Trade back for Lillard?

[m0ng0]

Dame likely Achilles injury tonight

mongo celebrates

You sir are a classless douche.

[zzaj]

Yeah, I feel bad for Lillard…

If he’s able to come back at 75%, he’s still a valuable player as a shooter and high BBIQ playmaker in the half court—But there’s likely no way he is as valuable as his contract dictates.

EDIT: I somehow didnt realize Lillard’s age…I think of him as perpetually 30, I guess. Almost no chance he plays next year, and at his age? Yikes. Is there even a precedent for an almost 35 year old coming back from an achilles? I think Billups had one late?

[DaVoiceMaster]

Lillard is likely out next season. No sense trading for him now. Really hate seeing him go down tonight.

[Wizenheimer]

Yeah, I feel bad for Lillard…

If he’s able to come back at 75%, he’s still a valuable player as a shooter and high BBIQ playmaker in the half court—But there’s likely no way he is as valuable as his contract dictates.

he probably won't play next season, at least not till well after the all-star game. He turns 35 in July. He's three years older than Durant when he tore his Achilles.

I don't know that any NBA player has recovered from this injury when most of the recovery was when they were 35

[Wizenheimer]

Dame likely Achilles injury tonight

mongo celebrates

You sir are a classless douche.

lol...complete projection

[DusterBuster]

Lillard is likely out next season. No sense trading for him now. Really hate seeing him go down tonight.

Yeah, ignoring literally anything said in this thread at this point. Anyone with even an ounce of a heart of a Blazer fan should be pretty devastated by tonight.

This is the last thing you ever want to see, especially after what he came back from.

[m0ng0]

Dame likely Achilles injury tonight

mongo celebrates

You sir are a classless douche.

lol...complete projection

Based on what sir?

[Norm2953]

Bucks board is arguing over stretching and waiving Dame, which I suppose helps them save in
luxury taxes.

That seems really cold but if he's out for most of the 2025-6 season, worth a consideration for the
Bucks.

[DaVoiceMaster]

Bucks board is arguing over stretching and waiving Dame, which I suppose helps them save in
luxury taxes.

That seems really cold but if he's out for most of the 2025-6 season, worth a consideration for the
Bucks.

They gotta do something cuz they're not getting any better.

[DusterBuster]

Bucks board is arguing over stretching and waiving Dame, which I suppose helps them save in
luxury taxes.

That seems really cold but if he's out for most of the 2025-6 season, worth a consideration for the
Bucks.

They gotta do something cuz they're not getting any better.

After this, it’s hard to imagine Giannis not asking out and the Bucks not obliging to get back what they’ve spent to try and get another ring with him. At this point, you got the ring, might as well move on and rebuild. They can recoup the assets they lost trading for Dame by moving Giannis, so it won’t be as big a hit.

[PDXKnight]

Bucks board is arguing over stretching and waiving Dame, which I suppose helps them save in
luxury taxes.

That seems really cold but if he's out for most of the 2025-6 season, worth a consideration for the
Bucks.

They gotta do something cuz they're not getting any better.

After this, it’s hard to imagine Giannis not asking out and the Bucks not obliging to get back what they’ve spent to try and get another ring with him. At this point, you got the ring, might as well move on and rebuild. They can recoup the assets they lost trading for Dame by moving Giannis, so it won’t be as big a hit.

Not saying I even remotely expect this but it'd be funny if we returned their assets from the Dame trade with some additional pieces attached to acquire Giannis. Ie if they liked Sharpe (packaged with some of the expirings) rocking a lineup of scoot-deni-toumani-giannis-clingan moving forward would be smooth with some nice upside besides giannis.

[zzaj]

They gotta do something cuz they're not getting any better.

After this, it’s hard to imagine Giannis not asking out and the Bucks not obliging to get back what they’ve spent to try and get another ring with him. At this point, you got the ring, might as well move on and rebuild. They can recoup the assets they lost trading for Dame by moving Giannis, so it won’t be as big a hit.

Not saying I even remotely expect this but it'd be funny if we returned their assets from the Dame trade with some additional pieces attached to acquire Giannis. Ie if they liked Sharpe (packaged with some of the expirings) rocking a lineup of scoot-deni-toumani-giannis-clingan moving forward would be smooth with some nice upside besides giannis.

I would expect that the Bucks would want Deni back in any trade...

[BlazersBroncos]

I would still trade for Dame even w/ his injury. Offer MIL a platter of our vet role players and ask for that 2031 FRP.

Dame + Kuzma + 2031 FRP for Grant + Simons + RWIII + Reath

[Wizenheimer]

This actually might end up being bad news for the Blazers

if Giannis demands a trade this off-season, and that's entirely possible now, it could really accelerate the Milwaukee rebuild. The Bucks could get a godfather package similar to what OKC got for Paul George. It only took OKC 3 seasons to go from 22 wins to 40 wins; the PDX/Mil 2028 pick swap is still 3 seasons away. And it took OKC 4 seasons to go from 22 wins to 57 wins. That 2029 Milwaukee 1st is 4 seasons away

obviously, that OKC rebuild is probably an outlier among rebuilds, and they had all their own picks, unlike Milwaukee. But 4 seasons is a long time in the NBA and a lot of good and bad can happen for the two teams

keep in mind what the NBA average is for swaps actually conveying is only 40%. Three out of 5 swaps are never conveyed

[JRoy]

This actually might end up being bad news for the Blazers

if Giannis demands a trade this off-season, and that's entirely possible now, it could really accelerate the Milwaukee rebuild. The Bucks could get a godfather package similar to what OKC got for Paul George. It only took OKC 3 seasons to go from 22 wins to 40 wins; the PDX/Mil 2028 pick swap is still 3 seasons away. And it took OKC 4 seasons to go from 22 wins to 57 wins. That 2029 Milwaukee 1st is 4 seasons away

obviously, that OKC rebuild is probably an outlier among rebuilds, and they had all their own picks, unlike Milwaukee. But 4 seasons is a long time in the NBA and a lot of good and bad can happen for the two teams

keep in mind what the NBA average is for swaps actually conveying is only 40%. Three out of 5 swaps are never conveyed

You may be right, but MIL has experienced far more failure than success with their various rebuilds over the last 30 years.

