him, has an incredible bball iq on BOTH sides of the ball. He's a basketball savant really, and it showed this game on both ends. Dude was just the connector on every play it seemed.

HOU shouldn't be getting the flack yall are giving them. They are young, this board does it every year, over hyping young teams that over acheive, and then get upset when a vet team with better players wins.

I get not liking the young guys, but literally no one on this team can shoot...Brooks is their best shooter, and he's been known to be a bad shooter for most of his career. We won't know how good any of these guys really are on that end until we see them play with actual NBA space. Rockets got swarmed tonight, and Amen was dared to shoot even ft line jumpers...So how can we expect Green and Sengun to excel in that sort of environment?

I still don't know what to make of Green though. He is fluid with the ball, and clearly has skills. Sometimes when you squint you can see Ant on offense. This guy just always seems like he's one braincell clicking in his head correctly to finally getting it, but idk. He could ultimately just be a guy that would excel as a 6th man type like Simons, Sexton, Clarkson, Poole, ect.

To me, he's the one that has to go if trades and moves are to be made.

Sengun/Jabari/Amen/Reed that's my coor, and i'm looking for a legit guard that can carry an offense. Fred has overstayed his welcome, and is just holding dudes back at this point.

Most Rockets fans thought they’d easily dominate the series before falling in Game 1. Then after winning Game 2, when Jimmy was hurt, they acted that the series is over already.

Reality bites after this sorry G3 effort.


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[Tracymcgoaty]

This thread is trash man...so much hate for the Rockets, didn't know they were in peoples heads like that.

First off, Steph really is a GOAT, the guy needs the entire team defending him, and he always makes the right read. The execution in the 4 quarter by him and green was absurd. His ability to play off ball is almost unfair, and what separates him from any other star i've ever watched.

Steph was the show tonight but everyone else on the team outside of Kuminga played well. GP2 is incredible on defense and hit some amazing shots. Hield did his best Klay impression, and Post gave them solid minutes. I liked the fire he played with tonight, he wasn't scared even if he was trying to hard at times, but I knew Kerr was feeling it because he didn't take him out when he heat checked a 3

Green, for all the hate we give him, has an incredible bball iq on BOTH sides of the ball. He's a basketball savant really, and it showed this game on both ends. Dude was just the connector on every play it seemed.

HOU shouldn't be getting the flack yall are giving them. They are young, this board does it every year, over hyping young teams that over acheive, and then get upset when a vet team with better players wins.

I get not liking the young guys, but literally no one on this team can shoot...Brooks is their best shooter, and he's been known to be a bad shooter for most of his career. We won't know how good any of these guys really are on that end until we see them play with actual NBA space. Rockets got swarmed tonight, and Amen was dared to shoot even ft line jumpers...So how can we expect Green and Sengun to excel in that sort of environment?

I still don't know what to make of Green though. He is fluid with the ball, and clearly has skills. Sometimes when you squint you can see Ant on offense. This guy just always seems like he's one braincell clicking in his head correctly to finally getting it, but idk. He could ultimately just be a guy that would excel as a 6th man type like Simons, Sexton, Clarkson, Poole, ect.

To me, he's the one that has to go if trades and moves are to be made.

Sengun/Jabari/Amen/Reed that's my coor, and i'm looking for a legit guard that can carry an offense. Fred has overstayed his welcome, and is just holding dudes back at this point.

Dude we've seen Green brick wide open jumpers this series. He's not even close on his shots. His decision making is horrendous for a guy in his 4th year. Where is his development?

There shouldn't be a single dude on that Houston team that is untouchable. They have no top end talent. If im banking on Amen to take huge steps in becoming that guy i'd say thats a huge bet i'd go against.

He has zero offense. He's all athleticism. He's unplayable in the playoffs. Lucky for houston he's very young but it'll still require huge steps in development to fix someone who is that raw on offense.

They have the worst offense i've ever seen in a 2nd seed. It hurts to watch.

[Tracymcgoaty]

He's not unplayable he's prime Ben Simmons playing with negative spacing. Maybe if they actually got players that fit around him he'd function as intended.

I doubt amen has the playmaking of prime Simmons. He's ridiculously athletic and can handle the ball. He has no idea of what he's doing on offense.

If he doesn't develop his offensive game he'll be a 15-20 minute player.

You're gonna look really dumb calling him Vanderbilt in the future, just saying. Maybe stop overreacting to single games or series so much?

I dont give a crap im some dude writing comments in real gm I dont take my comments as weight in gold.

But thats what i see when i watch him play. More athletic vanderbilt who has zero offense. He's unplayable on that end.

Oh sure if i construct a team around each and every bit of his needs he'll probably look more capable. Or the alternative could be he actually gets better on offense period. He's 22 he has plenty of time.

But i see Vanderbilt on offense when i watch him play.

[shi-woo]

My bad he's vando that can handle the ball a bit.

They're both unplayable on offense.

