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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#41 » by JustBuzzin » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:50 am

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JustBuzzin wrote:Welp with Dame likely having a torn Achilles likely means Giannis will be available this off-season. That roster is cooked with no Dame.

Trying to find a way to get Giannis to Charlotte without trading LaMelo and Miller. The best I can come up with assumption we get the #2 pick. Otherwise we just draft Flagg.

#2 pick/Bridges/Mark/Grant/3 future 1st for Giannis.

Gives them a young player to start the rebuild in Dylan Harper and a young center in Mark Williams. They also get 3 of our 1st round picks. I threw Bridges and Grant in as salary fillers neither are long term contracts for Milwaukee.


Leaves us with

LaMelo
Miller
Okagie
Giannis
Nurkic

that completely kneecaps our ability to build a team around those 3. If we got pick #2, i can't see us trading that AND 3 1sts AND Mark AND Bridges for one player. Having to include Okogie and Nurk in our starting five due to lack of better options is the exact reason we cannot do this.
Yeah never said it was realistic lol

Just saying we would have to offer something crazy like this to even get in the conversation. Not sure Giannis would ever consider Charlotte anyway.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#42 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:05 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
HornetJail wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Welp with Dame likely having a torn Achilles likely means Giannis will be available this off-season. That roster is cooked with no Dame.

Trying to find a way to get Giannis to Charlotte without trading LaMelo and Miller. The best I can come up with assumption we get the #2 pick. Otherwise we just draft Flagg.

#2 pick/Bridges/Mark/Grant/3 future 1st for Giannis.

Gives them a young player to start the rebuild in Dylan Harper and a young center in Mark Williams. They also get 3 of our 1st round picks. I threw Bridges and Grant in as salary fillers neither are long term contracts for Milwaukee.


Leaves us with

LaMelo
Miller
Okagie
Giannis
Nurkic

that completely kneecaps our ability to build a team around those 3. If we got pick #2, i can't see us trading that AND 3 1sts AND Mark AND Bridges for one player. Having to include Okogie and Nurk in our starting five due to lack of better options is the exact reason we cannot do this.
Yeah never said it was realistic lol

Just saying we would have to offer something crazy like this to even get in the conversation. Not sure Giannis would ever consider Charlotte anyway.


And we would win 31 games with literally no future other than aging Giannis
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#43 » by KingCat » Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:41 am

Giannis is amazing but his play style and him being north of 30 scares me. I'd be shocked if his game ages with any grace
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#44 » by HornetJail » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:28 pm

KingCat wrote:Giannis is amazing but his play style and him being north of 30 scares me. I'd be shocked if his game ages with any grace

this is the biggest thing for me. being 30 isn't really the issue, it's that he has major mileage on him already (already 24th among active players in total minutes, ahead of guys like Klay Thompson, DeAndre Jordan, Kevin Love, Kyrie...) and most of those minutes are spent charging full force at the rim and doing long ass eurosteps that would be murder on basically anyone else's knees

I'd trade quite a bit for him, he'll be good for a long time just based on his size and skill alone, but we have to be able to build a team. And Giannis isn't a Jokic or Luka type where he's carrying a supporting cast with several D-League level players in its rotation to the ECF.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#45 » by Rich4114 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 3:46 pm

I'd love to enter the Giannis sweepstakes, but possibly the best thing about him becoming available is it takes one team out of the trade running for our other targets like Zion/Sabonis.

That said, I'd happily part with 3 future picks, MB, etc. for Giannis. But yeah, #2 in this draft won't be on the table.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#46 » by MasterIchiro » Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:29 pm

Rich4114 wrote:I'd love to enter the Giannis sweepstakes, but possibly the best thing about him becoming available is it takes one team out of the trade running for our other targets like Zion/Sabonis.

That said, I'd happily part with 3 future picks, MB, etc. for Giannis. But yeah, #2 in this draft won't be on the table.


Yeah #2 won't be on the table from
any team
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#47 » by JMAC3 » Mon Apr 28, 2025 4:32 pm

I would easily trade #2 for Giannis. He is a top 3 player in the world, elite on both ends.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#48 » by JustBuzzin » Mon Apr 28, 2025 6:47 pm

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KingCat wrote:Giannis is amazing but his play style and him being north of 30 scares me. I'd be shocked if his game ages with any grace

this is the biggest thing for me. being 30 isn't really the issue, it's that he has major mileage on him already (already 24th among active players in total minutes, ahead of guys like Klay Thompson, DeAndre Jordan, Kevin Love, Kyrie...) and most of those minutes are spent charging full force at the rim and doing long ass eurosteps that would be murder on basically anyone else's knees

I'd trade quite a bit for him, he'll be good for a long time just based on his size and skill alone, but we have to be able to build a team. And Giannis isn't a Jokic or Luka type where he's carrying a supporting cast with several D-League level players in its rotation to the ECF.

