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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#661 » by Guano » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:08 pm

Well ackchyually we won cause OG clamped cade on 2 middies but everyone is so enamored by offense they overlook the greatest defensive player of all time.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#663 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:09 pm

They way DET has been allowed to foul and push off and bump players all over the court and they want a fugazi call to gift wrap them a game? FOH. They have been getting away with murder this entire series. That entire scramble for the ball was chock full o' fouls and non calls. Game over.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#664 » by god shammgod » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:12 pm

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Too bad the fans dont appreciate him. I’ve seen it with Ewing, I’ve seen it with Melo and now Brunson. It never fails. Sad.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#665 » by GONYK » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:14 pm

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I mean this is debatable, without the Kat ridiculous fadeaway, couple 3 balls we don't win this game. KAT is equally important to this team as Brunson. One can also argue we are better off how the offense has been the last 2 games with it running through KAT, makes things easier to Brunson, he doesnt have to shoulder the load and can do what he does best in the 4th late.


I don't know if you're talking about whose game or whose team this is, but I don't think either is debatable.

KAT had a pretty uneven 3rd quarter without Brunson was a large reason we were in a hole.

Brunson brought us all the way back by nearly by himself (hi Mikal) and KAT brought us home. Both were needed, but the order of operations matters.

As far as whose team this is, KAT himself says they all follow Brunson's lead.

I'm not starting a war here. I love both guys, but there is only one Captain.


Everything you said is true. But they don’t like Jalen anymore. He’s selfish. They want the offense to run through Kat now.


They got that for 8 mins straight yesterday and the tears almost flooded out the game thread :lol:

KAT is phenomenal, and a walking mismatch, but you can't run the offense through him because he's not a creator.

You can put him in advantageous situations, but you need a PG for that. Thank God we have an elite one.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#666 » by KnicksGadfly » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:17 pm

Guano wrote:Well ackchyually we won cause OG clamped cade on 2 middies but everyone is so enamored by offense they overlook the greatest defensive player of all time.
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Pistons fans keep pointing at the Hart foul to distract from their guy choking for three possessions in a row. Best player in the series? FOH.

Ausar Thompson different?! FOH.

Brunson not clutch in the postseason? FOH.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#667 » by mpharris36 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:17 pm

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I don't know if you're talking about whose game or whose team this is, but I don't think either is debatable.

KAT had a pretty uneven 3rd quarter without Brunson was a large reason we were in a hole.

Brunson brought us all the way back by nearly by himself (hi Mikal) and KAT brought us home. Both were needed, but the order of operations matters.

As far as whose team this is, KAT himself says they all follow Brunson's lead.

I'm not starting a war here. I love both guys, but there is only one Captain.


Everything you said is true. But they don’t like Jalen anymore. He’s selfish. They want the offense to run through Kat now.


They got that for 8 mins straight yesterday and the tears almost flooded out the game thread :lol:

KAT is phenomenal, and a walking mismatch, but you can't run the offense through him because he's not a creator.

You can put him in advantageous situations, but you need a PG for that. Thank God we have an elite one.



Well its not ideal when Cam Payne is hijacking your offense. I still contend Mikal should be running the offense when Brunson goes to the bench.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#668 » by Fury » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:18 pm

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Everything you said is true. But they don’t like Jalen anymore. He’s selfish. They want the offense to run through Kat now.


They got that for 8 mins straight yesterday and the tears almost flooded out the game thread :lol:

KAT is phenomenal, and a walking mismatch, but you can't run the offense through him because he's not a creator.

You can put him in advantageous situations, but you need a PG for that. Thank God we have an elite one.



Well its not ideal when Cam Payne is hijacking your offense. I still contend Mikal should be running the offense when Brunson goes to the bench.


And bringing up the ball more with Brunson on the court
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#669 » by GONYK » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:20 pm

Guano wrote:Well ackchyually we won cause OG clamped cade on 2 middies but everyone is so enamored by offense they overlook the greatest defensive player of all time.
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OG should get some version of the game ball for handling Shroeder's illegal screens like this:

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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#670 » by LFGK » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:22 pm

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I don't know if you're talking about whose game or whose team this is, but I don't think either is debatable.

KAT had a pretty uneven 3rd quarter without Brunson was a large reason we were in a hole.

Brunson brought us all the way back by nearly by himself (hi Mikal) and KAT brought us home. Both were needed, but the order of operations matters.

As far as whose team this is, KAT himself says they all follow Brunson's lead.

I'm not starting a war here. I love both guys, but there is only one Captain.


Everything you said is true. But they don’t like Jalen anymore. He’s selfish. They want the offense to run through Kat now.


They got that for 8 mins straight yesterday and the tears almost flooded out the game thread :lol:

KAT is phenomenal, and a walking mismatch, but you can't run the offense through him because he's not a creator.

