2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West First Round: #3 LA Lakers vs #6 Minnesota Timberwolves (MIN leads 3-1)

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Who wins?

Poll ended at Wed Apr 30, 2025 4:16 pm

Lakers in 6
6
6%
Lakers in 7
17
18%
Wolves in 5
28
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Wolves in 6
39
41%
Wolves in 7
5
5%
 
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Post#1921 » by Iwasawitness » Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:30 am

The Warrior wrote:
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Yes... :crazy:

Take off your Lebron cult sunglasses and understand that he's not immune to criticism. Since you apparently need the exact definition in basketball terms, choking means failing to perform well under pressure, especially in important moments of a game, leading to mistakes like missed shots, turnovers, or bad decisions. Check check and check.

Lakers last 3 posessions not including the Lebron foul on Anthony Edwards which put them up by 3.

-Lebron bricked jumpshot
-Lebron turnover
-Lebron giving it up to Reaves (can't fault him too much on this one but he's the King right)


I criticize him frequently, when it makes sense.

Now that you’re actually using the proper definition, let’s apply some context here shall we?

LeBron had multiple defensive stops that led to baskets at the other end right before those very things you just mentioned. He literally played the entire half and is 40. But more importantly, we’ve seen him have some of the most clutch performances of all time. So no, at 40 years of age in the first round of the playoffs, I do not think he “choked”. Use your brain here.


I literally used the same definition except in more detail in my follow up post. Take your own advice. :crazy:


No you didn’t. Failing to perform under pressure and coming up short when it matters are two different things. But the funny thing is, LeBron did neither of these things, so it’s a mute point.
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Post#1922 » by cpower » Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:33 am

I think the Net rating speaks for itself, Lakers are the worst Net rating among the warriors, wolves, clips and nuggets and they just overachieved in RS...in playoffs the margin is thin and you just dont have a good enough team to beat the better ones
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Re: 2025 NBA PLAYOFFS West First Round: #3 LA Lakers vs #6 Minnesota Timberwolves (MIN leads 2-1) 

Post#1923 » by Iwasawitness » Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:33 am

Scottie Pimpin wrote:
Iwasawitness wrote:
The Warrior wrote:
Yes... :crazy:

Take off your Lebron cult sunglasses and understand that he's not immune to criticism. Since you apparently need the exact definition in basketball terms, choking means failing to perform well under pressure, especially in important moments of a game, leading to mistakes like missed shots, turnovers, or bad decisions. Check check and check.

Lakers last 3 posessions not including the Lebron foul on Anthony Edwards which put them up by 3.

-Lebron bricked jumpshot
-Lebron turnover
-Lebron giving it up to Reaves (can't fault him too much on this one but he's the King right)


I criticize him frequently, when it makes sense.

Now that you’re actually using the proper definition, let’s apply some context here shall we?

LeBron had multiple defensive stops that led to baskets at the other end right before those very things you just mentioned. He literally played the entire half and is 40. But more importantly, we’ve seen him have some of the most clutch performances of all time. So no, at 40 years of age in the first round of the playoffs, I do not think he “choked”. Use your brain here.


Well if you're going to use his longevity as a reason for his goatness, then people are allowed to criticize him for choking regardless of his age and regardless if it's the first round of the playoffs or the finals. Put aside your clear double standards.


You’re not understanding what I’m saying.

We’ve seen LeBron thrive in far more critical and important situations than this. He’s proven time and time again that he isn’t afraid of the big moment. It is downright illogical to claim that the pressure of a game four in the first round of the playoffs was too big for him when he’s dominated game 7s in the NBA finals before.

I’m telling you straight up he didn’t choke here. A more logical explanation is that he was gassed at this point because he played the entire half and is 40 years old.
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Post#1924 » by CS707 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:10 am

Iwasawitness wrote:it’s a mute point.


If only…
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Post#1925 » by jredsaz » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:20 am

Probably already been talked about but Edwards might be the next guy. Wow.
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Post#1926 » by Mavrelous » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:24 am

jredsaz wrote:Probably already been talked about but Edwards might be the next guy. Wow.

He's not yet, Lakers are a bad rim protecting team with 0 depth, they are closer as a matchup to the Suns last year than actual good teams, he also looked baby Jordan last year.
Love ANT, but he needs to prove himself against good paint defense, he was easily outplayed last year.
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Post#1927 » by jredsaz » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:30 am

Mavrelous wrote:
jredsaz wrote:Probably already been talked about but Edwards might be the next guy. Wow.

