Magic/Lakers/Jazz

Moderators: MoneyTalks41890, HartfordWhalers, Texas Chuck, BullyKing, Andre Roberstan, loserX, Trader_Joe, Mamba4Goat, pacers33granger

Astaluego
Starter
Posts: 2,394
And1: 907
Joined: May 02, 2020
   

Magic/Lakers/Jazz 

Post#1 » by Astaluego » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:39 am

MAGIC
In:Reaves/Knecht/Maxi
Out:Black/KCP/FRP 26

Reaves/Suggs/Wagner/Paolo/WCJ
Cole/Harris/Knecht/Da Silva/Goga

They cover their obvious holes, take money out of KCP to make room for Reaves' next extension.

LAKERS
In: Kessler/KCP
Out:Reaves/Knecht/Maxi/FRP Swap 2032

They get players that complement Luka/Bron better.. defensive-oriented players


JAZZ
In:Black/FRP Swap 2032/Future 26 FRP(Magic)
Out: Kessler

They get an overpayment for Kessler, a very good guard prospect, another pick for the chest and a valuable future pick swap (high-variance lottery ticket) for when LeBron is already out of the league and a Luka with more than 30 years, I don't know, projects promising, besides by then, the Jazz should be a good team.
Old Mike Lorenzo
User avatar
babyjax13
RealGM
Posts: 35,002
And1: 17,516
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
Location: Occupied Los Angeles
     

Re: Magic/Lakers/Jazz 

Post#2 » by babyjax13 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:47 am

Zero interest for Utah even though it is certainly fair. Kessler is a clear starting caliber center, Black is a nice rotation player who might someday be a clear starter, but it is not today. Plus, the last thing we need is to trade for more guards.
Image

JazzMatt13 wrote:just because I think aliens probably have to do with JFK, doesn't mean my theory that Jazz will never get Wiggins, isn't true.

JColl
facothomas22
Analyst
Posts: 3,709
And1: 2,179
Joined: Jul 02, 2018
   

Re: Magic/Lakers/Jazz 

Post#3 » by facothomas22 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 1:19 pm

The Magic are massively overpaying here. After the Timberwolves series, nobody is giving up anything of value for Austin Reaves.He has fully confirmed why I never placed value on him to begin with. In fact if anything, this series vs the Timberwolves actually has me questioning if he can even be on contending team at all. This is not going to help the Magic at all, unless they are content with mediocrity. They may as well look into signing Gary Trent Jr or D'Angelo Russell in the off season.
DNP-Old
Pro Prospect
Posts: 853
And1: 373
Joined: Jan 24, 2012
Location: Too far from home.

Re: Magic/Lakers/Jazz 

Post#4 » by DNP-Old » Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:18 pm

facothomas22 wrote:The Magic are massively overpaying here. After the Timberwolves series, nobody is giving up anything of value for Austin Reaves.He has fully confirmed why I never placed value on him to begin with. In fact if anything, this series vs the Timberwolves actually has me questioning if he can even be on contending team at all. This is not going to help the Magic at all, unless they are content with mediocrity. They may as well look into signing Gary Trent Jr or D'Angelo Russell in the off season.


One trick pony.
"Be quick, don't hurry" -John Wooden-

"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth" -Plato-
facothomas22
Analyst
Posts: 3,709
And1: 2,179
Joined: Jul 02, 2018
   

Re: Magic/Lakers/Jazz 

Post#5 » by facothomas22 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:52 pm

DNP-Old wrote:
facothomas22 wrote:The Magic are massively overpaying here. After the Timberwolves series, nobody is giving up anything of value for Austin Reaves.He has fully confirmed why I never placed value on him to begin with. In fact if anything, this series vs the Timberwolves actually has me questioning if he can even be on contending team at all. This is not going to help the Magic at all, unless they are content with mediocrity. They may as well look into signing Gary Trent Jr or D'Angelo Russell in the off season.


One trick pony.


Yep. He's the true definition of a one dimensional novelty player.If he can't foul bait or make 3pt on efficient level, he simply unplayable, which is a big problem during the playoffs.Guys like that can't be on your roster if you are trying to contend for a Championship,unless you have enough talent to the point where you would be able shrink down their minutes down to a very low number during the playoffs.
OrlandoDream
General Manager
Posts: 8,021
And1: 6,242
Joined: Jul 05, 2013
Location: Altamonte Springs Fl
 

Re: Magic/Lakers/Jazz 

Post#6 » by OrlandoDream » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:09 pm

Lakers front office anf Pelinka are gonna be in rude awakening when they see how much they overvalue Reeves. He is a solid guard, good IQ and can shoot but defensively not great. There is also no reason for Orlando to add a FRP here. Im also pretty sure Anthony Black isn't available unless its for a package for much better player. Im not even sure Reeves is more valuable than Antony Black to a playoff team.