You can put him in advantageous situations, but you need a PG for that. Thank God we have an elite one.


every single play with him at the top of the key is an advantageous situation man, he has guys on him that can not defend him, This is a great problem to have
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#671 » by mpharris36 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:22 pm

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They got that for 8 mins straight yesterday and the tears almost flooded out the game thread :lol:

KAT is phenomenal, and a walking mismatch, but you can't run the offense through him because he's not a creator.

You can put him in advantageous situations, but you need a PG for that. Thank God we have an elite one.



Well its not ideal when Cam Payne is hijacking your offense. I still contend Mikal should be running the offense when Brunson goes to the bench.


And bringing up the ball more with Brunson on the court



If Duren is on Hart there is no reason Hart can't bring the ball up a bunch of times a game just to give Brunson a little blow from teams full court pressing him.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#672 » by GONYK » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:22 pm

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Everything you said is true. But they don’t like Jalen anymore. He’s selfish. They want the offense to run through Kat now.


They got that for 8 mins straight yesterday and the tears almost flooded out the game thread :lol:

KAT is phenomenal, and a walking mismatch, but you can't run the offense through him because he's not a creator.

You can put him in advantageous situations, but you need a PG for that. Thank God we have an elite one.



Well its not ideal when Cam Payne is hijacking your offense. I still contend Mikal should be running the offense when Brunson goes to the bench.


I agree about Mikal. He's not perfect at it, because his intent is rarely to break down and tilt a defense, but he could run PnR.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#673 » by Context » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:23 pm

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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#674 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:24 pm

Fury wrote:
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GONYK wrote:
They got that for 8 mins straight yesterday and the tears almost flooded out the game thread :lol:

KAT is phenomenal, and a walking mismatch, but you can't run the offense through him because he's not a creator.

You can put him in advantageous situations, but you need a PG for that. Thank God we have an elite one.



Well its not ideal when Cam Payne is hijacking your offense. I still contend Mikal should be running the offense when Brunson goes to the bench.


And bringing up the ball more with Brunson on the court


Both are the truth. I don't understand how they leave Brunson to bring the ball up against sthe full court press almost every play. Have other players like Mikal/Hart help get the ball up court. Push the pace more. We slow roll the offense and barely beat the 8 second clock every play.

I was also annoyed watching Payne yesterday. Thibs has no creativity at all.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#675 » by Enzo954 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:24 pm

Guano wrote:Well ackchyually we won cause OG clamped cade on 2 middies but everyone is so enamored by offense they overlook the greatest defensive player of all time.
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IMO Cade has some great looks on the last couple shots he took. I mean sure, OG prevented him from getting to the rim, but Cade made some nice step back moves to get himself open and just simply missed. Maybe my memory is off, but that's what I recall happening.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#676 » by GONYK » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:26 pm

LFGK wrote:
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Everything you said is true. But they don’t like Jalen anymore. He’s selfish. They want the offense to run through Kat now.


They got that for 8 mins straight yesterday and the tears almost flooded out the game thread :lol:

KAT is phenomenal, and a walking mismatch, but you can't run the offense through him because he's not a creator.

You can put him in advantageous situations, but you need a PG for that. Thank God we have an elite one.


every single play with him at the top of the key is an advantageous situation man, he has guys on him that can not defend him, This is a great problem to have


It is but letting him drive from the top of the key is not going to produce consistently great outcomes because he doesn't pass out of drives, so the defense adjusts and just packs the paint after a while. We saw this yesterday.

If Jalen and KAT are our 1-2 punch, Jalen is definitely the 1. He's also the hook to the liver that finishes the fight.
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#677 » by Context » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:26 pm

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Too bad the fans dont appreciate him. I’ve seen it with Ewing, I’ve seen it with Melo and now Brunson. It never fails. Sad.

its definitely sad but you know what Sham...I wont waste thoughts on them -I rather enjoy watching Brunson quiet all of those types on the opposite side...
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#679 » by Context » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:28 pm

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Guano wrote:Well ackchyually we won cause OG clamped cade on 2 middies but everyone is so enamored by offense they overlook the greatest defensive player of all time.
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OG should get some version of the game ball for handling Shroeder's illegal screens like this:

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This is interesting...I saw the clip were OG essentially said he got something for this- so he can move Scrotum like this and wont get called for a foul?
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Re: PG: Saved By The KAT 

Post#680 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:31 pm

GONYK wrote:
Guano wrote:Well ackchyually we won cause OG clamped cade on 2 middies but everyone is so enamored by offense they overlook the greatest defensive player of all time.
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OG should get some version of the game ball for handling Shroeder's illegal screens like this:

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Tossed him aside like yesterday's trash. Love that play.
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