Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread

[TheNetsFan]

Bill Simmons said on his podcast today that the Nets are the favorite to land Giannis. Apparently he wants to to New York and the Knicks don't have enough to trade for him.

Its weird because we don't have the peices to contend with Giannis What other move could we make?

Maybe a KD trade?

Sounds absurd. I'm hoping we can just build through the draft.

But if we had

D Lo
Free Agent
Cam J
KD
Giannis

Would be insane.

The top FAs are centers. If Giannis is really a possibility, I'd look to sign a more versatile stretch big like Turner or Reid, move Claxton (LA?), and then try to bring back some value FAs. If we can keep our earliest pick, and start a team with Giannis, Turner, Johnson, and maybe DLo, I think you have the bones of a top 4 seed.

There's also the potential of using cap space to take on good players from teams trying to duck the tax or an apron.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Bill Simmons said on his podcast today that the Nets are the favorite to land Giannis. Apparently he wants to to New York and the Knicks don't have enough to trade for him.

Its weird because we don't have the peices to contend with Giannis What other move could we make?

Maybe a KD trade?

Sounds absurd. I'm hoping we can just build through the draft.

But if we had

D Lo
Free Agent
Cam J
KD
Giannis

Would be insane.

The top FAs are centers. If Giannis is really a possibility, I'd look to sign a more versatile stretch big like Turner or Reid, move Claxton (LA?), and then try to bring back some value FAs. If we can keep our earliest pick, and start a team with Giannis, Turner, Johnson, and maybe DLo, I think you have the bones of a top 4 seed.

There's also the potential of using cap space to take on good players from teams trying to duck the tax or an apron.

Im assuming Claxton has to be part of the trade. Turner would be a good idea but I don't think we will have the cap space.

[Papi_swav]

Bill Simmons said on his podcast today that the Nets are the favorite to land Giannis. Apparently he wants to to New York and the Knicks don't have enough to trade for him.

Its weird because we don't have the peices to contend with Giannis What other move could we make?

Maybe a KD trade?

Sounds absurd. I'm hoping we can just build through the draft.

But if we had

D Lo
Free Agent
Cam J
KD
Giannis

Would be insane.

The top FAs are centers. If Giannis is really a possibility, I'd look to sign a more versatile stretch big like Turner or Reid, move Claxton (LA?), and then try to bring back some value FAs. If we can keep our earliest pick, and start a team with Giannis, Turner, Johnson, and maybe DLo, I think you have the bones of a top 4 seed.

There's also the potential of using cap space to take on good players from teams trying to duck the tax or an apron.

Im assuming Claxton has to be part of the trade. Turner would be a good idea but I don't think we will have the cap space.

I'm patiently waiting on Jokic

[Paradise]

The top FAs are centers. If Giannis is really a possibility, I'd look to sign a more versatile stretch big like Turner or Reid, move Claxton (LA?), and then try to bring back some value FAs. If we can keep our earliest pick, and start a team with Giannis, Turner, Johnson, and maybe DLo, I think you have the bones of a top 4 seed.

There's also the potential of using cap space to take on good players from teams trying to duck the tax or an apron.

Im assuming Claxton has to be part of the trade. Turner would be a good idea but I don't think we will have the cap space.

I'm patiently waiting on Jokic

Not happening. He will be signing a super max extension. He isn’t turning down $70 million.

[Papi_swav]

Im assuming Claxton has to be part of the trade. Turner would be a good idea but I don't think we will have the cap space.

I'm patiently waiting on Jokic

Not happening. He will be signing a super max extension. He isn’t turning down $70 million.

true but i feel like the Euro guys value winning more than money

[TheNetsFan]

Bill Simmons said on his podcast today that the Nets are the favorite to land Giannis. Apparently he wants to to New York and the Knicks don't have enough to trade for him.

Its weird because we don't have the peices to contend with Giannis What other move could we make?

Maybe a KD trade?

Sounds absurd. I'm hoping we can just build through the draft.

But if we had

D Lo
Free Agent
Cam J
KD
Giannis

Would be insane.

The top FAs are centers. If Giannis is really a possibility, I'd look to sign a more versatile stretch big like Turner or Reid, move Claxton (LA?), and then try to bring back some value FAs. If we can keep our earliest pick, and start a team with Giannis, Turner, Johnson, and maybe DLo, I think you have the bones of a top 4 seed.

There's also the potential of using cap space to take on good players from teams trying to duck the tax or an apron.