Both Jokic and Luka are in danger of losing in the 1st Rd. This idea players can lead a team by themselves is crazy. Even LeBron had to leave Cleveland to get talent around him.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#49 » by LofJ » Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:43 pm

Giannis is one of the few players you could convince me to move LaMelo for. The question is what Milwaukee would want on top of that. They'd probably ask for Miller or the 2025 pick but that would be too much for me. LaMelo and 3 firsts and hope no one else matches that.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#50 » by Bassman » Mon Apr 28, 2025 7:56 pm

IF Giannis would actually be traded here they’d want Melo, our #1 overall pick (Flagg) and future firsts +. No way it happens in any form.

Giannis Is the kind of mega deal that a near championship team goes for.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#51 » by EmpireFalls » Mon Apr 28, 2025 8:43 pm

We’re not getting Giannis to come to Charlotte yall
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#52 » by KingCat » Tue Apr 29, 2025 12:46 pm

Bam has the be available. In a world where we luck our way into Flagg or take a swing on Bailey, I don't see a fit for him here.

If we end up with a guard like VJ, Fears, Harper, then I'd see a good reason to pursue.

I imagine offering Miami their 27 pick back would be enticing. And then what else? Definitely wouldn't give up Miller or Melo for him. Probably won't be interested in Bridges in a rebuild scenario.

27 pick/future first top 5 protect/Salaun/NSjr/Grant for Bam/Highsmith

Williams/Bam/Miles/Miller/Melo?

Maybe look to ship Williams for a better fit next to Bam in this scenario.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#53 » by HornetJail » Tue Apr 29, 2025 2:20 pm

KingCat wrote:Bam has the be available. In a world where we luck our way into Flagg or take a swing on Bailey, I don't see a fit for him here.

If we end up with a guard like VJ, Fears, Harper, then I'd see a good reason to pursue.

I imagine offering Miami their 27 pick back would be enticing. And then what else? Definitely wouldn't give up Miller of Melo for him. Probably won't be interested in Bridges in a rebuild scenario.

27 pick/future first top 5 protect/Salaun/NSjr/Grant for Bam/Highsmith

Williams/Bam/Miles/Miller/Melo?

Maybe look to ship Williams for a better fit next to Bam in this scenario.

i like this a lot more with Miles swapped out for a more perimeter oriented playmaker, or even just being our 6th man
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#54 » by JMAC3 » Tue Apr 29, 2025 5:59 pm

Giannis is going for a god offer from either Houston or OKC.
Something like JDub/Chet, Topic plus 3 firsts.

We don't have the firepower to trade for him, nor the team around him post trade to win anything.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#55 » by MasterIchiro » Wed Apr 30, 2025 8:58 am

Bam should be the target, and he does fit as a 4 alongside Mark Williams at the 5.

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Nurkic + Josh Green for matching.

We keep Miles since we surrender over half available first round draft capital.

But Bam and his defense make us a serious team. Draft capital is meant to improve teams via draft or trade. Bam would be surrounded by Hornets draft picks.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#56 » by Diop » Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:03 am

i highly doubt Bam is getting traded.

they will rebuild around Bam and Herro
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#57 » by amcoolio » Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:33 pm

LofJ wrote:Giannis is one of the few players you could convince me to move LaMelo for. The question is what Milwaukee would want on top of that. They'd probably ask for Miller or the 2025 pick but that would be too much for me. LaMelo and 3 firsts and hope no one else matches that.


If we win Flagg they can have the entire roster and draft chest. As long as we have Flagg and Giannis its way way better than anything we've done the last 20 years.

I agree he'll either stay or go to OKC for one of Chet/JDub and 20 picks though.

Only thing we can do is hope we win Flagg...that's pretty much it. I don't think this team has it in them to have a Detroit turnaround.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#58 » by fatlever » Wed Apr 30, 2025 6:57 pm

sga/giannis core Would be insane. Those two would need a lot of shooters around them. You would almost need to retool the entire roster.. assuming in the process they lost Jalen and chet, plus picks... What would be your next moves to build an immediate contender full of win now role players next to those two.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#59 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Apr 30, 2025 9:22 pm

Diop wrote:i highly doubt Bam is getting traded.

they will rebuild around Bam and Herro

Bam/Herro just got swept pretty easily by the Celtics. That duo is not taking them anywhere long-term.

I think Bam can be had for the right price. He's definitely someone I would have interest in this off-season.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#60 » by Diop » Wed Apr 30, 2025 11:41 pm

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Diop wrote:i highly doubt Bam is getting traded.

they will rebuild around Bam and Herro

Bam/Herro just got swept pretty easily by the Celtics. That duo is not taking them anywhere long-term.

I think Bam can be had for the right price. He's definitely someone I would have interest in this off-season.

Maybe if Riley steps down and they get a GM who wants to tank, but I really doubt it. Bam is their guy
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