At this time, that pick and those swaps are pretty valuable. That may change as the situation develops.

There may be a better picture on draft night.

[Blazinaway]

This actually might end up being bad news for the Blazers

if Giannis demands a trade this off-season, and that's entirely possible now, it could really accelerate the Milwaukee rebuild. The Bucks could get a godfather package similar to what OKC got for Paul George. It only took OKC 3 seasons to go from 22 wins to 40 wins; the PDX/Mil 2028 pick swap is still 3 seasons away. And it took OKC 4 seasons to go from 22 wins to 57 wins. That 2029 Milwaukee 1st is 4 seasons away

obviously, that OKC rebuild is probably an outlier among rebuilds, and they had all their own picks, unlike Milwaukee. But 4 seasons is a long time in the NBA and a lot of good and bad can happen for the two teams

keep in mind what the NBA average is for swaps actually conveying is only 40%. Three out of 5 swaps are never conveyed

Maybe, but Presti is one of the best GM's in the league, Bucks don't have anyone close to him, and they have also drafted very well and I would not expect nearly as good from Bucks

[zzaj]

This actually might end up being bad news for the Blazers

if Giannis demands a trade this off-season, and that's entirely possible now, it could really accelerate the Milwaukee rebuild. The Bucks could get a godfather package similar to what OKC got for Paul George. It only took OKC 3 seasons to go from 22 wins to 40 wins; the PDX/Mil 2028 pick swap is still 3 seasons away. And it took OKC 4 seasons to go from 22 wins to 57 wins. That 2029 Milwaukee 1st is 4 seasons away

obviously, that OKC rebuild is probably an outlier among rebuilds, and they had all their own picks, unlike Milwaukee. But 4 seasons is a long time in the NBA and a lot of good and bad can happen for the two teams

keep in mind what the NBA average is for swaps actually conveying is only 40%. Three out of 5 swaps are never conveyed

I had the same thoughts...even though it feels a little gauche having them in light of Lillard's career altering injury. In an ideal world, any MIL rebuild would start much closer to 2029.

It will be very interesting to see how Milwaukie and Giannis handles this, given they were playing so much better on paper WITHOUT Lillard.

IMHO, there's almost a zero chance Lillard and especially Giannis becomes a Portland Trailblazer any time soon...I have a sneaking suspicion that the way the Lillard situation transpired had more to do with Kolde than we could ever possibly know, and Giannis will command a better package than what the Blazers have to offer.

[Capn'O]

Terrible news on Lillard. I hope he finds his way back to PDX for a limited role swan song before he retires.

[DusterBuster]

This actually might end up being bad news for the Blazers

if Giannis demands a trade this off-season, and that's entirely possible now, it could really accelerate the Milwaukee rebuild. The Bucks could get a godfather package similar to what OKC got for Paul George. It only took OKC 3 seasons to go from 22 wins to 40 wins; the PDX/Mil 2028 pick swap is still 3 seasons away. And it took OKC 4 seasons to go from 22 wins to 57 wins. That 2029 Milwaukee 1st is 4 seasons away

obviously, that OKC rebuild is probably an outlier among rebuilds, and they had all their own picks, unlike Milwaukee. But 4 seasons is a long time in the NBA and a lot of good and bad can happen for the two teams

keep in mind what the NBA average is for swaps actually conveying is only 40%. Three out of 5 swaps are never conveyed

Maybe, but Presti is one of the best GM's in the league, Bucks don't have anyone close to him, and they have also drafted very well and I would not expect nearly as good from Bucks

Yeah, I'm not gonna sweat it until we see what happens. No need for handwringing over "what might happen".

[Dame Lizard]

This actually might end up being bad news for the Blazers

if Giannis demands a trade this off-season, and that's entirely possible now, it could really accelerate the Milwaukee rebuild. The Bucks could get a godfather package similar to what OKC got for Paul George. It only took OKC 3 seasons to go from 22 wins to 40 wins; the PDX/Mil 2028 pick swap is still 3 seasons away. And it took OKC 4 seasons to go from 22 wins to 57 wins. That 2029 Milwaukee 1st is 4 seasons away

obviously, that OKC rebuild is probably an outlier among rebuilds, and they had all their own picks, unlike Milwaukee. But 4 seasons is a long time in the NBA and a lot of good and bad can happen for the two teams

keep in mind what the NBA average is for swaps actually conveying is only 40%. Three out of 5 swaps are never conveyed

Maybe, maybe not.

But as you've suggested, the OKC rebuild is an absolutely huge outlier.

They received a promising, but still unproven rookie on SGA, who probably had similar trade value as Shaedon Sharpe after his first season. That player turned into the likely 2025 MVP. For the record, I do believe Jokic deserves the award, but I think SGA will get it due to team record.

They then drafted a 2025 All Star with a #12 pick from the 2022 draft. Both instances are very unlikely.

Interesting times ahead for Milwaukee.

Really sad news for Dame. Wishing him all the best and hopefully life can be kind to him over his challenging phase. Life is bigger than basketball.