2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 9

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Read on Twitter

[batterybro42]

blow it up i just think i cant handle another poor azz season. with these players, its time to rebuild from TOP TO BOTTOM. FO should start by firing themselves by getting this poor show running

edit: pat riley must go and so spoelstra they cant attract anyone here because of what happened with lebron and now jimmy. until these ppl are let go we are going to be the laughingstock of the league because the game has past them

Wild take take a step back and relax

I’m all for blowing up the team but Spo isn’t going anywhere and Riley has earned the right to do as he pleases and leave on his time.

If Spo did ever go to the front office I want the Gundy brothers coaching the team together.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Read on Twitter

This is truly back breaking. How can you build a real team like this?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Read on Twitter

This is truly back breaking. How can you build a real team like this?

This FO simply doesn’t have it any more, I’m not sure how anyone could argue otherwise. The ONE thing they’ve got going for them is they’ve hit on a high percentage of their draft picks recently, that’s it.

[Shewasfly]

Ouch how Ware left Bam hands hanging for the wide open corner three

I think that they used your corner three hypothesis. The problem is they did it wrongly. Instead of simply having Bam, Ware, Highsmith work on making those when they get them, they put Tyler out there and (I guess?) hoped the Cavs would leave his body so he'd get those corner threes.

Problem is, if its not Tyler creating from the top or wing, the other team's defense barely moves. So we just effectively removed him from the offense all together, with no as effective scorer/creator to replace him with.

The Heat ran screens to give Herro a mismatch defender it worked numerous times. But Herro flat out stunk when he got Allen and Wade defending him one on one out on the perimeter. Herro needs to stop doing that bad wide slow cross over dribble. Not one time did the team in general look like they knew the plays which is mind boggling. It felt like the joked around during practice the past two days and it showed on the court.

Idk. I think the Heat were noticeably not trying to involve Tyler in plays for a good portion of the game. Almost like the play that was run to keep it from going to OT against the Hawks, where they had Tyler basically standing in the back court away from all the action to keep their best defender out of the play. They basically did that for an entire game. Lol.

It was when it got out of hand and we NEEDED offense that we tried to be more forceful with getting Tyler involved on those switches. But everyone was pretty deflated at that point. Imo, the game plan really did appear to be to allow Herro to be removed, putting him on the weak side in the corner where the defense would be tilting with the Box and 1, and asked Bam, Wiggins, and Davion to beat their matchups with the additional space that was supposed to create for them with Tyler out of the play. But none of those guys are really *like that* to be asked to initiate and carry the offense for an entire game. Tyler also didn't do a good job of being physical and getting them off him to get the ball once we tried to revert.

Spo is even somewhat alluding to what I'm saying in his post game as far as the offense. I suspect next game we'll see offense that looks closer to what we saw in game 1 & 2, instead of whatever tf change this was is game 3.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The double standards

[3ammy3uck3ts]

The importance of boxing out; that clippers/nuggets ending was wild

[marson]

Interesting off-season. Doubt the Godfather is happy.

Plenty of options would be available, and I don't think we are going to strike out for the millionth time.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Read on Twitter

Barry’s fed up.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Sengun is ass lol how in the world was Houston so much better than us?

[batterybro42]

Read on Twitter

This is truly back breaking. How can you build a real team like this?

This FO simply doesn’t have it any more, I’m not sure how anyone could argue otherwise. The ONE thing they’ve got going for them is they’ve hit on a high percentage of their draft picks recently, that’s it.

Rozier really put things in a bind. He looked good when he first got here, and then the neck injury happened. He’s been terrible since. I don’t know how much we can fault the FO for that.

That neck injury is easy to forget because it happened right at the end of the season, and our year was cut short in the playoffs. At one point they threw career ending out as a possibility for it.

I’m not sure if he had nerve damage or what exactly happened but in a lot of ways he looks like he has completely lost his game. The crazy thing is that his athleticism didn’t go anywhere, he just can’t hoop anymore.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

This is truly back breaking. How can you build a real team like this?