Im assuming Claxton has to be part of the trade. Turner would be a good idea but I don't think we will have the cap space.

We have tons of cap space this summer.

[Netaman]

This summer will be pretty fascinating. There is very little to spend on in FA, but Marks has the flexibility to go in a bunch of directions obviously. If Giannis forces his way here, it's probably worth going in that direction. Hopefully Nets will also get to make a top 5 pick to go with him.

I'm expecting DLo back because there's not really any other place that seems likely to pay him, Maybe a 1+1 with a team option. Giannis, DLo, CamJ, Clax is 4/5 of a legitimate starting unit, though obviously if they end up with Giannis there is likely to be a lot of additional player movement. I'd guess at least one of Clax or CamT are in the deal for Giannis, maybe both.

[Paradise]

Yeah, something is up. Vegas odds makers has Brooklyn as the #1 destination for Giannis outside of Milwaukee. It’s increasing by the hour.

Cam Johnson hinted at hoping to stay without being traded, Jordi hinted how much input he has during the draft, Sean has hinted he’s trying to keep a traditional rebuild, Cam Thomas just came out saying he’s aware of his value across the league and ready if he’s not coming back.

Something is happening and someone knows something we don’t.

[jbk1234]

You guys hearing anything about Brooklyn's interest in Ty Jerome? They're the one team I'm nervous about.

[Papi_swav]

You guys hearing anything about Brooklyn's interest in Ty Jerome? They're the one team I'm nervous about.

Haven't heard any rumors yet but I don't usually put any input on rumors because Nets usually keep things really quiet on their end. But I'm really interested in Ty Jerome, he's probably the only guy I want in the free agent market this year, definitely don't want Kuminga. I just hope we don't overpay for him but I can def see Ty getting around 20M per year. But I see the Nets drafting a point guard, either Fears or Jakucionis depending or where they end up picking at so we'll see.

[Decipher]

Nuggets have real problems going forward after signing Murray to a massive contract and could very well blow it up next year

[Netaman]

You guys hearing anything about Brooklyn's interest in Ty Jerome? They're the one team I'm nervous about.

No but I like the idea a great deal and I do expect adding ballhandlers to be a major area of focus for the nets in terms of where they look to acquire 1-2 starter/6th man level player(s). If the nets manipulated their cap to offer him standard MLE ($13-14m) over multiple years do you think cleveland matches?

with the Cam Thomas and DLo cap holds I believe they'd still have about $40m of cap space, if they also didn't renounce sharpe that's still almost $30m of cap space, so they could go beyond the MLE I suppose and go after him that way too with plain old cap space. DLo/Jerome/CamT as 3 the main ballhandlers would have nice complimentary skill sets. jerome as an RFA is sort of reminiscent of tyler johnson when Marks RFA'd him many moons ago.

other than the obvious (giannis) who i expect to go elsewhere, trae young is the only other name out there as a possible trade target who would fit with nets. I could see them leveraging mostly cap space and maybe some meh future picks (like PHI26), maybe S&T someone like Zaire or Sharpe if they interest ATL. Could also see them thinking DLo at less than half his price is a better value and already a known cultural fit, and it's better to use that extra money on someone like Jerome if they think there is upside there in a bigger role. Jerome also originally from NY, which may make him more likely to engage with a Nets offer sheet.

[Netaman]

very useful video overviewing the draft/offseason:

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[Eatgreenz]

Anybody see us making a move for the 2nd pick to try and get Dylan Harper

[Netaman]

Anybody see us making a move for the 2nd pick to try and get Dylan Harper

id guess no because 2 teams would need to pass on him. if SAS doesnt want him then obviously they offer the pick for Giannis, so then MIL would need to not want him badly also. But never say never I guess.

I do think they are going to be active as a facilitator to try to move up from #8 to get as high as they can, and will probably be willing to trade someone like Claxton or whoever to move up, or just packaging other picks. Or as a facilitator in a Giannis trade. Maybe they can move up or get some kind of asset in return for taking on salary or kicking in Claxton.

In a 3 team trade where SAS is sending out pick #2, would MIL be open to pick #8 and Claxton for pick #2? Maybe? Lillard is hurt and has a player option for 2026/2027. If I were them I'd want Harper I think.

[Eatgreenz]

Anybody see us making a move for the 2nd pick to try and get Dylan Harper

id guess no because 2 teams would need to pass on him. if SAS doesnt want him then obviously they offer the pick for Giannis, so then MIL would need to not want him badly also. But never say never I guess.