LA needs a big. If they wanna do a Wendell Carter for Reeves swap, that's more interesting.
DNP-Old
Pro Prospect
Posts: 853
And1: 373
Joined: Jan 24, 2012
Location: Too far from home.

Re: Magic/Lakers/Jazz 

Post#7 » by DNP-Old » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:28 pm

facothomas22 wrote:
DNP-Old wrote:
facothomas22 wrote:The Magic are massively overpaying here. After the Timberwolves series, nobody is giving up anything of value for Austin Reaves.He has fully confirmed why I never placed value on him to begin with. In fact if anything, this series vs the Timberwolves actually has me questioning if he can even be on contending team at all. This is not going to help the Magic at all, unless they are content with mediocrity. They may as well look into signing Gary Trent Jr or D'Angelo Russell in the off season.


One trick pony.


Yep. He's the true definition of a one dimensional novelty player.If he can't foul bait or make 3pt on efficient level, he simply unplayable, which is a big problem during the playoffs.Guys like that can't be on your roster if you are trying to contend for a Championship,unless you have enough talent to the point where you would be able shrink down their minutes down to a very low number during the playoffs.



Not Reaves, you.
"Be quick, don't hurry" -John Wooden-

"No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth" -Plato-
User avatar
Texas Chuck
Senior Mod - NBA TnT Forum
Senior Mod - NBA TnT Forum
Posts: 92,369
And1: 98,212
Joined: May 19, 2012
Location: Purgatory
   

Re: Magic/Lakers/Jazz 

Post#8 » by Texas Chuck » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:32 pm

yeah Reaves is good and if you could get him for Black and one FRP, you should absolutely do that.

But its more fun to short sample size theater and go hur dur guy sucks.
ThunderBolt wrote:I’m going to let some of you in on a little secret I learned on realgm. If you don’t like a thread, not only do you not have to comment but you don’t even have to open it and read it. You’re welcome.
jbk1234
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 58,778
And1: 35,856
Joined: Dec 22, 2010
 

Re: Magic/Lakers/Jazz 

Post#9 » by jbk1234 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:39 pm

Whatever Reeves may, or may not be, he's not a PG. The Magic have absolutely no business going into next season without a substantial upgrade at that position and they shouldn't be trading away firsts and Black before it's addressed.

Yes Suggs was out, but I have real questions as to how he would've held up against Derrick White and Pritchard as the primary ball handler. Better than CoJo and Cole for sure, but that doesn't necessarily mean well.
cbosh4mvp wrote:
Jarret Allen isn’t winning you anything. Garland won’t show up in the playoffs. Mobley is a glorified dunk man. Mitchell has some experience but is a liability on defense. To me, the Cavs are a treadmill team.
Daddy 801
General Manager
Posts: 8,441
And1: 2,931
Joined: May 14, 2013
 

Re: Magic/Lakers/Jazz 

Post#10 » by Daddy 801 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:30 pm

As a Jazz fan I would pass. Not saying it isn’t fair from Orlando/LA perspective. Just not a deal I would make if I am the Jazz.
Skybox
RealGM
Posts: 18,354
And1: 8,421
Joined: Jan 21, 2017
 

Re: Magic/Lakers/Jazz 

Post#11 » by Skybox » Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:46 pm

Reaves sucks...banish him to ORL. :D

LAL sends: Reaves, Hachimura, Knecht
ORL sends: KCP, Goga Bitadze, ORL 26 (Top 5)
nzahir
RealGM
Posts: 11,549
And1: 5,080
Joined: Nov 04, 2017
 

Re: Magic/Lakers/Jazz 

Post#12 » by nzahir » Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:26 pm

This is horrific for us

Black is averaging 10 ppg with no Suggs and Orlando's bad offense. 0/10 from 3

KCP looks like he has fallen off a bit, needs to be spoonfed and paid a lot for it. Not even sure if hes really better than Gabe right now, and if he is, definitely not worth 2x the pay (and Gabe is an expiring)

A Suggs for Reaves deal is much more close to value

My issue is who is our #2/3 then alongside Bron. Not sure Suggs can be that
AingesBurner
RealGM
Posts: 15,243
And1: 3,904
Joined: Jan 18, 2013
   

Re: Magic/Lakers/Jazz 

Post#13 » by AingesBurner » Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:45 pm

Not a fan from Utahs perspective. I need a clear overpay to move Kessler.

Return to Trades and Transactions