He's not unplayable he's prime Ben Simmons playing with negative spacing. Maybe if they actually got players that fit around him he'd function as intended.

I doubt amen has the playmaking of prime Simmons. He's ridiculously athletic and can handle the ball. He has no idea of what he's doing on offense.

If he doesn't develop his offensive game he'll be a 15-20 minute player.

At worst he'll be Aaron Gordon, and that's the type of role he needs to be playing on offense.

It took a while, but AG finally put it all together, focused on his strengths while working on his shooting, and by his prime is now a 3 level threat that is the post boy for playing out of the dunkers spot and off of cuts in the NBA. Amen should learn from Aaron on offense, while being better defensively because of his speed and ability to guard pgs

[Scottie15]

Green was yelling staring at other player there, should be 2nd tech

NBA is rigged

Cry more.

[Tracymcgoaty]

He's not unplayable he's prime Ben Simmons playing with negative spacing. Maybe if they actually got players that fit around him he'd function as intended.

I doubt amen has the playmaking of prime Simmons. He's ridiculously athletic and can handle the ball. He has no idea of what he's doing on offense.

If he doesn't develop his offensive game he'll be a 15-20 minute player.

At worst he'll be Aaron Gordon, and that's the type of role he needs to be playing on offense.

It took a while, but AG finally put it all together, focused on his strengths while working on his shooting, and by his prime is now a 3 level threat that is the post boy for playing out of the dunkers spot and off of cuts in the NBA. Amen should learn from Aaron on offense, while being better defensively because of his speed and ability to guard pgs

Thats a good comp actually. Gordon would probably be his ceiling on offense. But i dont remember if gordon was this raw on offense coming into the league.

Amen has zero offensive game. It's painfully noticeable in the playoffs. He really should train midrangers given that defenders give him all the space.

[Fadeaway_Jumper]

This thread is trash man...so much hate for the Rockets, didn't know they were in peoples heads like that.

First off, Steph really is a GOAT, the guy needs the entire team defending him, and he always makes the right read. The execution in the 4 quarter by him and green was absurd. His ability to play off ball is almost unfair, and what separates him from any other star i've ever watched.

Steph was the show tonight but everyone else on the team outside of Kuminga played well. GP2 is incredible on defense and hit some amazing shots. Hield did his best Klay impression, and Post gave them solid minutes. I liked the fire he played with tonight, he wasn't scared even if he was trying to hard at times, but I knew Kerr was feeling it because he didn't take him out when he heat checked a 3

Green, for all the hate we give him, has an incredible bball iq on BOTH sides of the ball. He's a basketball savant really, and it showed this game on both ends. Dude was just the connector on every play it seemed.

HOU shouldn't be getting the flack yall are giving them. They are young, this board does it every year, over hyping young teams that over acheive, and then get upset when a vet team with better players wins.

I get not liking the young guys, but literally no one on this team can shoot...Brooks is their best shooter, and he's been known to be a bad shooter for most of his career. We won't know how good any of these guys really are on that end until we see them play with actual NBA space. Rockets got swarmed tonight, and Amen was dared to shoot even ft line jumpers...So how can we expect Green and Sengun to excel in that sort of environment?

I still don't know what to make of Green though. He is fluid with the ball, and clearly has skills. Sometimes when you squint you can see Ant on offense. This guy just always seems like he's one braincell clicking in his head correctly to finally getting it, but idk. He could ultimately just be a guy that would excel as a 6th man type like Simons, Sexton, Clarkson, Poole, ect.

To me, he's the one that has to go if trades and moves are to be made.

Sengun/Jabari/Amen/Reed that's my coor, and i'm looking for a legit guard that can carry an offense. Fred has overstayed his welcome, and is just holding dudes back at this point.

Haha at the bolded

Good summary, I agree with the take on Fred though. He tried to drive in the paint on Curry, and got swatted by him. Curry is not a defender either.

Steph Curry is really something else though. The plays he was making to lead the warriors to a win with no Jimmy butler was amazing to watch.

[Revived]

He's not unplayable he's prime Ben Simmons playing with negative spacing. Maybe if they actually got players that fit around him he'd function as intended.

I doubt amen has the playmaking of prime Simmons. He's ridiculously athletic and can handle the ball. He has no idea of what he's doing on offense.

If he doesn't develop his offensive game he'll be a 15-20 minute player.

At worst he'll be Aaron Gordon, and that's the type of role he needs to be playing on offense.

It took a while, but AG finally put it all together, focused on his strengths while working on his shooting, and by his prime is now a 3 level threat that is the post boy for playing out of the dunkers spot and off of cuts in the NBA. Amen should learn from Aaron on offense, while being better defensively because of his speed and ability to guard pgs

At worst he’ll be Aaron Gordon? Are you kidding?

Dude at worst he’ll be Mattise Thybulle/Josh Jackson. The latter of who’s not even in the league anymore but there are actually lot of similarities between their skill sets.

[AmIWrongDude]

This thread is trash man...so much hate for the Rockets, didn't know they were in peoples heads like that.