I do think they are going to be active as a facilitator to try to move up from #8 to get as high as they can, and will probably be willing to trade someone like Claxton or whoever to move up, or just packaging other picks. Or as a facilitator in a Giannis trade. Maybe they can move up or get some kind of asset in return for taking on salary or kicking in Claxton.

In a 3 team trade where SAS is sending out pick #2, would MIL be open to pick #8 and Claxton for pick #2? Maybe? Lillard is hurt and has a player option for 2026/2027. If I were them I'd want Harper I think.

In that case we would have to take lillard contract for them to think of giving up the number 2 pick, or take a bad contract from the Pelicans to get a bucks pick and shipped that for the 2nd pick in 3 team trade

[Netaman]

Anybody see us making a move for the 2nd pick to try and get Dylan Harper

id guess no because 2 teams would need to pass on him. if SAS doesnt want him then obviously they offer the pick for Giannis, so then MIL would need to not want him badly also. But never say never I guess.

I do think they are going to be active as a facilitator to try to move up from #8 to get as high as they can, and will probably be willing to trade someone like Claxton or whoever to move up, or just packaging other picks. Or as a facilitator in a Giannis trade. Maybe they can move up or get some kind of asset in return for taking on salary or kicking in Claxton.

In a 3 team trade where SAS is sending out pick #2, would MIL be open to pick #8 and Claxton for pick #2? Maybe? Lillard is hurt and has a player option for 2026/2027. If I were them I'd want Harper I think.

In that case we would have to take lillard contract for them to think of giving up the number 2 pick

thats an interesting concept. without Giannis and Lillard the only real salary on their squad left would be Kuzma. Giannis to SAS and Lillard to BKL would clear $108m. If Brooklyn sent them Claxton's $25m, there is enough room to take back the Lillard $ into cap space. Is Harper worth it enough to take on Lillard's money and swap from #8 to #2? It is potentially 2 years $112m to move up 6 slots. That's $19m per draft slot plus Claxton. Obviously it depends on how much Brooklyn likes Harper, but if he is a star you do it. If Lillard is out this year you get some of that money back and who knows, maybe he opts out of his player option. If not maybe he comes back healthy and completes the circle of the gerald wallace trade once and for all?

like i said an interesting concept to consider for sure. also 2nd order though, it's possible SAS refuses to even put #2 on the table and instead offers Castle. Which wouldn't be unreasonable. He was 4th overall and probably ROY.

[Decipher]

I don’t really see the point in Trae other than some marketing (maybe)

He’s obviously a better passer than Cam T but is no better scorer, an horrendous defender, very expensive and I don’t see him improving the team

Is the aim to rehabilitate his value and/or hope that another star wants to play with him?

Or is it just to use cap space for the sake of it?

[Netaman]

I don’t really see the point in Trae other than some marketing (maybe)

He’s obviously a better passer than Cam T but is no better scorer, an horrendous defender, very expensive and I don’t see him improving the team

Is the aim to rehabilitate his value and/or hope that another star wants to play with him?

Or is it just to use cap space for the sake of it?

not saying it's exactly the same, but i vividly remember wondering why the knicks were even bothering with brunson (and before that randle).

i think in the nba now you just start building with the best talent you can (ideally that fits your culture) and see where you end up. especially if you have smart management you trust. trae is somehow still only 26 years old. yes he has limitations but he can also fill up a score sheet and is unafraid of big moments.

[Netaman]

here's a Kuminga S&T I'd be very into. post-deal with CamT and DLo cap holds, fanspo still has them under the cap which is I believe correct. They could then go above the cap to bring those 2 back. If they did, I think they'd also have the TPMLE if they wanted to further pursue someone like Ty Jerome.



if we were talking about ideal offseasons, I think this is probably what my plan A would look like right now. Went down this rabbit hole by initially considering a move up to pick #3 for Bailey, but if you think about it Kuminga is basically the same high usage player Bailey is just with 4 years of development under his belt. If there was an over/under for how good bailey is 4 years from now, Kuminga would pretty much be it. at just 22 years old i have no problem taking a swing on Kuminga for just salary matching, then using pick #8 on whoever the best player available is.

DLo / Jerome
CamT / Keon
CamJ / Wilson
Kuminga / Watford
Claxton / Clowney

plus a lotto pick be it Fears, Tre, VJ, Kon, Queen, Jaku, Demin, etc and whatever they do at #19/#26/#27 that's a roster that would be fun to watch Jordi develop next year. Jerome and Kuminga both played HS ball in NY/NJ area too.