This FO simply doesn’t have it any more, I’m not sure how anyone could argue otherwise. The ONE thing they’ve got going for them is they’ve hit on a high percentage of their draft picks recently, that’s it.

Rozier really put things in a bind. He looked good when he first got here, and then the neck injury happened. He’s been terrible since. I don’t know how much we can fault the FO for that.

That neck injury is easy to forget because it happened right at the end of the season, and our year was cut short in the playoffs. At one point they threw career ending out as a possibility for it.

I’m not sure if he had nerve damage or what exactly happened but in a lot of ways he looks like he has completely lost his game. The crazy thing is that his athleticism didn’t go anywhere, he just can’t hoop anymore.

Idk man, I think it’s just more of Rozier being ass and Spo not being able to coach a competent offense for years now. We really made our deep runs off elite defense and hot shooting at the right time

[marson]

Breakdown time. Since I was not able to watch it live and had time to pause to check the issues.

Clip 1: They're overreacting to every pick-and-roll by the Cavs.

Take a look at Strus here, while Wiggs is doing just fine contesting the drive. But Ware overreacts, leaving Allen wide open.

Clip 2: Then another play where we overreact to a damn pick and roll. Allen is 100% going to roll goddammit, just sag-off and position better.

Clip 3: Now, look at how the Cavs handle our pick-and-roll. It’s a complete contrast. Allen and Mobley are practically cheating off their assignments, and I can’t help but wonder why Spo isn’t doing the same thing with Allen and Mobley, daring them to shoot and letting Bam/Ware protect the paint.

Especially with Allen, who’s 100% going to roll and never pops, plus he’s 0-5 from three this season.

Clip 4: And here's the last clip once again, the Cavs' pick-and-roll completely breaks down the defense. The overtrapping and overreacting open up so many options. It's wild. Mobley's wide open, Herro looks totally lost, and even Strus is left unguarded.

TLDW: Our defensive schemes need a major overhaul, especially against a team with a non-shooting center. The approach for Ware and Bam should just be to camp in the paint and avoid overreacting or overtrapping on every roll.

This isn't the Big 3 era anymore, where we could switch quickly and had a bunch of defensive specialists.

[Beenie]

blow it up i just think i cant handle another poor azz season. with these players, its time to rebuild from TOP TO BOTTOM. FO should start by firing themselves by getting this poor show running

edit: pat riley must go and so spoelstra they cant attract anyone here because of what happened with lebron and now jimmy. until these ppl are let go we are going to be the laughingstock of the league because the game has past them

Wild take take a step back and relax

I’m all for blowing up the team but Spo isn’t going anywhere and Riley has earned the right to do as he pleases and leave on his time.

If Spo did ever go to the front office I want the Gundy brothers coaching the team together.

Hard no to Stan Van

Still haven’t forgiven him for benching Wade game 6 in the playoffs against the Pacers for the final possession

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Read on Twitter

[carnageta]

Breakdown time. Since I was not able to watch it live and had time to pause to check the issues.

Clip 1: They're overreacting to every pick-and-roll by the Cavs.

Take a look at Strus here, while Wiggs is doing just fine contesting the drive. But Ware overreacts, leaving Allen wide open.

Clip 2: Then another play where we overreact to a damn pick and roll. Allen is 100% going to roll goddammit, just sag-off and position better.

Clip 3: Now, look at how the Cavs handle our pick-and-roll. It’s a complete contrast. Allen and Mobley are practically cheating off their assignments, and I can’t help but wonder why Spo isn’t doing the same thing with Allen and Mobley, daring them to shoot and letting Bam/Ware protect the paint.

Especially with Allen, who’s 100% going to roll and never pops, plus he’s 0-5 from three this season.

Clip 4: And here's the last clip once again, the Cavs' pick-and-roll completely breaks down the defense. The overtrapping and overreacting open up so many options. It's wild. Mobley's wide open, Herro looks totally lost, and even Strus is left unguarded.