He's not yet, Lakers are a bad rim protecting team with 0 depth, they are closer as a matchup to the Suns last year than actual good teams, he also looked baby Jordan last year.
Love ANT, but he needs to prove himself against good paint defense, he was easily outplayed last year.


Absolutely fair but he has a team that can compete with that style of team. Ant went head to head with Luka and Lebron in a critical game and out played both. He absolutely has more to prove but he has been super impressive
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Post#1928 » by California Gold » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:33 am

Normally I'd say a team with LeBron will always have a chance down 3-1, but I don't see it in this series. LeBron's 40 and Luka is being asked to do too much. Even if they somehow take game 5, I don't expect it to go further than game 6. Wolves smell blood at this point.

Lakers were a few plays away from winning games 3 and 4 but sometimes that's how it goes in these series when it's close. Lakers rebounding was atrocious today and I don't expect that to improve.
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Post#1929 » by Mavrelous » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:34 am

jredsaz wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
jredsaz wrote:Probably already been talked about but Edwards might be the next guy. Wow.

He's not yet, Lakers are a bad rim protecting team with 0 depth, they are closer as a matchup to the Suns last year than actual good teams, he also looked baby Jordan last year.
Love ANT, but he needs to prove himself against good paint defense, he was easily outplayed last year.


Absolutely fair but he has a team that can compete with that style of team. Ant went head to head with Luka and Lebron in a critical game and out played both. He absolutely has more to prove but he has been super impressive


He's awesome, top 10 for sure, he's also super fun to watch.
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Post#1930 » by SHAQ32 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:43 am

Is LeBron the oldest to go scoreless in back-to-back 4th quarters?
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Post#1931 » by SHAQ32 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:44 am

cpower wrote:Lakers just overachieved in RS

What was their record prior to the "trade"?
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Post#1932 » by Pistol_Pete » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:50 am

SHAQ32 wrote:Is LeBron the oldest to go scoreless in back-to-backs 4th quarters?


That can’t be a stat. Scoreless two games in a row in the 4th ?!
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Post#1933 » by Ruma85 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:51 am

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SHAQ32 wrote:Is LeBron the oldest to go scoreless in back-to-backs 4th quarters?


That can’t be a stat. Scoreless two games in a row in the 4th ?!


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Post#1934 » by sunsbg » Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:00 am

jredsaz wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:
jredsaz wrote:Probably already been talked about but Edwards might be the next guy. Wow.

He's not yet, Lakers are a bad rim protecting team with 0 depth, they are closer as a matchup to the Suns last year than actual good teams, he also looked baby Jordan last year.
Love ANT, but he needs to prove himself against good paint defense, he was easily outplayed last year.


Absolutely fair but he has a team that can compete with that style of team. Ant went head to head with Luka and Lebron in a critical game and out played both. He absolutely has more to prove but he has been super impressive


Yeah Big Dick outplaying Big Balls so far. Scoring stats still better for Luka, but Ant is targeting him and those A/T stats are pretty lopsided in his favour.
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Post#1935 » by HMFFL » Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:06 am

Minny is my dark horse out of the West this year.
The growth of their players over the years has been fun to see.

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Post#1936 » by BaDaBo » Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:11 am

Is hand-checking legal again? Randle and Edwards were constantly using both hands to stop penetration.

I'm not saying the Lakers played perfect defense without fouling — you could argue more calls were missed on their end too — but the hand-checking really stood out.

Also, what was up with Ant shoving LeBron a few times with both hands while crossing half court? I know a lot of people loved it because he "intimidated" LeBron and got in his head, but to me, that’s an easy & stupid away-from-the-ball foul that should be called 100/100 times.
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Post#1937 » by Clay Davis » Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:12 am

Lakers need to go all-in on JAKOB POELTL. An amazing PnR big man for Lebron AND Luka who can reliably anchor the defense (and thereby free Lebron from having to play the 5 at all) is necessary. The Lakers need to acknowledge the rizz of JAKOB POELTL. They can make it happen. They must do it. Two first rounders will do it for Masai.
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Post#1938 » by perempe20 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:13 am


was the TO after the inbound (6:55) James' fault?
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Post#1939 » by ball_takes23 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:24 am

perempe20 wrote:
was the TO after the inbound (6:55) James' fault?


i'd put it 70% on lebron, 30% on the others for not getting open enough. he had reaves flashing open at the beginning and also had a timeout in their pocket
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Post#1940 » by RB34 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:25 am

Pistol_Pete wrote:
SHAQ32 wrote:Is LeBron the oldest to go scoreless in back-to-backs 4th quarters?


That can’t be a stat. Scoreless two games in a row in the 4th ?!


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