First off, Steph really is a GOAT, the guy needs the entire team defending him, and he always makes the right read. The execution in the 4 quarter by him and green was absurd. His ability to play off ball is almost unfair, and what separates him from any other star i've ever watched.

Steph was the show tonight but everyone else on the team outside of Kuminga played well. GP2 is incredible on defense and hit some amazing shots. Hield did his best Klay impression, and Post gave them solid minutes. I liked the fire he played with tonight, he wasn't scared even if he was trying to hard at times, but I knew Kerr was feeling it because he didn't take him out when he heat checked a 3

Green, for all the hate we give him, has an incredible bball iq on BOTH sides of the ball. He's a basketball savant really, and it showed this game on both ends. Dude was just the connector on every play it seemed.

HOU shouldn't be getting the flack yall are giving them. They are young, this board does it every year, over hyping young teams that over acheive, and then get upset when a vet team with better players wins.

I get not liking the young guys, but literally no one on this team can shoot...Brooks is their best shooter, and he's been known to be a bad shooter for most of his career. We won't know how good any of these guys really are on that end until we see them play with actual NBA space. Rockets got swarmed tonight, and Amen was dared to shoot even ft line jumpers...So how can we expect Green and Sengun to excel in that sort of environment?

I still don't know what to make of Green though. He is fluid with the ball, and clearly has skills. Sometimes when you squint you can see Ant on offense. This guy just always seems like he's one braincell clicking in his head correctly to finally getting it, but idk. He could ultimately just be a guy that would excel as a 6th man type like Simons, Sexton, Clarkson, Poole, ect.

To me, he's the one that has to go if trades and moves are to be made.

Sengun/Jabari/Amen/Reed that's my coor, and i'm looking for a legit guard that can carry an offense. Fred has overstayed his welcome, and is just holding dudes back at this point.

I get it sucks but this is par for the course and comes with being a 2 seed. Honestly they played a lot of gross basketball tonight and we’re going against the Steph Warriors minus Jimmy which is basically a lottery team lol. They don’t just have to be better they need to be 10x better and that’s the sad truth.

[Revived]

The chef stays cooking even without the butler around.

[Tracymcgoaty]

I doubt amen has the playmaking of prime Simmons. He's ridiculously athletic and can handle the ball. He has no idea of what he's doing on offense.

If he doesn't develop his offensive game he'll be a 15-20 minute player.

At worst he'll be Aaron Gordon, and that's the type of role he needs to be playing on offense.

It took a while, but AG finally put it all together, focused on his strengths while working on his shooting, and by his prime is now a 3 level threat that is the post boy for playing out of the dunkers spot and off of cuts in the NBA. Amen should learn from Aaron on offense, while being better defensively because of his speed and ability to guard pgs

At worst he’ll be Aaron Gordon? Are you kidding?

Dude at worst he’ll be Mattise Thybulle/Josh Jackson. The latter of who’s not even in the league anymore but there are actually lot of similarities between their skill sets.

I do see a lot of Josh Jackson

[Marvin Martian]

HOU offense is uninspiring

They put too much emphasis on defense that they have to settle for Sengun and Jalen Green as their go to guys.

Jalen Green doesn't provide defense though. That is why he is the odd man out

[CIN-C-STAR]

Lost in all these is Kerr’s small ball (not Death 5 like the Durant, Klay version) but still small and very effective:

6’6 Green
6’3 Payton
6’4 Hield
6’4 Podz
6’2 Curry

Kerr is a genius.


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Sengun never punished that lineup in the paint. Kind of embarrassing.

I think he needs to fight much harder for deep post position
He doesn’t survive 3 dribbles the way they zone up on him. Has to be more efficient and decisive with the ball.

[Raps in 4]

Curry > LeBron. The debate is settled.

[Revived]

HOU offense is uninspiring

They put too much emphasis on defense that they have to settle for Sengun and Jalen Green as their go to guys.

Jalen Green doesn't provide defense though. That is why he is the odd man out

It’s a damn shame too cause he’s athletic and has the size to be a good defender.

[durden_tyler]

Lost in all these is Kerr’s small ball (not Death 5 like the Durant, Klay version) but still small and very effective:

6’6 Green
6’3 Payton
6’4 Hield
6’4 Podz
6’2 Curry

Kerr is a genius.


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Sengun never punished that lineup in the paint. Kind of embarrassing.

I think he needs to fight much harder for deep post position
He doesn’t survive 3 dribbles the way they zone up on him. Has to be more efficient and decisive with the ball.

To be fair with Sengun, he does not have the outside shooting options (or high basketball IQ teammates) like Jokic in Denver, that’s why his offense looks limited with him just attacking the hoop since again, it’s better to take the shot against these 2-3 midgets than pass the ball out to [Green/Amen/Brooks/FVV], all of whom are bad 3 pt shooters.

At some point they’ll develop those or they acquire better shooters, so patience is key here in Sengun’s development.


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