TLDW: Our defensive schemes need a major overhaul, especially against a team with a non-shooting center. The approach for Ware and Bam should just be to camp in the paint and avoid overreacting or overtrapping on every roll.

This isn't the Big 3 era anymore, where we could switch quickly and had a bunch of defensive specialists.

This is amazing work. Send this to the coaching staff ASAP

[carnageta]

Read on Twitter

Bit of an overreaction, but he's probably somewhat correct. Herro can be the second best scorer on the team if we had a true whale imo, i.e. KD. Bam would be our 3rd best scorer in that case, or 'option C' as Walker is referring to.

Pound for pound, Bam can probably be the second best 'player' on a contender, just not the second best scorer.


It looks ugly right now but having a true #1 option on this team would change things drastically. Herro and Bam would no longer have to play out of position, and Bam has already shown (twice) that he can anchor a championship level defence if the offense is being carried by the others.

[carnageta]

You damn well know Max Strus is taking this series personally lol.

"Duncan Robinson over me!?"

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Read on Twitter

Bit of an overreaction, but he's probably somewhat correct. Herro can be the second best scorer on the team if we had a true whale imo, i.e. KD. Bam would be our 3rd best scorer in that case, or 'option C' as Walker is referring to.

Pound for pound, Bam can probably be the second best 'player' on a contender, just not the second best scorer.


It looks ugly right now but having a true #1 option on this team would change things drastically. Herro and Bam would no longer have to play out of position, and Bam has already shown (twice) that he can anchor a championship level defence if the offense is being carried by the others.

I pretty much agree with everything you said, we have got to get a legit playmaker in addition to a number 1 scoring option and then outside of that we need to get some tough minded 3 and D vets on minimum contracts. I’d like to retain Burks as well.

I hope as everyone is watching these playoff games (if they are) that they’re seeing the importance of having great playmakers on your team. Look at the looks Harden is getting for Kawhi Powell and Zubac (Zubac owes this dude half of his next contract, the looks Jokic is getting others, curry, Cade, Luka/LeBron, SGA, etc. or even look at our series and the wide open looks their playmakers are able to generate for Strus/Mobley/Allen etc. 80% of Mobley’s shots have been assisted, 94% of Allen’s while Bam for comparison has been assisted on 50%, 70% of his 2 point field goals have been unassisted. A true playmaker will make everyone’s life easier and get Herro off ball where he is better as well. It’ll help make sure our top 3 guys are getting their shots in their sweet spots.

[VaDe255]

Only a true top-5 player could ever salvage the Bam/Herro core, they’re just too limited to lead a real contender but the reality is, Miami has no vehicle to actually get one.

They don’t have high draft picks, they don't have enough blue chip young talent to headline a major trade.
They’re stuck fishing in the second-tier star market while pretending they're still players for true superstars. They’re not.

Worse, the front office has crippled themselves for years with bad trades and constantly overpaying average players.
Massive deals for guys like Hassan Whiteside, Dion Waiters, James Johnson, Duncan Robinson, aging Kyle Lowry all of it tied up money and flexibility just to lock in mediocrity.
Instead of learning from it, they double down every time, clinging to players who aren’t good enough and killing any real path toward roster improvement.

This franchise has made it crystal clear: they'd rather stay "competitive" and mid forever than actually take the risks needed to build a real title team.

Spoelstra constantly putting lipstick on a pig and dragging flawed, average rosters to respectability only masks the real problems and makes it worse.
It gives the front office a false sense of validation, convincing them they don’t need to change anything while the foundation quietly rots underneath.

Prepare for another playin season next year, and probably another after that.
Maybe after a few more early exits and embarrassing finishes, they’ll finally realize Bam and Herro aren’t taking them anywhere.

But knowing the Heat, they’re too stubborn to rebuild, too scared to tank, and too addicted to mediocrity to truly fix it.
They'll cling to "Heat Culture" and pride themselves on "being competitive," while in reality, they’re just another team stuck in NBA purgatory year after year after year.

Depending on what they do in the offseason I might stop watching Heat games at all. It's too frustrating watching a product, which is just mid and has no direction.